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    #21450713 - 03/24/15 11:11 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Hi all, so I need some help mostly because of my inexperience. I've been working at getting some grows under my belt and after some trial n error I'm almost there...



Here is my fruiting chamber. I let the cool most run 24/7 while the ultrasonic comes on for 5 minutes every 3 hours... Being this is my first grow, I'm not entirely sure how to correctly dial this thing in. As you can see in the picture there's moisture build up on most surfaces of the tent, the fruiting beds even have some droplets showing across the top. I have no clue if this is okay or not, my hygrometer does say the rh is at about 95% though. Can anyone give me a nudge in the right direction? Or am I doing alright so far.

I also recently posted these pictures with not a whole lot of feedback received and kind of need some help with this too. All of these casings pictures were taken the night before last and there hasn't been a noticeable difference at all really. Today would be day 8, they kind of seem to have stalled for some reason and I'm not too sure why.


Again, any help is appreciated! Thank you :laugh:

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21450869 - 03/24/15 11:50 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Id recommend going PF cakes and a SGFC for your first grow it will help you learn a lot about the life cycle of fungi before you jump into tubs. 

Your hygrometer needs to be calibrated weekly and don't rely on droplets as to being enough moisture.

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21450890 - 03/24/15 11:55 AM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Dude, just simplify that a ton. Build a simple SGFC, throw together some PF cakes. I dont even use a hygrometer and I get pretty great yields. However, I am moving up to doing trays for more surface area for the mushies to develop on. I would build a SGFC, make some PF cakes, let em colonize until fully consolidated, pop them babies out into a cold water dunk over night, take em out roll em in dry verm, then put them in the SGFC and enjoy the fruits of your labor..Once you get it zoned in, it becomes apparent that this is the easiest way to get these beauties.

Also, I wont simply leave you by saying to change your set up. The reason the mycellium may have stalled due to contaminations being present and competing with the mycellium. I would give it a while longer too, it could improve with time but if you dont want to hope for the best and go with it. Just make more cakes, trays, whatever it is you do so you dont have to depend on those that are stalled.

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: EntheoGod]
    #21450938 - 03/24/15 12:05 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

:whathesaid: I lay my cakes on the sides (I think it offers more surface area exposed) PF in a SGFC with a spray bottle for noobs is the way to go. Me being a noob hasn't had any real problems other than 2 out of 26 jars came dirty and the syringes were tossed out.

I think your just in over your head mane.... I know this isn't what you want to hear.

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: 2shoes]
    #21451032 - 03/24/15 12:31 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Yea I hear you guys.. I Guess my overzealous and overly excited side got the best of me and so I just dove in head first. I deffinantly agree and I already have like 15 cakes that should be ready within the next week or so and also another 10 to 20 for the week after that.. I'll deffinantly start there before I start dealing with all of this stuff again. Hopefully I get to see something from what I've done here though.... As for the water droplets I just didn't know if this was bad to have on my casings. It's hard for me to tell if there is such thing as too much moisture.

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21451071 - 03/24/15 12:42 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Keep your head up! This whole thing is definitely a learning process. I screwed up tons when I first started doing this thing. Now I have a method down that works perfect FOR ME every time. Keep in mind while growing you are trying to simulate the environment it naturally grows in. If you can read more about where it normally grows you will be better able to get a FEEL for how to do this instead of just reading and going by the book. Understand that some things are meant to be done by the book like the recipe and the sgfc. I remember being all new on here and not knowing what to do and I started by building this custom sgfc and it was horrible. no light was getting to it, the humidifier was INSIDE the fruiting chamber and I had zero fresh air exchange. I learned immediately and the one piece of advice I can give you is that was given to me once, dont try to re invent the wheel. If something works stick with it unless you know for sure it can be done better. Good luck!

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: EntheoGod]
    #21451098 - 03/24/15 12:49 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

naw fuck the cakes your already there, next time try to mix your spawn up nice and evenly rather then layering it doesn't look to bad though but if it has stalled out or slowed down it may be on the wet side


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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: cronicr]
    #21451146 - 03/24/15 01:12 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

So i was essentially trying to fruit strait off the rye using magash's rye tek , I was shooting for more of a casing which is why they are so heavily layered. I also think that the substrate may have been too wet because the other casings are doing so well.... I do have one question though, the condensation in my fruiting chamber is most likely caused by lack of fae and a difference of temperature when comparing the inside to outside of it. Could this be fixed by cutting a few holes around the fruiting chamber? How do I create the high humidity without all of this condensation I don't need?

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21451159 - 03/24/15 01:16 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

they shouldnt' be in the fruiting chamber until they are colonized:shrug: they need gas exchange also


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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: cronicr]
    #21451183 - 03/24/15 01:24 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/8432/From-syringe-to-print-using-rye

I'm following this guys tek and it seems like he was doing pretty well. Ive been following the fruiting portion of it and the last thing I've been learning about is this fruiting chamber. I was just curious how I get rid of the condensation inside the tent now. I may just cut a few holes around the sides and top to create more air flow.

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21451193 - 03/24/15 01:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

The casings from my pictures are not in the fruiting chamber btw.. I may let them go longer and then just setting them in the fc to see what happens

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21451197 - 03/24/15 01:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

it's gonna have a hard time colonizing with no ge though, those look sealed off
as for your gh just make sure the intake from your coolmist is bringing in outside air, my coolmist alone gives me about 70% rh but i dont' sweat condensation when it happens


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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: cronicr]
    #21451226 - 03/24/15 01:36 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Okay sorry I kind of mixed things up on you there... Those trays are sealed off with holes for ge and they are up in my closet. I have other trays in my fc without any Saran Wrap... Good to know about the condensation though. Both of my humidifiers are in the bottom rack inside of the tent though. I've been unzipping the tent a little so that the cool mist can atleast breath from outside the tent. I was just worried that I didn't have enough air movement going on if there's just condensation all the time

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21451241 - 03/24/15 01:40 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

i wish i had pics but i make it so where the coolmist takes air in sits outside the gh so that it is constant fresh air from outside the gh, otherwise it's just pushing the same air around the gh and this will also help your condensation


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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: cronicr]
    #21451266 - 03/24/15 01:47 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

So do you rig your cool mist with tubing to make it work from outside?...

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21451300 - 03/24/15 01:54 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

I read that cutting slits or holes into the fc allows for fae even while leaving the humidifier inside the tent. I'm gonna give that a go and see if my condensation goes away

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21451307 - 03/24/15 01:55 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

slits work well too, that's how i first did gh's with a fan running in the room:thumbup:


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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: cronicr]
    #21452113 - 03/24/15 04:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Okay so my fruiting chamber is doing much better at the moment. I cut out some slits and also strategically placed the flap of the gh over the humidifier so it's pulling in air from outside... My final question is that if these casings truly stall, would they even fruit at all if I put them in there? They really aren't showing much signs of growth but they smell normal and look fine. I don't just want to throw them away and would like to try getting them to fruit still.

How many days is too long? Should I just try and fruit them?

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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: DaveyJones]
    #21452303 - 03/24/15 05:26 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)

Pics? Did you mark the growth with a sharpie to see if it stalled for sure?


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Re: Newcomer in need of assistance [Re: randoman]
    #21452457 - 03/24/15 05:59 PM (9 years, 1 month ago)


I didn't think about the sharpie idea so thanks for that info.. They really just don't seem to want to colonize any of the coir at all. They kinda just colonized the rye and didn't decide to go anywhere else. Only one tray grew a spot of mycelium and nothing else. Should I just stick that on in the fc?

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