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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: Shroomism]
#21462253 - 03/26/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah the fact that they mentioned specific flavors but not the compostion of the flavors was the hint that this is some bs.
half of the food grade flavorings available are harmful to vape. luckily, MOST intelligent juice manufacturers don't use them.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: ModestMouse]
#21462511 - 03/26/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Alright, just wanted to let you guys know that I went to the vaporfi store today, and couldn't be more impressed.
Super professional. All their juices are food grade, and apparently the best in the business concerning health as far as big vape companies.
They actually have a tasting bar where they'll load up a pen with whichever flavor you want (you can mix up to 3 together) as well as the nicotine concentration you want, and also the PG/VG ratio you want. I'm in awe with their customer service.
I ended up spending 75 bucks for the vape, upgraded battery, and larger tank. And he threwh me a free leather case. 2 18mg nicotine juice (containers) with a subtle mango/lime flavoring. 1 at 70VG/30PG and the other at 50/50. Great deal as far as I can tell.
Again, I couldn't be more impressed by this place. It was like an Apple store for e-cigs.
Thank you Shroomslip for all the information beforehand. You're a class act. 
And today was the last day Kroniko smoked a cigarette for the rest of my life. I'm ecstatic.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: kr0nik0]
#21462551 - 03/26/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Always happy to help someone kick the cigs.
Now I just gotta do it again 
I picked up a pack the night I knew I was gonna lose my job (week ago maybe?) and have been a pack a day smoker again since. Was off them for almost a year, too. I'm really setting the bar for myself, trying to kick two bad habits.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: kr0nik0]
#21462560 - 03/26/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ooooh, you got the Istick didn't you? If not what setup are you running?
I love the juice bars. I just go in with a friend and roll through the flavors on a dull day. It's always fun to find something new and tasty.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: ModestMouse]
#21462598 - 03/26/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm not sure what the lstick is.
This is exactly what I got: http://www.vaporfi.com/electronic-cigarettes/vaporfi-pro-starter-kit.html
The only difference is that my tank is clear all around since I upgraded to the bigger size. Also the battery is bigger since it's more powerful. The next step up from 650 (not quite sure).
I forgot the box in my car that has all the details on the battery and tank. I'll head downstairs in a bit to give you the full details on my setup.
I forgot to mention they also threw in 5 extra atomizers for free.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: kr0nik0]
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kr0nik0 said: I'm not sure what the lstick is.
This is exactly what I got: http://www.vaporfi.com/electronic-cigarettes/vaporfi-pro-starter-kit.html
The only difference is that my tank is clear all around since I upgraded to the bigger size. Also the battery is bigger since it's more powerful. The next step up from 650 (not quite sure).
I forgot the box in my car that has all the details on the battery and tank. I'll head downstairs in a bit to give you the full details on my setup.
I forgot to mention they also threw in 5 extra atomizers for free.
You got ripped. That thing for 50? 650 mah? 3.7 volt?
Thats technology from like 3 to 4 years ago that should cost ~10 dollars from a legitimate source. How much "more powerful" is yours?
Should have done some more research, you could have gotten a much better vape for your money.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: propensity]
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: propensity]
#21463852 - 03/27/15 12:43 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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propensity said:
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kr0nik0 said: I'm not sure what the lstick is.
This is exactly what I got: http://www.vaporfi.com/electronic-cigarettes/vaporfi-pro-starter-kit.html
The only difference is that my tank is clear all around since I upgraded to the bigger size. Also the battery is bigger since it's more powerful. The next step up from 650 (not quite sure).
I forgot the box in my car that has all the details on the battery and tank. I'll head downstairs in a bit to give you the full details on my setup.
I forgot to mention they also threw in 5 extra atomizers for free.
You got ripped. That thing for 50? 650 mah? 3.7 volt?
Thats technology from like 3 to 4 years ago that should cost ~10 dollars from a legitimate source. How much "more powerful" is yours?
Should have done some more research, you could have gotten a much better vape for your money.
I just went off of reviews online, and this one seemed to be in the top 3 for starter kits. I didn't dig in too much into my research, but I'm really enjoying it.
It ended up being a lot cheaper at the store than online. It was $50 bucks (plus the e-juice) and it came with the upgraded/bigger 2.5ml full pyrex tank and upgraded 1000 mAH battery. As well as the extra atomizers and really nice leather case.
Did I really get ripped off? I'm a complete noob to vaping unfortunately and I might of jumped the gun.
Which e-cig would you have recommended in the $50 range if I hadn't bought one already?
Edit: The upgraded battery also has an adjustable range from 3.2v to 4.8v
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: kr0nik0]
#21463944 - 03/27/15 01:31 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah man sorry to say but you got ripped. It's cool that they threw in an upgraded 1000mAh battery and ejuice and a case though. But all those supplies probably cost them $15 from China. It's cool though... we pretty much all got ripped off from brick and mortars when we first started. I also paid around $50 for a shitty ass ego vape setup, that thing lasted me all of two weeks before I got sick of it and upgraded.
Those pen style vapes, you will find... basically suck. But that's generally what everyone starts on. If you had asked me earlier I would have told you to start out with an MVP 2.0 or an iStick30 or similar. $35 online. variable voltage and wattage, comes with a halfway decent clearomizer, 2600 mAh battery. (edit: actually I lied.. it looks they aren't shipping those with a clearomizer or atomizer anymore.. that's kind of bunk.. but a good one can be had for ~$10-$20.)
We have a user forum dedicated to ecigs.. come check it out and if you have questions or anything post in there, everyone is very helpful and will help you out - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/236/page/0
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: Shroomism]
#21463958 - 03/27/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Right on. Thanks for the information and link to the e-cig board. Like I said, I've been enjoying it so far today.
Even if I give up on this vape in a couple weeks because I end up not getting what I want of it, it will have already paid for itself due to not spending any money on real cigs in that time.
If/when I get tired of it I'll without a doubt try the MVP. Appreciate the suggestion.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: kr0nik0] 1
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But props on taking the first step and kicking cigarettes. Vaping is no doubt a much safer alternative, you still get your nicotine fix and that satisfaction of inhaling something, without all the harmful and cancer-causing chemicals. And the beauty is you can lower your nicotine level down over time. For most of us, vaping turns into a hobby. But as long as it gets you off the cancer sticks, it's doing its job.
I smoked cigarettes for over 17 years, over a pack a day. I started vaping and quit cigarettes the same day. My lungs/cardio and overall health has improved drastically since. And yes its a great way to save money. I was spending ~$350+ a month on cigarettes. When I switched to vaping I was spending maybe $40-50 a month on ejuice. Now I make my own juice and prices have plummeted to ridiculous levels. Plus I know EXACTLY what goes into the juice.
Cigarettes are a worthless and harmful addiction.. Vaping is a lifestyle/fun hobby. And vaping saves lives.
Plus nicotine itself, in the extremely small quantities you get from vaping, isn't really that harmful to you, and has many known health benefits. It's all the other shit in cigarettes that kills you. (tar, carbon monoxide, benzene, arsenic, formaldehyde.. the list goes on and on).
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: Shroomism]
#21463992 - 03/27/15 02:12 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thank you for the support. I had been smoking a pack a day (up to 2 packs a day if I drank heavily) for close to 12 years. Aside from the money saved, I can't wait for the health benefits to kick in.
I can't even imagine what it's going to be like to have a normal sense of taste and smell back. I'm already fairly active working out, but I can only imagine how much more stamina I'll have. Better teeth/breath, I won't smell like an ashtray all the time. The advantages seem to be almost endless.
I can definitely see it becoming a very intriguing hobby. I'm already fascinated by this really simple e-cig that I purchased and can't wait until I can start building my own mechanical mods.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: kr0nik0]
#21464015 - 03/27/15 02:31 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes.. you should start to notice your sense of smell and taste start to come back strong within a few days to a week. I noticed vast improvements to my cardio within a few weeks.
And Yep.. no more smelling like an ashtray. It's great being able to vape in your car and not burn holes in your seat and carpet and shit and have ash everywhere. I purchased a new car right when I started vaping and it was great. It still smells new a year and a half or so later. Or vape in your house/room and not stain the walls yellow and have your whole house smell like an ashtray. I'm even allowed to vape at my desk at work, even the non-smokers don't mind it at all and they usually try and guess what lovely flavor I'm vaping. They actually like it.
Mechanical mods aren't really for everyone. You might want to look into a nice regulated box mod like the Sigelei 100w next if you want to take things to the next level. I just went from mechanical mods to a Sigelei 150w and I couldn't be any happier. My mech mods will be collecting dust.
It is super nice being able to build your own coils and wicks though. You save a ton of money there too. That's why I started on rebuildable atomizers, I was sick of buying new coils all the time. I spend $7 on a spool of wire, $5 on some organic cotton, and I have enough coils and wicks to last me for a year easy. Plus you get much higher vapor output on rebuildables, depending what ohms you are running at. Once you switch to a dripper you will have to drop your nicotine levels way down. I went from 18mg to 6mg on a dripper. Probably going to drop down to 3mg soon.
Here's my sigelei 150w at 150watts.. running on 0.3ohm coils. I don't vape it at that high though.. I vape around 40watts, I don't like my vapor super hot. But this thing chucks the vapor like a madman.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: Shroomism]
#21464027 - 03/27/15 02:42 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Yeah man sorry to say but you got ripped. It's cool that they threw in an upgraded 1000mAh battery and ejuice and a case though. But all those supplies probably cost them $15 from China. It's cool though... we pretty much all got ripped off from brick and mortars when we first started. I also paid around $50 for a shitty ass ego vape setup, that thing lasted me all of two weeks before I got sick of it and upgraded.
Those pen style vapes, you will find... basically suck. But that's generally what everyone starts on. If you had asked me earlier I would have told you to start out with an MVP 2.0 or an iStick30 or similar. $35 online. variable voltage and wattage, comes with a halfway decent clearomizer, 2600 mAh battery. (edit: actually I lied.. it looks they aren't shipping those with a clearomizer or atomizer anymore.. that's kind of bunk.. but a good one can be had for ~$10-$20.)
We have a user forum dedicated to ecigs.. come check it out and if you have questions or anything post in there, everyone is very helpful and will help you out - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Cat/0/Board/236/page/0
I knew you'd come in and spew the information for me if I waited long enough haha.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: propensity]
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0116732
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Oxidative stress and inflammatory response are the key events in the pathogenesis of chronic airway diseases. The consumption of electronic cigarettes (e-cigs) with a variety of e-liquids/e-juices is alarmingly increasing without the unrealized potential harmful health effects. We hypothesized that electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS)/e-cigs pose health concerns due to oxidative toxicity and inflammatory response in lung cells exposed to their aerosols. The aerosols produced by vaporizing ENDS e-liquids exhibit oxidant reactivity suggesting oxidants or reactive oxygen species (OX/ROS) may be inhaled directly into the lung during a “vaping” session. These OX/ROS are generated through activation of the heating element which is affected by heating element status (new versus used), and occurs during the process of e-liquid vaporization. Unvaporized e-liquids were oxidative in a manner dependent on flavor additives, while flavors containing sweet or fruit flavors were stronger oxidizers than tobacco flavors. In light of OX/ROS generated in ENDS e-liquids and aerosols, the effects of ENDS aerosols on tissues and cells of the lung were measured. Exposure of human airway epithelial cells (H292) in an air-liquid interface to ENDS aerosols from a popular device resulted in increased secretion of inflammatory cytokines, such as IL-6 and IL-8. Furthermore, human lung fibroblasts exhibited stress and morphological change in response to treatment with ENDS/e-liquids. These cells also secrete increased IL-8 in response to a cinnamon flavored e-liquid and are susceptible to loss of cell viability by ENDS e-liquids. Finally, exposure of wild type C57BL/6J mice to aerosols produced from a popular e-cig increase pro-inflammatory cytokines and diminished lung glutathione levels which are critical in maintaining cellular redox balance. Thus, exposure to e-cig aerosols/juices incurs measurable oxidative and inflammatory responses in lung cells and tissues that could lead to unrealized health consequences.
Just when I was thinking about switching back....
Oxidative stress: reflects an imbalance between the systemic manifestation of reactive oxygen species and a biological system's ability to readily detoxify the reactive intermediates or to repair the resulting damage.
ROS - Reatice oxygen species http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactive_oxygen_species OX - Oxidate dianion http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/glutathione
With that information ... all in all, you smoke a cigarette after an e cig or smoke some crank or something equally stupid, it will just be more carcinogenic than before hand without e vapor. Or in hazardous air region. L.A. etc
also before any of this. I got hooked to cigarettes worse because of e cigarettes. Higher dose of nicotine and I was vaping all the time.
I could feel it in my lungs. Reminded me of Pulmonary Edema.. I came to my own conclusion awhile back that smokeing is bad enough. Now im putting fucking water in my lungs. Great cool, slowly drowning over here.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: WhyDidiDoThis]
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OP, that's why I vape unflavored. I know all I'm inhaling is pg, vg, and nicotine
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: luvdemboomers] 1
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So many naysayers in the Pub

Why not just live and let live
Vaping keeps me off the crapsticks so even if it stresses out my lungs who gives a shit?! Cigarettes did the same thing on a far more destructive scale
All I know is I can run hard as fuck again my lung capacity has significantly increased since I made the switch my lungs literally feel better than they have in years and I don't crave cigarettes at all anymore not even around other smokers
And it wouldn't have happened without vaping I'd still be hooked on those shitty stinky things because cold turkey NEVER worked for me for any significant period of time.. vaping does
If you don't like it that's fine just don't talk shit on it until you've done the research and know the facts being that it is definitely magnitudes safer than the analogs and MORE FUN!
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: Herbologist]
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Herbologist said: Where is Shroomism to chime in on this?
He'll probably say the studies are BS because he wants to think their BS.
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Re: E-cigs with flavorings induce Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, and Inflammatory Response in Lung [Re: setb] 1
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Perhaps, I don't know... try reading the thread before making assumptions? Maybe you'd care to take a look through all the posted links and videos and tell me they are BS.
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Shroomism said: What flavorings were used and from where? That's my number one question. It's already well known in the ejuice community that certain flavors are NOT suitable for vaping as well as flavors from certain manufacturers, and will have questionable or unknown health effects. Also, some of these studies in the past have used Chinese made e-juice, which is well known to be extremely questionable and have been proven to be contaminated in many cases. The case with cinnamon flavoring is already well known, and most vendors have stopped carrying cinnamon flavoring, or switched to a different formula. Also many custard notes contain trace amounts of diacetyl. Even though it only trace amounts, it is not safe to be vaping diacetyl and could have health risks. Responsible vendors will not use these flavorings. And responsible flavoring companies that know their flavors are being used for vaping will publish their GC/MS data for each flavor. Also, these are studies on rats, not humans.
As always, know your sources.
It's not 100% proven that vaping is completely non-harmful. But what we do know, is that vaping in 99% of cases, is easily MUCH less toxic than smoking cigarettes and a MUCH safer alternative.
http://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/10/10/5146/pdf http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/04/study-confirms-that-e-cigarettes-generat http://ecigarettereviewed.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Research-on-Safety-of-Electronic-Cigarettes-Dr.-Konstantinos-Farsalinos-E-Cigarette-Summit.pdf http://mnvapers.com/2014/04/epa-fda-vapor-harmless-children/ http://www.news-medical.net/news/20091104/Propylene-glycol-in-e-cigarettes-might-keep-us-healthy-says-researchers.aspx http://www.healthnz.co.nz/ECigsExhaledSmoke.htm http://spo.escardio.org/eslides/view.aspx?eevtid=54&fp=1375 http://publichealth.drexel.edu/~/media/Files/publichealth/ms08.ashx www.escardio.org/about/press/press-releases/esc12-munich/Pages/acute-effects-electronic-cigarettes-heart-damage.aspx http://www.spectator.co.uk/health/features-health/cover-feature/9442271/e-cigarettes-save-lives/ http://www.clivebates.com/documents/vapebriefing.pdf http://www.hscic.gov.uk/catalogue/PUB16076/HSE2013-Ch8-adult-cig-smo.pdf
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