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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21454766 - 03/25/15 08:49 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Nope, light and FAE. So to fruit it pull the tape off stuff with poly, tight on bottom loose on top.

You want straw, not hay. But I would advise against it untill you get a better grip on things. Straw needs to be pasturized, so if you use it in your substrate you have to pasturize it the proper way where coir is much much more forgiving.
Straw is also a trich magnet!

You need to be able to make clean grain spawn, thats what you should be focusing on. Learn to work with agar, learn to get clean spawn. Then a few bad ass harvests down the road try changing up the substrate

Thats all I work with right now, coir-verm-gypsum. If you can make clean spawn you can pull a great yeild off most substrates


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: mushpunx]
    #21454912 - 03/25/15 09:30 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I hear you brother. I need to get my shit straight before I tackle other things. I have a very stressful job so it helps that I have a hobby I can put my efforts to. That's why I have engulfed myself in this. But of course I love it too.

I'm going to case one and leave one plain, unless you feel strongly that I'm not ready for it or I should just wait until next time..

Do you suggest 1/2 or 1/4 inch of casing?

Also If I do a peat/verm casing will the myc colonize the entire casing?

I was just going to pasteurize with the bucket tek. Is that cool.


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21456119 - 03/25/15 03:32 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

If we're being totally honest I've been growing for like 7-8 years now and I've only ever cased one tub and I don't even think I did it correctly.  I don't think it's necessary if your conditions are good.

May as well forget about it, since casing can trap contam spores against the surface of the sub and give them the chance to germinate if you're not super careful.


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21456278 - 03/25/15 04:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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I hear you brother. I need to get my shit straight before I tackle other things. I have a very stressful job so it helps that I have a hobby I can put my efforts to. That's why I have engulfed myself in this. But of course I love it too.

I'm going to case one and leave one plain, unless you feel strongly that I'm not ready for it or I should just wait until next time..

Do you suggest 1/2 or 1/4 inch of casing?

Also If I do a peat/verm casing will the myc colonize the entire casing?

I was just going to pasteurize with the bucket tek. Is that cool.





I do a 3/4 inch casing, its just my preference. Traditionally you want to case, then let it colonize for a few days untill you see some myc poking up in like 20% of the casing layer, then fruit.

  Bucket tek isnt a proper pasturization, its meant for coir which really just needs to be heat treated.

Its my understamding its best to pasturize peat based casings, so either pasturize properly on the stove or at least sterilize it in a PC cycle.


I say just fruit your tubs as is


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: mushpunx]
    #21456927 - 03/25/15 06:38 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, that sounds convincing. If it is more likely to cause contams then fuck it sideways man. I'll try it after these two. But Mush, if you usually do it do you find that it helps your grow as opposed to when you don't do it?

Im really on the fence about casing just one of them and seeing what happens.

Fuck it, I have other things I can case. I'll put to fruit and take pics in a day or two. At least I'm starting to get pins on my cakes! Fuck yeah Bro.

I can't wait to make prints. I've never used a print. This is uncharted territory for me.

I'll let you know how the fruiting goes tonight.


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21456979 - 03/25/15 06:46 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

2 Small issues. One of my tubs is a little big so I put 6 holes on bottom and 2 on top. Should I still do all tight on bottom and loose on top or how do I mix it up?

Also, one of them looks dry compared to the other. Real dry. I'm thinking I should case or mist it fairly good. What do you guys think for a dry tub, mist or case?


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21457020 - 03/25/15 06:56 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Why do you say it looks dry? Is the tub light? Got a good photo?

Thats awesome about the cakes! Watch lets grow mushrooms through again and take real clean prints.


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: mushpunx]
    #21457145 - 03/25/15 07:26 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I set one to fruit. The other I'm not sure about. I say its dry because one tub had moisture dripping off of the sides, the top and I could see visible moisture droplets on the myc. The other one has no moisture on the sides or top or myc or anywhere. I deduce this to be as dry as a 90 year old twat. What's your assessment?


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21457259 - 03/25/15 07:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hard to tell with out a pic. Its fully colonized yea?

Did you check fir field capacity in your subatrate?

Might be ok man post a pic


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: mushpunx]
    #21457290 - 03/25/15 07:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Its the same one as yesterday. Check the pic. If you want one from today I'll do another.









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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21457337 - 03/25/15 08:02 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yea it could have more condensation but it looks ok to me :shrug:

Just fruit it, mist a little bit if you really think it needs it


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: mushpunx]
    #21457381 - 03/25/15 08:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Consider it done. How long should my agar plates take to show signs of growth. Its been two days and one of them started showing a white spot after 24 hours. The rest have nothing and its been 48 hours. How long do these plates take?


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21458766 - 03/26/15 05:26 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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Consider it done. How long should my agar plates take to show signs of growth. Its been two days and one of them started showing a white spot after 24 hours. The rest have nothing and its been 48 hours. How long do these plates take?




It really depends on what you put on them.  24 hours is really quick for anything but not unheard of.  48 hours is still nothing.


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21459611 - 03/26/15 08:47 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

^ What van said!

Usually my plates so germination in about 4 or 5 days. I know you said you still had LC, is this a plate started from spores or LC?


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: mushpunx]
    #21460017 - 03/26/15 10:19 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

It was started with LC. Im testing the LC's that I made. If there good I might try using them. When there gone I will stay with agar full time.


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21461072 - 03/26/15 03:15 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

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It was started with LC. Im testing the LC's that I made. If there good I might try using them. When there gone I will stay with agar full time.





If its LC then yea youll probably see growth sooner

I dont know how LC shows up on agar, how will you decide if its clean or not?


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: mushpunx]
    #21462130 - 03/26/15 06:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

If its green it not clean. That's about it.

I checked them tonight and they are all still the same except the one white spot got a little bigger and one other one has this white stuff on it. It literally looks like white blood veins across the top of the agar. No idea what it is unless its the LC. What kind of contam looks like little lightening bolts or veins across agar???


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mushenstein]
    #21462197 - 03/26/15 06:54 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Contamination on agar is rarely green, I think Ive only had a single green spot ever out of hundreds of plates, contamination usually takes the form of bacteria/slimey looking spots or white mold "colonies" etc

Could be your LC growing out I dunno without pics :shrug:


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: mushpunx]
    #21462276 - 03/26/15 07:21 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Lol since I've started up again just recently I'm not exactly at tub stage but I can say while making agar dishes (10ish transfers a week, 3 weeks in) I've seen green trich and bacteria twice on my initial plates. Since I've used a SAB and transferred from the contams I've seen no contamination since :laugh:. Don't even use tyvek sleeves(would love to, just stupid to find in Canada). Just a clean long sleeve shirt, a shower and brush my teeth with sterile gloves. I just started drying horse manure on a tarp and plan to pasteurize properly. Don't want to cut corners anymore. Last time I had a lot more contamination.

If you have bone dry poo, hydrated properly and pasteurized in jars or bags, I don't see why we will mess up anymore.


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Re: And on the 8th day god made Trich!!! [Re: Mad Season]
    #21462791 - 03/26/15 09:34 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I have no idea what I'm doing, I'm just doing it. With a little instruction from you of course. I have been doing G2G tonight, and I felt like experimenting so I knocked up a jar of sludge shit I threw together with one of my LC's. Just experimenting.

I had a G2G I did 3 days ago stall, and the others are doing fine, 4 in total. All same species all same grain and all same type transfers into same size jars. Why would one shit the bed for no good fucking reason???

Also my tubs are fruiting, but I was doing some leisure reading tonight on the Shoomery and found a few threads that say PE is very difficult to work with. I had no idea. My tubs are PE and PESA. How much tougher are they to grow?

I just got them because they look like dicks. Not that I like dick. I'm married. But I like the dick look. Maybe I do like dicks and was not aware? Its probably just because I have a dick and I associate with dick looking mushrooms, oh no, that's right, I got them because I read they are a lot more potent. Had nothing to do with liking dicks. Anyways, how hard are these fuckers to grow?


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