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More proof pubs just don't get it.
#21432210 - 03/19/15 04:57 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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NH Republicans deliver a rough message to 4th graders 03/19/15 04:50 PM—UPDATED 03/19/15 05:15 PM
By Steve Benen Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) got into a little trouble recently, not for making a series of false claims, but for telling a three-year-old New Hampshire girl her “world is on fire.” Even in 21st-century politics, there’s an expectation that when elected officials are delivering messages to children, they’ll show some restraint. As it turns out, she wasn’t the only kid in the Granite State last week hearing tough talk from Republican politicians. Fourth graders from Lincoln Akerman School in Hampton Falls received a warm welcome at the State House last Thursday. They and their teacher, James Cutting, were guests in the Gallery. That reception quickly turned chilly as students got a glimpse of the cold, harsh realities of politics in the Granite State. The idea seemed pretty straightforward. The fourth-grade class, made up of 9-and-10-year-olds from the Southeast corner of the state, worked on a proposal to make the Red Tail Hawk the official State Raptor of New Hampshire. The kids and their teacher brought their proposal to the state capitol, and it was approved by the Environment and Agriculture Committee. But as the report from NH1.com’s Shari Small makes clear, on the floor of the state House, the children ran into unexpectedly fierce Republican opposition. The kids heard one GOP lawmaker argue, for example, in reference to the Red Tail Hawk, “It grasps them with its talons then uses its razor sharp beak to basically tear it apart limb by limb, and I guess the shame about making this a state bird is it would serve as a much better mascot for Planned Parenthood.”
Those comments, from state Rep. Warren Groen (R), were apparently the harshest of the debate, but he wasn’t alone. In fact, the Republican-led New Hampshire state House killed the proposal from the 4th graders on a 133-to-160 vote. What better way to inspire young people about the vitality of American civic affairs than to have far-right politicians mock and defeat an innocuous bill written by children? Incidentally, if this sounds at all familiar, it’s because an interesting pattern is now emerging. We talked last year about a young student in South Carolina who wanted her state to designate an official state fossil, which ran into trouble when creationist lawmakers objected. Earlier this year, a teenager in Idaho asked lawmakers to designate the Idaho giant salamander as the official state amphibian. Republicans killed the proposal, fearing it might lead to environmental protections for the animal. And now, 4th graders from Lincoln Akerman School in Hampton Falls have run into similar trouble. I guess the lesson for young people is, in an era in which one of the major parties has moved in a rather extreme direction, the legislative process can be a little brutal?
At least Santa Claus is safe.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: sweeper54]
#21432361 - 03/19/15 05:29 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Link?
If a school class travels to a state legislature are the legislators supposed to act differently?
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: zappaisgod]
#21433235 - 03/19/15 08:16 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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4th graders in NH visit the state house, and I don't accept pub to act differentially.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: sweeper54]
#21435121 - 03/20/15 09:31 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lets not discuss the substance at all, and instead argue over whether legislators have the right to terrify children by drawing parallels between carnivores eviscerating prey and abortion.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21435550 - 03/20/15 12:07 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Amen
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21435592 - 03/20/15 12:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Then maybe the little shits shouldn't be there in the first place if aduult public debate is too scary for them.
Hawks are vicious killers, you know. So are owls, eagles and ospreys. Also cute little ferrets. They'd eat you liver while you're still breathing if they could.
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#21436042 - 03/20/15 02:41 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's nothing adult about ridiculous hyperbolic statements like the ones he made.
That's some shit I'd expect to hear in middle school.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: zappaisgod]
#21436844 - 03/20/15 06:11 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Then maybe the little shits shouldn't be there in the first place if adult public debate is too scary for them.
Dude let esplain it a little more better for you. "ITS PART OF THE 4TH GRADE CURRICULUM" They visit the state house, this class tried to add to their experience. It must have been prepared in advance with their rep. Even as backwoods as you may want to believe NH is, you can't show up with a bill you want present to the House and get it debated that day.
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Hawks are vicious killers, you know. So are owls, eagles and ospreys. Also cute little ferrets. They'd eat you liver while you're still breathing if they could.
That would be the "State Rapture" part of the bill.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: sweeper54]
#21437056 - 03/20/15 07:01 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Such dumbass arguments not to do the simplest things.
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What a great way to push a bill through. Let children push it and if it runs into opposition, it is because 'they' who opposed it hate children. Clever.
Maybe they should bus Children from across the country into DC, and then have those children present congress with the crudest, tackiest, crap-ass political agenda they possibly can, and then it will be impossible for them not to pass it because they will be blamed for being children haters. Kind of like no one can be against Obama because if they do they are racist.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: starfire_xes]
#21438489 - 03/21/15 06:11 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't even care about the kids. I care about the asinine arguments against bills that have essentially no effect on anything. Also the dumbass reasoning that shows republican disdain for science and the environment.
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clock_of_omens said: I don't even care about the kids. I care about the asinine arguments against bills that have essentially no effect on anything. Also the dumbass reasoning that shows republican disdain for science and the environment.
Yak yak yak....republicans...yak yak yak...stupid.....yak yak yak....deniers....yak yak yak....(put your favorite talking point or ad hominem attack against the person opposing your opinion here)
that's what I hear nowadays on this sub. You think you are politically sophisticated and intelligent but frankly you come across like some low-info progressive rube.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: starfire_xes]
#21438551 - 03/21/15 06:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol, way to obviously not read my post. Your conclusions do not at all follow from what I wrote. My conclusions on the other hand do follow from the things said by republican lawmakers.
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#21438557 - 03/21/15 07:04 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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clock_of_omens said: I don't even care about the kids. I care about the asinine arguments against bills that have essentially no effect on anything. Also the dumbass reasoning that shows republican disdain for science and the environment.
Yak yak yak....republicans...yak yak yak...stupid.....yak yak yak....deniers....yak yak yak....(put your favorite talking point or ad hominem attack against the person opposing your opinion here)
that's what I hear nowadays on this sub. You think you are politically sophisticated and intelligent but frankly you come across like some low-info progressive rube.
Also super lol.
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Yeah you'll get used to him, ironically probably the least "politically sophisticated" person in this sub.
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#21439114 - 03/21/15 11:31 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Yeah you'll get used to him, ironically probably the least "politically sophisticated" person in this sub.
look....up in the sub-forum...it's a turd....it's a plane....no....it's super moonbat!

Obviously, you've mistaken me or someone who gives a fuck.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: starfire_xes]
#21439234 - 03/21/15 11:59 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, it's plainly clear from your posts you don't care.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: starfire_xes]
#21440020 - 03/21/15 03:49 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree, pubs don't get it but neither do dems. They are both screwing us over. The only thing worse than gridlock is when they have "bipartisanship" which means the thieves have agreed on how to divvy up our money among themselves.
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Re: More proof pubs just don't get it. [Re: Stonehenge]
#21440216 - 03/21/15 04:48 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah, dems are pretty awful, too. Look at Hillary, ugh. But at least they have the decency to appear to be trying, whilst their GOP counterparts are throwing snowballs on the floor of the Senate and calling for the eradication of the federal minimum wage.
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#21440759 - 03/21/15 07:31 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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What kind of loser is concerned with federal minimum wage after the age of 18?
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