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TeaSippinHippie



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Man guys.. *DELETED*
#21440488 - 03/21/15 06:09 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Buck513

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If contamination is that bad then something is seriously wrong. Try and find the source by process of elimination. Is it your grain prep, tool sterilization, try a different room if you can and see what happens.
Trace the source!
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Re: Man guys.. [Re: Buck513]
#21440537 - 03/21/15 06:20 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Are you using spore syringes?
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ganjfather
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TeaSippinHippie said:
I followed my sab instructions to point, I do all the proper sterilization steps, I think the rooms I stay in are just breeding grounds for mold, but anyway I've ordered more bags and put my PC and wbs up till I have a better environment to do everything from scratch again.
Naw, I guarantee I can grow just fine in your home. My house/room are fucking disgusting with dogs running around everywhere and people and mold and roommate fuckheads who leave food and dishes everywhere..
You can make a trucker bathroom stall work if you keep your sterile process on point. You are doing something wrong. Maybe you should try the PF tek and practice sterile procedures before going bulk.
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Buck513

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professorFATTYCAP
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TeaSippinHippie said:
I followed my sab instructions to point, I do all the proper sterilization steps, I think the rooms I stay in are just breeding grounds for mold, but anyway I've ordered more bags and put my PC and wbs up till I have a better environment to do everything from scratch again.
Naw, I guarantee I can grow just fine in your home. My house/room are fucking disgusting with dogs running around everywhere and people and mold and roommate fuckheads who leave food and dishes everywhere..
You can make a trucker bathroom stall work if you keep your sterile process on point. You are doing something wrong. Maybe you should try the PF tek and practice sterile procedures before going bulk.
Hey ganj.I gotta know what those tall fuckers are in ur posts. Are all 3 pics of the same crop.they are seriously tall bro. What variety if u don't mind
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mushpunx
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Yea, I was reading old threads and read RR saying he does his work in front of his flow hood in his bedroom that is both carpeted and has a dog that sleeps in there
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Val
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I got 35 year old carpet, and used to have a dog also...mostly problem free i am. I do all of my sterile work in front of a hood...thats what saves me...that and my never-ending use of isopropanol,flame and a PC.
Its all in the Details...If your not using agar, I would start there.
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Re: Man guys.. [Re: Val]
#21441629 - 03/22/15 12:14 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I first started this hobby I was anal about sterilization and proper techniques. I have found that 97% of my contams problems always stems from not running a full 90 minutes in the pressure cooker . With bags I will do a full 120 minutes . Bags pack in the pc more tightly than jars . Good luck man .
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Re: Man guys.. [Re: Val]
#21441640 - 03/22/15 12:21 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Val said: If your not using agar, I would start there.

It sounds like either your syringe is contaminated, which it probably is because they almost all are. This a good reason to learn agar.
And/or your grow bags are not being properly sterilized and/or you are contaminating them somehow.
Honestly, I think jars are easier to wok with anyway, especially in a SAB.
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TheEaglesGift
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This a good reason to learn agar.
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Honestly, I think jars are easier to wok with anyway, especially in a SAB.
Agreed.
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ganjfather
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TeaSippinHippie said:
I followed my sab instructions to point, I do all the proper sterilization steps, I think the rooms I stay in are just breeding grounds for mold, but anyway I've ordered more bags and put my PC and wbs up till I have a better environment to do everything from scratch again.
Naw, I guarantee I can grow just fine in your home. My house/room are fucking disgusting with dogs running around everywhere and people and mold and roommate fuckheads who leave food and dishes everywhere..
You can make a trucker bathroom stall work if you keep your sterile process on point. You are doing something wrong. Maybe you should try the PF tek and practice sterile procedures before going bulk.
Hey ganj.I gotta know what those tall fuckers are in ur posts. Are all 3 pics of the same crop.they are seriously tall bro. What variety if u don't mind
Those are some fijis that I've been working with recently. MS too...
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Hashish
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could it be the way you prepare your grains?
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BluntsenBurner
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Re: Man guys.. [Re: Hashish]
#21442648 - 03/22/15 11:04 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you're having contam issues start from the top, in the little experience I've had, I've found that most my problems stem from the steps before you even inoculate. grain prep and such.
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Try going to the pf tek just to get some sucess, also prepare thr grain yourself and then you can narrow things down easier. I bet your grain isnt prepared correctly or its the syringe. Do a couple pf cake grows, make a few prints yourself and start honing your own technique s. Ive found that as long as you are pretty thorough with your sterile steaming or pressure cooking, you can successfully grow pf cakes in any enviornment. I hope things work out for ya. Good luck. Y
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TeaSippinHippie



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Sorry I've been gone so long haha
To put things together, i started out with Premade bags, had a good grow then did it Starting from scratch i had 1 successful Batch then could never get it right again.
So i started buying premade bags from a trusted vendor again To do bulk with. Iv had successful grows before I've read everything on this site, im positive its the bag because some go bad before i get to them, there always replaced free but its a hassle.
ANYWAYYYYYYYYS heres my monobucket starting up, If you look you can see flat pins that look like flapjacks? Will they grow or just stay like that?
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ZeroBoyWD
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Ditch the still airbox. (PEACE BROTHERS! PEACE!)
Clean the shit outta your bathroom.
PC your substrate. Don't take it out.
When you are ready to work, shut the vent and douse the bathroom in lysol. Hit the baseboards and any seams, try to hit all the air space.
Bring your still closed pressure cooker into the bathroom.
Lock yourself in and don your mask and gloves and rub yourself down with 91% iso (hands and arms, wear long sleeves.
Wipe down your work area with 70% iso. Wipe down the PC. Next take your syringe (BEFORE you take out the needle) and wipe down with the Iso. Pay special attention to the cap on the tip. Wipe down the sealed container the needle is in.
Quickly open the end of the needle package, remove the syringe cap and screw together.
Final wipe of the completed assembly. Get your torch lighter on standby.
Crack the PC open and pull out your jars. Set the PC away from the work area (don't touch ANYTHING else when you do)
Leave the foil on until you are ready to work with just that jar. After removing the foil, wipe the exterior of the jar and the lid in 91% iso.
Take out the needle, torch it until red hot, cool it with an alcohol wipe and leave it wrapped around as you move the needle to the jar.
Shoot it up making sure to get it directly in (you don't want to hit the sides of the lid, just in case)
You can torch the needle between injections if you wanna be super safe but at very least do it between jars.
That doesn't work for you, I'm at a loss.
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mushpunx
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^I dunno man I think its a lot easier to use an SAB than go to all that trouble man, but yea you can inoculate through a hole via syringe in open air without many problems, so long as you flame the needle, I know I inoculated this way for a long time without even glove 
Youre more likely to get a contamination from bacteria or whatnot in the syringe than a contam landing on the syringe between the time you flame it and inoculation. Of course you can eliminate that possiblity almost entirely by keeping the air still in an SAB
But this is probably the only thing you can reasonably get away without at least a still air box.
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TheEaglesGift
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ZeroBoyWD said: Ditch the still airbox. (PEACE BROTHERS! PEACE!)
Clean the shit outta your bathroom.
PC your substrate. Don't take it out.
When you are ready to work, shut the vent and douse the bathroom in lysol. Hit the baseboards and any seams, try to hit all the air space.
Bring your still closed pressure cooker into the bathroom.
Lock yourself in and don your mask and gloves and rub yourself down with 91% iso (hands and arms, wear long sleeves.
Wipe down your work area with 70% iso. Wipe down the PC. Next take your syringe (BEFORE you take out the needle) and wipe down with the Iso. Pay special attention to the cap on the tip. Wipe down the sealed container the needle is in.
Quickly open the end of the needle package, remove the syringe cap and screw together.
Final wipe of the completed assembly. Get your torch lighter on standby.
Crack the PC open and pull out your jars. Set the PC away from the work area (don't touch ANYTHING else when you do)
Leave the foil on until you are ready to work with just that jar. After removing the foil, wipe the exterior of the jar and the lid in 91% iso.
Take out the needle, torch it until red hot, cool it with an alcohol wipe and leave it wrapped around as you move the needle to the jar.
Shoot it up making sure to get it directly in (you don't want to hit the sides of the lid, just in case)
You can torch the needle between injections if you wanna be super safe but at very least do it between jars.
That doesn't work for you, I'm at a loss.
I'm not a fan of this technique at all.
Just use a Still Air Box.
For any new grower reading, a SAB is your best friend. Learn to use it and use it often.
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ZeroBoyWD
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You don't have to be a fan for it to work. I struggled with a still air box, found it very clunky and awkward. Plus you have to be more careful when flaming the needle and worry about melting plastic. I expected to see at least half my stock lost to contaminates but so far there is no evidence of any at all. Maybe I got lucky. Its highly possible that I applied this same method on all 10 jars and they all just happened to colonize with no issue.
I'm saying though, if he's having problems, why not try something different? Syringe $10 Rice $2 Verm $5
Really how much is he risking if he's been failing with a still air box. If he's switching over to pre sterilized bags he's spending more in the long run anyway, so may as well experiment. Plenty of people use this method without issue. Don't knock it till you try it folks
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