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Questions from a Newbeginner
    #21341825 - 02/28/15 07:56 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I have some questions regarding my before my first attempt on Golden Teacher.

So the method I have selected is the PF TEK, going to follow it to the dot.

1. What can i use for a flame that will be safe and cost effecting for the syringe and is safe

2. I will be creating an ideal space for them to live it and was wondering the importance of light with this 1. during the inoculation 2. during the incubation

3. I was reading somewhere something about pH is this something i need to worry about and monitor?

4. The air that is going into my space, should it be filtered air. I am in a basement and not sure the quality of air.

5. i will have to use a supply of heat to gain 10 degrees. I am currently sitting at an average room temperature of 70 degrees around the house. Any suggestions on possibly a heating blanket or alternative to heater blower.

6. How often should i be cleaning my space, and what are some safe cleaners that i can use with this process.

7. After the mushrooms have grown can they be trimmed then re-grow?

8. How do you tell if the myco you have grown is poisonous


Thanks AnEmEnA

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Re: Questions from a Newbeginner [Re: anemena]
    #21356376 - 03/03/15 01:11 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

You might be in the wrong section, should try the welcome section or cultivation. But i'l chip in my 2 cents:

1. Alcohol flame is recommended because it burns clean iirc but you could get away with anything. light, candle, stove if ur desperate.

2. Light is important. Not in a More light=More growth kinda way but shroomns have a cardiac rythm iirc. 12/12hr cycles of even a small light source will help. around 6500kelvin  (but double check that figure) it's close to natural light. You will notice healthier shrooms.

3. I've never bothered. PF tek is just verm in brf so you'll be fine.

4. Build a shotgun FC. Tub with holes stuffed loosely, they will filter debris whilst allowing gas exchange. Preferably clean the whole room.

5. they will fruit at lower temps 60~ but may take longer(which gives contams time too) and you'll get denser fruits. 70 is fine. I've grown them in colder regions. Don't apply heat to the FC, it could cause other issues.

6. Clean the whole basement with standard household products. Practice good general hygiene in the area but generally the highest risk of contam is due to poor sterilisation initially, injecting your spores or stuff drifting into the FC. Good practice at each stage will reduce risk, ie sterilise correctly, ensure clean spores and injection method then have polyfill in FC.

7. With Multi Spore injections there are so many different genetic mixes that the shrooms on the cake won't pin evenly. If you had an isolated genetic it would produce even flushes, but with small PF cakes done with MS you will get shrooms of random sizes at random times.  Harvest them just before the veil breaks (white ring layer under cap). At this point they are mature and there is no point letting them go futher. You can safely remove mature fruits by carefully cutting them off as low as possible with a sharp clean knife.

8. Check what a cube looks like. Once you start growing it becomes very obvious. But most importantly, use a sponsored vendor. Use anyone not from this site and you'll just get a 'told u so' when things go wrong. ie spores101 often ship the wrong mushrooms altogether.

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Re: Questions from a Newbeginner (moved) [Re: anemena]
    #21418822 - 03/17/15 12:44 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

This thread was moved from Shroomery University.

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Re: Questions from a Newbeginner (moved) [Re: Middleman]
    #21418879 - 03/17/15 01:02 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

1. Lighter. They're cheap and easy to find.

2. Light isn't required for inoculation - that is, the process of injecting spores to germinate or transferring mycelium whether it be by syringe, agar, lc, spore prints, etc. Though, you personally will need light to see what you're doing. If your temps in your area are comfortable for you, they're comfortable for the mycelium, no need to incubate. But while they're sitting and colonizing away they can benefit from light and help them to fruit better when light is again used during fruiting - according to RR. I use a 6500k daylight bulb on my shelf with jars to help expose the mycelium to light as well as add maybe a degree of heat to my closed of space.

3. Don't worry about that. It's more of a technicality as you get into advanced mycology and try to grow and or case PE and Copes/Pan Cyans. Even then it's not always necessary.

4. That's why there's all sorts of teks for using tyvek filters, SFDs, SHIP's, etc.. To both allow gas exchange and keep contams out. If you start out with a PF Tek, you're given an added layer of protection with the vermiculite.

5. I wouldn't recommend anything. Temps are ideal. If you do elect to do something, use a low powered space heater to raise the ambient temp in the room a few notches. But really, it's unneccesary and can be more harmful than helpful.

6. Other people can answer you, but I use a still air box to do most of my work, wiped down with 70% ISO alcohol. Gloves. Mask for breathing. And some people don't even use that with the still air box and still have great success. I clean before and after I touch something, just because I like to be diligently consistent about my methods. To each their own.

7. They can be trimmed or carefully picked. A flush is like a round of beautiful mushroom fruits. Once you've picked the substrate clean, some people elect to dunk in water (others don't), but provided there is no inhibiting contamination you should see more than one flush. I average about 4 solid flushes but I've had one grow where I flushed 6 times at a 5.5" substrate depth. It's not like a plant, this is mycology baby. Efficiency at a low cost. Best kept secret in town. :crazy2:

8. To lay any worry about this to rest - simply order from a trusted vendor. If by poisonous you mean contaminated, then there is a whole section dedicated to that issue alone. It will be fairly obvious. Not so much so if there is a look-a-like shroom that is actually poisonous.

Get it.


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