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Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt-PENIS ENVY on WBS and Coir -Lab Manual Style- with pics- FIRST FLUSH PORN * 2
    #21443928 - 03/22/15 05:32 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

Learning Objectives:
-Establish a novice practical knowledge of WBS jars (preparation, inoculation, colonization, & spawning.
-Establish a novice practical knowledge of coco coir bulk substrate (inoculation, colonization, and fruiting).
-Gain an understanding of the technology and science of the Monotub.
-Successfully construct and utilize a Monotub
-Provide exemplary information on bulk cultivation for new cultivators and curious minds alike.

Materials Needed:
-Pressure cooker
-aluminum foil
-MS Syringe containing spores from unnamed species/strain.
-quart mason jars with rings (5 8 for this first attempt)
-prepared WBS lids with SHIP (self healing inoculation port- x2
            -jar lid
            -drill with 1/4" drill bit
            -tyvek (in this case a tyvek coverall $3.50 from Wal-Mart)
            -High temp Silicon gasket maker.
            -polyfill
            -medical micropore tape
-prepared WBS lid (tyvek filter and polyfill stuff inoculation port) -x6
-prepared wild bird seed (WBS)
-coco coir (exact amounts coming soon)
-vermiculite (bucket TEK show course Verm)
-constructed monotub
            -polyfill
            -sharp knife or shears
            -impermeable tape
            -can liner
-SAB (still air box)
-sanitizing agents (isopropyl alcohol, bleach spray, paper towels, alcohol lamp)
Please let me know if I missed anything.

Welcome back to another mycologist217 grow log. This time we will be cultivating an unnamed species of mushroom using Doc34's Wild Bird Seed TEK , and The Ohmatic Monotub TEK along with his coir pasteurization TEK. however, I will be using This coir substrate prep TEK (I will still be using "the bucket TEK" for pasteurization); Franks Simple Coir/Verm TEK for substrate prep, and Franks spawning TEK

I've begun the grow by starting the soaking of my WBS, and constructing my jar lids. More updates coming after inoculations.

I've decided that only one two of the jars will use a lid equipped with a SHIP.  I've used this design (with very successful results) for liquid cultures before and will use it for one of my WBS jars. The other four jars will use the procedure outlined in Doc34's WBS TEK. Here is a picture of my ship design:

The metal tube is a brass plumbing insert that has been gasketeed to the lid with high temp silicon. The bottom has been crimped and the insert has been stuffed with a wad of polyfilly before having a square of tyvek taped over it with micropore medical tape. The red spots visible are the SHIP (self healing injection port) and are simply high temp silicon that has been neatly squeezed through the drilled hole.

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21444158 - 03/22/15 06:30 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: blackdust]
    #21444201 - 03/22/15 06:41 PM (9 years, 8 days ago)

im sure this log will feature many questions first time bulk cultivators will ask. Other curious minds are welcome to pose their first bulk grow questions here.


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21447173 - 03/23/15 12:53 PM (9 years, 7 days ago)

Day 0-Day -1 -
This afternoon I finished preparing my WBS by draining it, rinsing it thoroughly, simmering it, then letting it drain dry for some time (this trial was roughly 55 minutes). It passed the toilet paper test.

I loaded my quart jars roughly halfway with the prepared WBS before applying the prepared WBS lids (in this case 2 with gas exchange port and a SHIP, and 6 with a polyfill filtered monoport over a tyvek filter). The jars were pressure cooked at 15psi for 60 minutes. After pressure naturally normalized, the jars were shaken and left to cool.

Inoculations are to take place in roughly 18 hours.  For now enjoy this picture of my prepared jars presterilization:


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21447328 - 03/23/15 01:42 PM (9 years, 7 days ago)

I wouldn't use up all your spores because standard practice says sterilize for 90 minutes, not 60.

I did 60 for a long time, not to say it won't work(sometimes), just maybe don't use everything up :justdontknow:


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: filthyknees]
    #21450884 - 03/24/15 11:53 AM (9 years, 6 days ago)

Day 0-
I inoculated my wild birdseed jars this morning. I must confess I'm very nervous about this whole procedure, but only because it's my first trial and I'm not familiar at all with what looks good and bad and where corners can be curved or where there is room for error. In my overall cultivation experience until now, I've found the mycelium to be forgiving and resilient.

it should be noted that when removing the needle from one of the 8 jars, the polyfill filter was pulled out of the lid. I micropore taped a piece of ISOlropyl soaked polyfill over the monoport

I did inoculate with a MS syringe. Can someone indicate to me how long it should take for mycelial growth to become evident?


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21453043 - 03/24/15 08:47 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

it varies but 3 perhaps 5 days

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: cpace]
    #21467813 - 03/27/15 09:11 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

Day 3-
I'm pretty sure I can see mycelium growing in at least one of my eight jars. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if I messed this all up. I feel like too many of my kernels are exploded...and I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking for. Only time will tell. At least I have my healthy PF TEK grow coming along to keep my mind at ease.

I picked up some gypsum and perlite today to restock, and I also went ahead and bought a new bag of WBS from the local Kroger...a huge value...only $4.50

If I am forced to start over and inoculate new jars, I will construct SHIP bearing lids for all my jars as currently the only jar I'm pretty sure has visible mycelium is one of the two jars with a SHIP.


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21468385 - 03/27/15 10:48 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

I have issues with WBS aswell, and identifying issues in general, day 8 now after inoculating WBS with creeper strain from spores 101.

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: saskyshroomer]
    #21468847 - 03/28/15 01:17 AM (9 years, 3 days ago)

You should check this out! I don't have to ever guess if I'm going to have contaminants! my current grow log


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mad Season]
    #21471422 - 03/28/15 07:08 PM (9 years, 2 days ago)

Day 4-
Please to discover tonight that 7 of my 8 jars are sporting patches of new mycelium. Still think my seeds might be too high in concentration of exploded seeds...don't know...but I love these jars and are sending them all the love I can.

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21471740 - 03/28/15 08:35 PM (9 years, 2 days ago)

When I saw that little dot of myc, I said "aw" audibly as if I was looking at a baby. Then I saw the second dot and I was like "TWINS"

sorry I love this stuff. keep up the good work, your jars are getting love from me too.

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: PenguInsanity]
    #21477005 - 03/29/15 11:40 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Day 6-
Upon inspection today all 8 of my WBS jars have mycelium growing in them. No signs of anything but white currently! I gave each jar a decent shake today as directed by the TEK. I must note that I really enjoy observing this colonization more than the PF TEK jars. It might be the interactive nature of giving the WBS a good shake ever 4-5 days or so.

I have started prepping more WBS for another 8 jar culture run. Really want to get it right the first time and I feel like maximizing my opportunity is the best bet. No new pics as of yet as there is little to get on camera yet...much less than meets the eye in person. More pics she the colonization reaches more notable points.


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21478549 - 03/30/15 12:34 PM (9 years, 19 hours ago)

Day 6-
The mycelium in many of the jars was effectively spread across the jar during the shake. There are now patches throughout the entirety of all the jars.

-it should be noted that the jars have been kept at 80D F pretty consistently.

Here's a picture of my Wild bird seed jar 6 Days post inoculation:


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21483091 - 03/31/15 12:19 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 7 -
My jars are simply exploding with growth, and as the growth becomes more and more expansive the rhizomorphic bits of the mycelium are becoming more and more apparent. It's really exciting to watch. I would estimate my jars at around 50-60% colonized but I'm not sure. At this rate however, Ill be ready to spawn them on Easter or early next week. Never imagined I'd see this type of progress on my first WBS inoculation but I understand the real test is during substrate colonization here is a picture of one of the jars:


Also I finished prepping my next quarts of WBS jars this morning and have them pressure sterilizing right now. I did build eight brand new grain/WBS lids featuring SHIPs, the design of which was posted earlier in this log. But here they are before going into the sterilizer:

Of course I added aluminum foil lids before putting them in PC.


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21484235 - 03/31/15 05:04 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Looking great!! Also on a side note bulk is actually way easier and a lot more forgiving. There's a reason why all you need is a pasteurization rather than sterilizing like with grains. It's because grains can host LOTS of molds very quickly. Out on the fields of manure, you won't see much molds on the old aged manure and coir is basically so contamination resistant you don't even need to pasteurize properly like with the bucket tek

In my experience bulk grains have always been the biggest challenge


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mad Season]
    #21485754 - 03/31/15 11:00 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 8-
The jars are colonizing at what I consider an unreal pace. I feel like they will be at 100% colonization by Saturday, a coup,e of the jars seem closer to 70-80% colonized already. I gave each jar a good shake today, and I suppose now I should just what until 100%? Obviously I want to spawn my jars together as part of the same Monotub. If my jars colonize a couple days apart is it going to be okay to let the faster jars wait?

What is the average colonization time for a WBS jar inoculated from MS syringe? Is 9-10 days average?
Heres a picture of one of the slower jars:


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21486077 - 04/01/15 01:01 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

congrats on teh growth.

but i would like to point out those grains look a lil too wet, over cooked, and starchy.

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: twistedty]
    #21487847 - 04/01/15 01:29 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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congrats on teh growth.

but i would like to point out those grains look a lil too wet, over cooked, and starchy.

:heart:



Starchy? All my passed the tissue test. I feel really good about these jars. On my way to a bountiful first Monotub. I feel it in the air


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    #21487852 - 04/01/15 01:30 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

dont get me wrong im rooting for you :smile:.  keeeep us posted!

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: twistedty]
    #21491737 - 04/02/15 10:22 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 9-10
It's approximately 10 days post inoculation maybe 9.5 but almost all jars are completely over taken by mycelium. I only shook the jars on day 4 and then on day 8. It was indicated to me by another poster that this fast of colonization could mean contamination? Don't understand why...,the dispersal of the spores across the jar into what could be dozens to hundreds of points of germination might have just led to an exponentially shorter colonization time? Not to mention constant incubation at 80 degrees... Here's a 5 jar sample from last night


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21491913 - 04/02/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

love them after post shake :thumbup:

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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21491968 - 04/02/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I would be skeptical of 100% jars in 10 days from spore inoculation. It takes days like half that time for the spores to even start myc.
Along with that patchy growth (if those pictures you posted are supposed to be 100% cube myc) and saying you incubate at 80 degrees I would say those look suspect.


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: filthyknees]
    #21492239 - 04/02/15 12:37 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

They look kinda off. If they look 100% give em a wiff and see what they smell like


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mad Season]
    #21492489 - 04/02/15 02:01 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

They don't look 100% but easily close to it. I did open one and smell it...it smelled like wild bird seed and mushroom...not even remotely foul. This log documents that mycelium appeared on day 3.....I don't think there is anything strange about that. What about the, looks off? My PF TEK jars colonized 100% in just 15 days and they don't get mixed up....


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Re: Grow Log- 1st Bulk Attempt- WBS and Coir - Lab Manual Style- with pics [Re: Mycologist217]
    #21492556 - 04/02/15 02:14 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

The docs wbs tek specifically says to incubate at 80 degrees...its apparent to me that the 80 degree incubation is what causes the faster growth...been incubating 31 pf jars at 80 degrees for the last 22 days. I inoculated 36 jars total but 5 of them didn't show mycelium at 1/4 inoculation points a week or so after inoculation so I prematurely threw them out. They were not visually contaminated

As far as my wbs jars go...i feel like the fact that they are all growing at similar pace is a good thing...meanwhile not a single one shows a visual
of being contaminated and the one I sniffed smelled absolutely pleasant.


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    #21493242 - 04/02/15 05:23 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I don't incubate. My jars finished in 10 days at 70-75 temps I wouldn't throw jars that show nothing after  a week out.. I've had jars take 4 weeks just for the spores to germinate


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    #21496018 - 04/03/15 10:55 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

They sound good man nothing to worry about. If they smell fine they are fine. The pics are just bad angles or just a good example of multispore. Just keep doing what you're doing.

Were just saying the incubator isn't necessary. You'll see lots of condensation on the walls of the jars because the mycelium will heat up as its colonizing and make the internal temp of the jar above 80 while in a room temp of 65-75 according to a post from RR I read long ago


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    #21504554 - 04/04/15 11:43 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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I've begun pasteurization of my coir substrate tonight. I used 1 brick of coir, 2 quarts of course vermiculite, and a handful of gypsum. I'm about to hydrate my spawn as per franks spawning TEK.


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Spawned my WBS tonight using six fully colonized quarts. I gave each jar a thorough sniff and was delighted to smell nothing but fresh mushroom. I cannot express how nervous I am now. The bucket TEK isn't exactly full proof and my FAE holes didn't exactly land at substrate level....but they are no more than an inch above it.

I dunked the jars for a good a 17 minutes before spawning as per franks TEK. I know adding nutrient like gypsum is damn near inviting contam, but his TEK says that if the coir is properly Pasteurized and the spawn is 100% colonized, then I will not see a contamination before flush one. Obviously I'm hoping for a speedy colonization. Curious minds can observe my...okay...first attemp at constructing a Monotub. I really hope this works out. Let me know how you think the construct looks.


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    #21509871 - 04/06/15 11:26 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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It's approximatel a day and a half since I spawned 6quarts of WBS to my first constructed Monotub. I spawned the 6 quarts to a coir/Verm/gypsum/water substrate.  Only 36 hours later I see tremendous progress. This is what my tub looks like today:


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    #21514998 - 04/07/15 01:11 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 16-
The Monotub seems to still be colonizing very nicely. I can see the rhizomorphic branching of the mycelium across the surface. It's really cool to observe that in some places it is just starting to be taken by the mycelium where others have dense ropey growth completely whiting out the substrate.  There is light condensation on the walls of the Monotub and the lid is regularly obscured with fog, like breathing directly on a window pane. Super excited about the next week or so. The condensation made it tough to get a decent shot of the tub today, but I can tell everything looks great...with one exception. I didn't really work hard to level out my tub.,,it's actually pretty bumpy...,is leveling it out super important?

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    #21519094 - 04/08/15 11:24 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Nice work:thumbup: just for kicks I would make hills and troughs in my tubs,worked out great


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    #21520277 - 04/08/15 05:06 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Montub has been colonizing since late Saturday night. It is getting so covered I. White rhizomorphic mycelium that they yellow specs of bird seed at starting to stand out. It's awesome see the myc reaching over and grabbing the substrate. Can't wait to see this to full colonization and introduce it to fruiting conditions. I hope my first bulk pin set is beautiful, but I have to keep some modesty about it...still have a long way to go before a healthy first harvest. At any rate here's a picture through the lid of the Monotub....the darker area is just in shadow:

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    #21520336 - 04/08/15 05:19 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

woot sauce :hippie:

Im on day 7 into fruiting my first mono, finally seeing some good pins.

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Montub has been colonizing since late Saturday night. It is getting so covered I. White rhizomorphic mycelium that they yellow specs of bird seed at starting to stand out. It's awesome see the myc reaching over and grabbing the substrate. Can't wait to see this to full colonization and introduce it to fruiting conditions. I hope my first bulk pin set is beautiful, but I have to keep some modesty about it...still have a long way to go before a healthy first harvest. At any rate here's a picture through the lid of the Monotub....the darker area is just in shadow:

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    #21526178 - 04/09/15 08:59 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 18-
Mostly a picture update today. I did t record it in this log but I inoculated 8 more quarts of WBS a week ago (again from MS syringe with unnamed species and strain), and things are looking pretty great. Personally I can tell just by looking at these that I did a better job that the first 8. I shook them on day 4 after all of them showed mycelium and they recovered very quickly, and are now well on their way to full colonization.  Really can't remember if I did these last Tuesday Wednesday or Thursday..,,but I'm mildly certain today is day 7 or 8 for the jars, and the Monotub has been colonizing since Sunday morning.


I wish I could take a better picture of the Monotub, but I don't want to open the lid. Everything looks awesome in there to me, I especially love the way the rhizomorphic arms web out. I am starting to think it might be hard to tell when the substrate is at 100%


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    #21526682 - 04/09/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I'd say another 24 or 48 hours. Let it get a little more white and thicker. Looking yummy


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    #21528881 - 04/10/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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    #21530317 - 04/10/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Another picture update...went ahead and lofted the lid for a couple clear photos...trying to get a good idea of when to fruit, please help me out.


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I'd say now. Looks ready. Also probably going to initiate pinning anyway. Opening the lid can cause that :P


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    #21530898 - 04/10/15 10:35 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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As per the opinions of many shroomerites (a couple trusted cultivators) I went ahead and put my tub into feuiting conditions. I hope I dialed it in well. I found it especially hard to compact the polyfill for the bottom holes, but they are very tightly stuffed, and the top holes are very loosely stuffed. I placed a small fan (12" fan) on low in the room with the tub pointIng at the corner behind the Monotub with no direct wind blowing on the tub. I went ahead with not casing the substrate, I have some coir and Verm, I'd be willing to make a late casing, but I'm willing to save the casing layer for grow #2. I just want to know for myself I suppose. Wish me luck fruiting, and please send this Monotub good vibes! Here's a couple shots of the fruited tub:


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As per the opinions of many shroomerites (a couple trusted cultivators) I went ahead and put my tub into feuiting conditions. I hope I dialed it in well. I found it especially hard to compact the polyfill for the bottom holes, but they are very tightly stuffed, and the top holes are very loosely stuffed. I placed a small fan (12" fan) on low in the room with the tub pointIng at the corner behind the Monotub with no direct wind blowing on the tub. I went ahead with not casing the substrate, I have some coir and Verm, I'd be willing to make a late casing, but I'm willing to save the casing layer for grow #2. I just want to know for myself I suppose. Wish me luck fruiting, and please send this Monotub good vibes! Here's a couple shots of the fruited tub:




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    #21544542 - 04/13/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 23-
Picture update today. The mycelium looks pretty good to my untrained eye. I can see small individual beads droplets of water on the surface, and my Monotub looks just like the example of good FAE in franks dial in your Monotub tek. The mycelium is pretty well knotted as far as I can see.  I really can't wait to see this thing pin...or blob...



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That time between when it starts knotting and when the first pins show up is magical. Over the next couple days you start seeing one or two pins, then more every day.


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That time between when it starts knotting and when the first pins show up is magical. Over the next couple days you start seeing one or two pins, then more every day.



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    #21545342 - 04/14/15 07:44 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Nice write up! Awesome mono tub too! Will sub and keep an eye on this. I'm planning to start my first grow in a few weeks.


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    #21545470 - 04/14/15 08:33 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

This is such a great post.  I'm about to attempt my first monotub as well and I hope I have the success that you are experiencing.  Its been fun following along and I continue to learn everyday.

Thanks for taking the time to do this.  The pictures and posts are so easy to follow and I find myself checking back frequently for updates.  I'm invested, damn it :smile:


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    #21547265 - 04/14/15 04:48 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 24-
Still no pins today, but it hasn't even been a full five days since fruiting. I'm not worried,..just very anxious. Can't wait to see what pins in a Monotub look like in person. Here's what my mycelium looks like today:


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    #21555127 - 04/16/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 26-
I am getting extremely anxious waiting on pins. I can't help wondering what they  will look like. I have a SGFC fruiting PF TEK cakes right next to my Monotub and I think about how small those pins are and for some reason it seems silly to me that they will be that small when they appear in the Monotub....but obviously they will be...I ,wan they have to be right? Today is the sixth day after fruiting, so I'm really hoping for some results before the weekend is out. Despite my penis envy PF TEK cakes fruiting already...I just want the montotub to pin way more. Here's a picture of the surface of the Monotub:

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    #21555356 - 04/16/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Looks a little dry :/ but pics aren't that great. I can't see any water droplets but I'm sure they're there. Realistically it'll pin when it's ready :smile:


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    #21555850 - 04/16/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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I am getting extremely anxious waiting on pins. I can't help wondering what they  will look like. I have a SGFC fruiting PF TEK cakes right next to my Monotub and I think about how small those pins are and for some reason it seems silly to me that they will be that small when they appear in the Monotub....but obviously they will be...I ,wan they have to be right? Today is the sixth day after fruiting, so I'm really hoping for some results before the weekend is out. Despite my penis envy PF TEK cakes fruiting already...I just want the montotub to pin way more. Here's a picture of the surface of the Monotub:

Thanks for all the positive energy. Hopefully this spirit bomb is ready to take frieza out soon.



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    #21556036 - 04/16/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Nice Myco I have anxiety also on my cakes and have some trays that are in incubation! I have the wait!

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Eventually you'll have more going on than you can deal with. Anxiety will be gone fast :grin:


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    #21567340 - 04/19/15 10:12 AM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Pinning yet? Been almost a week since it looked ready to go.


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    #21567780 - 04/19/15 12:04 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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    #21568185 - 04/19/15 02:03 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

You will...just keep giving it what it needs:thumbup:


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    #21571438 - 04/20/15 12:09 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 30-
The surface of the montub looks ready to explode with pins. They look like the surface of my PF cakes just before they went off. The tubs still looks like franks example of what a proper FAE monotub is supposed to look like. I have good feelings about the next day or so. Pictures:


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    #21571454 - 04/20/15 12:15 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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    #21587672 - 04/23/15 08:01 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

You are going to have a massive canopy going here very soon.
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    #21588189 - 04/23/15 09:42 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Day 33-
Thanks for all the support and encouragement.
The surface of the Monotub is busier than a 15 year old's face...I literally cannot take the wait anymore. I feel like I must have fruited way to early. The mucelium looks highly active still...knotting like crazy...just waiting. Here's a pic of the substrate tonight:


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    #21588270 - 04/23/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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    #21590528 - 04/24/15 01:12 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 34-
This thing definitely wants to fruit like crazy.....it's just taking its sweet time.  I'm glad I have some feuiting PF Tek cakes to keep me occupied...and 7 more quarts of wild birdseed about ready to spawn. Pictures of this substrate today:
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    #21601204 - 04/26/15 08:26 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 36-
Finally!!! After 15 full days in fruiting condition my first Monotub finally pinned, and to my delight the first pins appeared smack dab in the middle of the substrate! I'm fairly certain I have some blobs growing too, but I don't care. I'm really excited to finally see this project fruit and pin! I take it over the next several days they are just going to start popping up everywhere? Very very excited to see how this first flush goes...pictures of my first ever bulk grow pins:


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Lookin good! ant wait to see it take off!

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    #21610916 - 04/28/15 08:39 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 38-
Blobs...lots of them. I can see several mushroom pins also, but there are lots and lots of little freckled blobs. After the results I got from MS syringe penis envy on the PF TEK (no blobs and fruits that looked like any thee cubensis) I figured the bulk grow would yield similar results as it was from an MS syringe from the same vendor, but it looks like I was wrong. Can't wait to see how these pins and blobs mature. No pictures today...not much more to snap except a bunch of blobs and I'll get pictures of those up when everything gets a bit bigger. Growth seems a little slower than than the BRF cakes I'm used to.


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    #21610944 - 04/28/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Heard that penis envy with a casing will reduce the amount of blobs first flush. The 2nd flush usually has a lot more cock too. Next project you should try a casing. Or even better do a side by side of with and without casing :smile:


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    #21617938 - 04/30/15 03:14 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 40-
My tub is blob city. I see dozens of tiny freckled blobs growing in clusters, and only 4 mushroom pins across the tub. They seem to be growing pretty slow. Do blobs just stay really small? The pins also seem to be growing on the slow side...honestly I just want this project to be over with.


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    #21621057 - 05/01/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

You have a pic of the tub Myco217

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    #21621113 - 05/01/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 41-
Sure I have pictures of the great blob fest!
Feast your eyes on these slow growing blob colonies:

I suppose casing would have been the best practice here...just waiting for second flush I suppose.


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Wow thats crazy! Hopefully soon they will bust!

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    #21624453 - 05/02/15 12:40 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 41-
Pinning finally took off today with more and more mushrooms starting to appear in lieu of blobs. Honestly, as a first time encountee with penis envy blob I am very curious to scientifically test them. Beyond that it is much more surprising to me that when I used a penis envy ms syringe on PF tek (grow log found HERE) that it acted as normally as any other cube. Admittedly the potency higher than the b+ grown along side it, but the pinsets and shape of fruit bodies was mostly consistent with other cubes than the classic pictures of dick shapes penis envy found widespread across this forum. Based on this evidence I was assuming that a MS spore syringe of Penis Envy from the same supplier would perform similarly when used with WBS and spawned to bulk. To my finding, the Monotub has performed exactly as described by the veteran cultivators on this forum. Blobs are everywhere in this uncased Penis Envy montub grow. Beyond that, the pins that have formed and developed to decent size have indeed broken their veils early and look like the dick shapes penis envy spread across this forum, it is simply astonishing to me the effect the technique has played. Obviously I might be over stretching things as the inoculant in both trials is a ms spore syringe, two different ones at that, but why do my PF TEK penis envy fruits look so much more like regular cubes and why do the blobs only happen in bulk?

I am beyond excited to test blobs for potency, but I ask, at what point are the blobs done growing? When the pins they formed with mature? Please help me understand...more pictures when the abundance of pins amidst countless blobs becomes more evident.


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    #21627302 - 05/02/15 07:26 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 42-
Things are simply going crazy!!! More and more pins everytime I check....blob city still, but check this out!


Finally feeling a bit of relief! The anxiety of waiting for this thing to happen was tough...its taken longer to get an edible fruit from the bulk than the PF tek...but I cant worry about that. Thanks so much for all the support shoomerites.


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    #21627394 - 05/02/15 07:50 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Your observation of pf cake pe and bulk pe got me thinking. Perhaps blobs are the result of an abundance of water avaibility? Bulk substrates are used because of there ability to hold alot of water while pf cakes need to be manually waterd to induce evaporation.. if you're up to it, use 10-15%  less water in your next tub and post the results.

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    #21629848 - 05/03/15 12:12 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Hey first post! I just made an account today cause im doing the same thing :smile: I have been a long time lurker and have done penis envy pf tek in the past, now trying my luck with bulk, Im using 3 quarts of wbs with a lil verm and gypsum in them, just noced them up with Golden Teachers to test waters, their incubating at 80 degrees now. If I see any colonization ill noc up the rest (9 jars), I really wanna try rye grain tho, the wbs I had was soaked, simmered and pc', the new wbs I soaked last night was a bit starchy im wondering if thats okay.

Has your tub boomed already? Im planning on spawning to coco coir/verm/compost manure from cows, and mayby put some pickling lime or gypsum, dunno if itll help. Or should I avoid the compost?



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    #21630466 - 05/03/15 02:44 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 43-
Things are just super exciting right now....more and more pins every time I look. Many are still hard to see, but many of you will be able to see the vast difference from yesterday to today. Enjoy this picture update of these little dick shaped wonders.

I really really want to touch the blobs...but I know better than that. They look like little birds eggs.


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    #21631302 - 05/03/15 06:45 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Hey do you think I filled one of my jars up too much? Or its not a big deal? I put around 2ccs per jar, im hoping they colonize good and arent too filled :/


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Hey do you think I filled one of my jars up too much? Or its not a big deal? I put around 2ccs per jar, im hoping they colonize good and arent too filled :/




I saw the picture of your jars, I think it will be okay....this is my first time doing grain...I'm no expert.


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    #21634009 - 05/04/15 09:58 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Hey awsome man ! I am excited to see your success! here are my 6 jars of wbs !
I can not wait to get this started I check your post daily and it gives me hope and Ideas!
I am excited to say that my jars are 100% colonized and free from contamination so far!!!
I have been very patient with them and it has paid off! I cant wait to see how much of a first flush you get buddy!! Let me know how much you get wet and dry from this!
I had woke up to my first really big flush from a tray I spawned some cakes a month ago the pic is in my sig!

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    #21634095 - 05/04/15 10:25 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey awsome man ! I am excited to see your success! here are my 6 jars of wbs !
I can not wait to get this started I check your post daily and it gives me hope and Ideas!
I am excited to say that my jars are 100% colonized and free from contamination so far!!!
I have been very patient with them and it has paid off! I cant wait to see how much of a first flush you get buddy!! Let me know how much you get wet and dry from this!
I had woke up to my first really big flush from a tray I spawned some cakes a month ago the pic is in my sig!



Thanks so much for the support. There is no doubt in my head that the positive vibes coming from you and the other awesome members of this forum are a huge influence on the performance [success] of this project.

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That time between when it starts knotting and when the first pins show up is magical. Over the next couple days you start seeing one or two pins, then more every day.




You have indeed proved to be correct. At first I was worried to see just two small pins, but now the first two guys are getting quite massive, and there are just more and more pins all the time. I can easily count 40 small fruits growing. Of course there are blobs everywhere (I want to touch them so bad!!! :crazy2:) the growing time of these mushrooms seems rather long. My Pf Tek fruits mature in about 6-7 days, these pins are going on 8 and look less than half mature (the two very large ones, but I don't know...its my first time). Still wowing over the difference in behavior and physical traits from of Tek to bulk grow penis envy, but I must admit I'm very very excited to have the dicks here in the flesh. I am over the moon about testing this strange magic...and when that special moment comes when at last I get to touch the blobs! One two pictures today..,tried to get as much of the tub In as possible...this 66qt thing really is quite large.

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    #21635054 - 05/04/15 02:15 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Lovely! Im praying to the gods below for my jars to look like that:grin:


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    #21639458 - 05/05/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 45-
The Monotub is a wonderland of little penis envy mushrooms. It's interesting how some of them have caramel coloring and others are just white. Also it is strange how many of them arch over and point their caps back at the substrate. They are are slow growing but the two biggest ones are getting to be a thick as rolls of quarters. I imagine they will have a good deal of mass when finally they reach time for harvest, but as of yet the area under the cap remains smooth. Lots and lots of pins now, mostly appearing in pairs...some show up solo, and a few patches of three. Thanks for putting up with this real time log! My first tub today:


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    #21643228 - 05/06/15 07:52 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 46-
The others dare starting to size up compared to the two super stars. Obviously whenever someone makes a Monotub, they hope for a full canopy of shrooms across their tub. Honestly, I'm very very happy with my first ever Monotubs pinset. I a, happy that the fruits are spread fairly evenly across the substrate's surface, in lieu of just popping up along the edges like I've seen in many picture examples across this forum. I feel like my tub is setting itself up to have a ,on stro's second flush, can't wait to see that.

When can I pick these mushrooms? I know a lot of people say to wait until they look like they have warts under the cap....I'm just anxious....the caps folded up today...take a look in the pics today and let me know how much longer these look like they have to you before time to pick:

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Yummy :smile: won't be long now. Just be patient :smile:


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    #21648101 - 05/07/15 08:14 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 47-
It's really awesome to see how the tub "fills up" as the pins reach a decent size. ITa gone from a pretty lacking looking flush to being a flush I'm extremely proud of and excited to sample. These will be the first pwnis envy I e tried aside from the PF Tek grow I did that had extremely varying results in the shape of the fruit body....I'm excited to sink into these extremely fat little mushrooms. I know the rumour is they are pretty dense, but obviously it is the potency that drives us to try pwnis envy.

The blobs are not getting larger.  Also as the pins started appearing in mass quantity (still more showing up all the time) the blobs stopped popping up. The ones that were already there, they got very slightly larger, but seem pretty stagnant now. I antocate this flush ,auguring by end of day Sunday, but there's really just no telling.

I've been struggling with decoding how I'm going to go about preparing the tub for the second flush. I am leaning towards flabbergasted"s tip of just "misting like hell" and leaving it be. Let me know if there is a better practice...

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    #21650468 - 05/07/15 07:45 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I can't resist...im harvesting the two big ones and testing out the mighty penis envy


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    #21651598 - 05/08/15 12:50 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

nice bro :thumbup:

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    #21652424 - 05/08/15 08:44 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 48-
These things are way too much, I thought I knew about them....I didn't know shit. No body knows shit. I am positively floored by how strong these are....no one deserves to know. But the first flush is reaching total maturity...I picked 60 wet grams in just three fruits last night....can't wait to see how much these weigh, but I am scared to eat these again..,they are simply too much.


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    #21652442 - 05/08/15 08:49 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Just dose less next time. They say pe is twice as potent. Honestly all cubes can knock you on your ass. Soon you'll forget about it or even want it to happen. I usually dose up with the expectations to get knocked onto my ass lol


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    #21656686 - 05/09/15 10:17 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 49-
So its approaching the hour of harvesting the first flush. Would love an opinion on as to whether i should wait til tomorrow. These fruits are so intimidating. I'm not exactly keen to share them after the experience I had the other night, but I suppose as mad season suggests, a smaller dose (maybe 2 dry grams) would be much more appropriate. The 29 wet grams I ate the other night was just too much...unlike any experience I've ever had and this is no where near my first rodeo.

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    #21657152 - 05/09/15 12:23 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

More than half the tub should get harvested today. There's still some that look like they could wait til tomorrow.

Basically every mushroom that has their caps opened up.


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    #21659168 - 05/09/15 09:48 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 49-
So the a majority of the first flush fruits have been harvested. Pulled out 425 wet grams so far. Plus the 60 wet grams harvested on Thursday.  I estimate there's at least another 280 wet grams left growing in the tub.

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    #21667821 - 05/11/15 10:58 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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So I have harvested almost all remaining fruits from the first flush for a staggering 910 wet grams total yield, plus blobs that I just threw away. The fruits are drying now. I hope I was easy enough on the substrate for the second flush to come in alright. It has blued a fair bit. I mister it like crazy, and am hoping for the best.

The teks are all very vague on what to do between flushes. I need advise please. Tell me what else I need to do if just misting the hell out of the substrate once or twice isn't  enough.

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    #21668027 - 05/12/15 12:10 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Dunk that shit:thumbup:
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    #21671684 - 05/12/15 07:37 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

If you don't like the aesthetics of the blobs, turn them into chocolates or use for extraction
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    #21688019 - 05/16/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Day 56-
I am a little disappointed to see that the bluing to the substrate from the stress of harvesting the first flush has not subsided. The entire surface of the tub is blue with penis envy. The first flush feuits by now have all been harvested and weighed out to over 4 dry ounces. The potency is absolutely breath taking, where I had been used to 3-4 gram doses, these penis envy Monotub fruits rock my world at 2-2.8 grams.  There are a couple young pins coming in on the tub but I don't know if it is the start of the second flush or end of first.

All I've done to prepare the tub for the second flush is mist the hell out of it on three occasions. I also slightly reduced air flow in the room.  Really nervous. I hope I get a second flush that is comparable to my first.

On Monday evenng I spawned six more quarts of fully colonized wild bird seed to a second Monotub of coir vermiculite and gypsum. I used a different kind of totoe for this Monotub. A Ziploc made 60 quart tub complete with 6 latches (advertised as "triple the latches as other containers", and a gasket inside the lid that seems to form a nice seal. Immediately after spawning I was concerned that the advertised seal backed by the Ziploc brand name would inhibit gas exchange (I was not the person who purchased the tote, and all the purchaser knew was it had to have a latching CLEAR lid.). I have been delighted to find that the tub is colonizing at breakneck speeds.

This second tub is also a penis envy tub from a MS syringe obtained from the same supplier as the initial syringe for this grow. Despite the presence of small blobs that did not reach substantial size in the first tub, I am not planning on casing the second either. Honestly, my intents and purposes are totally satisfied running four ounce flushes. To delve a little into my personal life, I am in the process of moving into a new home and I need to be bothered as little as possible by the cultivation.

Over my latest couple grows, I've grown an even deeper love and respect for what I am doing as a muahroom cultivator, and I plan on continuing with out halting. I have officially graduated myself from the PF tek. Monotubs are just better. Not having to deal with maintaining a SGFC is just great. Hat I want to know is why people experiment with these minitrays spawned inside sgfcs....is that better than a Monotub that requires two hours of effort on two days 10-20 days apart.

At any rate sorry for the lack of updates this week....not a lot to report between flushes....aside from my resounding success with my first ever bulk grow. I want to extend a personal thank you to all shroomerites who have supported me in this grow. Your positive energy and encouragement have been a direct influence on the success this log has profiled! Thank you guys.

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    #21735800 - 05/29/15 07:00 AM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Great Job Myco, sorry I haven't been on here lately been super busy ! But great job. My first wbs mono took off just over a week and pin city!

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    #21833541 - 06/20/15 07:09 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Doo Itt!! This was a great log.

What ever happened with the second flush?

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I had to move into a new house....had to throw everything away. All moved in now...ready to start three monotubs


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    #21843236 - 06/22/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

Sucks you had to move. Are you a Student by any chance? I am, and have not had a residence for longer than 4 months for nearly 3 years now. Setting up a grow every time is a pain in the dick, and moving it is risky.

I've tried this think last week which might be a huge success if it works out.

I took my used agar plates, with wedges cut out but plenty of clean Mycelium. Blended them in a gallon of water, and took a long 3 mile hike though the local forest with my gallon jug splashing it and pouring it in every low, shady, cool place I could find along the trail.

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