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American research therapeutic value of XTC
    #2132844 - 11/24/03 03:35 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

I saw this on the news today. can't find an english article, but maybe you can rn this one through a translate machine or something.
here's the dutch version:
see the english version in the post below. thatnks OctopusDr for translating!


Amerikanen testen 'therapeutische XTC'

LONDEN - Amerikaanse wetenschappers gaan onderzoeken of XTC een therapeutische werking heeft. Tijdens de proef, die in januari moet beginnen, krijgen mensen die lijden aan posttraumatische stress XTC. De verwachting is dat de partydrug zal helpen om traumatische ervaringen als verkrachtingen en aanrandingen in gesprekken met therapeuten beter te verwerken.

Volgens het Britse dagblad The Guardian, dat maandag berichtte over de proef, zullen twintig mensen aan de proef meedoen. Het gaat om personen die moeilijk kunnen praten over hun traumatische ervaringen. De Amerikaanse Food- and Drug Administration heeft het experiment al goedgekeurd. De narcoticabrigade DEA moet nog instemmen met het beschikbaar stellen van de XTC-tabletten. De verwachting is dat die dat nog dit jaar doet.

Het is niet de eerste keer dat de therapeutische werking van drugs wordt onderzocht of dat drugs voor dat doel worden toegediend. Nederland kent al medicinale cannabis. 'Alice DJ' is eerder gebruikt in omstreden therapeutische sessies met mensen die oorlogservaringen te verwerken hadden. De in 1997 overleden Nederlandse professor Jan Bastiaans werd beroemd danwel berucht met deze toepassing van de geestverruimende 'Alice DJ'.

R. Kersemakers van de Jellinek Kliniek in Amsterdam zegt dat XTC al eerder als medicijn is gebruikt. In de jaren '50 gebruikte de psychiatrie in de Verenigde Staten de werkzame stof om pati?nten communicatiever te maken. "Op een gegeven moment is XTC het laboratorium uitgekomen en op straat beland, waarna de handel begon", aldus Kersemakers. Hij zegt het Amerikaanse onderzoek niet te kennen, maar gaat er vanuit dat er gedegen onderzoek wordt gedaan naar dosering en bijwerkingen, zoals beschadiging van bepaalde zenuwen. "Dat gebeurt altijd bij dit soort onderzoeken. Voordat een dergelijk experiment kan beginnen, zijn er al heel wat stappen doorlopen."

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Re: American research therapeutic value of XTC (dutch article) [Re: stefan]
    #2133820 - 11/24/03 11:20 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Americans test ' therapeutic ECSTASY '

LONDON - American scientists will examine if ECSTASY has a therapeutic functioning. During the test, that in January must start, to get people who suffer from posttraumatische stress ECSTASY. The expectation is that the party drug will help traumatic experiences as verkrachtingen and improve assaults in conversations with therapeuten to process.

According to the British daily The Guardian, that Monday reported concerning the test, twenty people to the test will participate. It concerns persons who can talk with difficulty concerning their traumatic experiences. The American Food - and drug Administration have already approved experimenting. The narcotics squad DEA must agree still with available putting the ecstasy tablets. The expectation is that which that does year still this.

It is not the first time that the therapeutic functioning of drugs is examined if that drugs for that aim is administered. The Netherlands has already medicinal cannabis. ' Alice DJ ' have been rather used in controversial therapeutic sessions with people who had war experiences to come to terms with. In 1997, died Dutch professor Jan Bastiaans it was boasted or notoriously with this application of the geestverruimende ' Alice DJ '.

R. Kersemakers of the Jellinek clinic in Amsterdam say that ECSTASY already earlier if medecine has been used. In the fifties used psychiatry in the United States the operative substance to make patients more communicative. At a given moment ECSTASY the laboratory has ended up and has on the street ended up, whereupon the trade started, thus Kersemakers. He does not say the American know research, but goes from that there in-depth research is done there to dosering and bijwerkingen, such as damage of certain nerves. That always happens at this type examines. Before such an experimenting can start, a lot has already passed through steps.

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Re: American research therapeutic value of XTC (dutch article) [Re: OctopusDr]
    #2134481 - 11/25/03 09:07 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

That translated poorly.  :smile:

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Re: American research therapeutic value of XTC (dutch article) [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2134964 - 11/25/03 12:37 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Ecstasy may be used to help rape victims

US study to look at therapeutic value of dancefloor drug

David Adam, science correspondent
Monday November 24, 2003
The Guardian

Scientists in America are set to begin a controversial study to see if the dancefloor drug ecstasy could be used as a medicine to help people suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, the Guardian has learned.
In what will be the first trial of its kind, the researchers want to see if the emotional closeness reported by clubbers taking the drug can help victims of rape and sexual abuse talk to therapists.

Supporters of the study, which has been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration, claim it marks an important milestone in the medical rehabilitation of ecstasy or MDMA, which was given to patients by some alternative therapists in the 1970s and was only made illegal in the 1980s.

"What we'd like to do is develop MDMA into a prescription medicine," said Rick Doblin, the founder and head of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, which is coordinating and funding the new trial. "MDMA has a dramatic ability to help people express deeper emotions, to look at emotionally conflicted topics from their past and it promotes a certain catharsis."

The study could begin as soon as January. It will recruit 20 victims of crime suffering post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) who find it difficult to talk about their experience.

Over several months, each will receive 17 sessions of counselling with a therapist; before two sessions they will swallow a capsule containing either a placebo or 125mg of MDMA - about the same as or a little more than the amount found in a typical ecstasy tablet. The trial will be double-blind, meaning that neither the patients nor the investigators will know who has taken the drug. If the one-year pilot study proves a success, Mr Doblin says further research will follow.

Before considering ecstasy as a prescription drug for PTSD, the FDA would require convincing evidence of its benefits from two larger studies involving hundreds of people.

The research is controversial, and getting it off the ground has proved difficult. The FDA originally approved the study in November 2001 but insisted that Mr Doblin's group also get the green light from an independent ethics review board. These oversee research and are usually attached to universities. Applications to seven different boards were all rejected because of fears of legal action, experimental bias, or in some cases with no explanation at all. Permission was only finally granted in September.

One hurdle remains. The Drug Enforcement Administration has not yet issued the licence needed to handle the 3.5g of ecstasy for the trial to Michael Mithoefer, the South Carolina psychiatrist who will administer it. "My guess is that we'll get the approval before the end of the year," Mr Doblin said.

The dangers of ecstasy remain uncertain. This year, scientists at Johns Hopkins School of Medicine were forced to admit that a high-profile discovery that just one dose of MDMA could cause irreversible brain damage and even death was nonsense because they had used the wrong drug in their experiment.

But significant doubts remain over long-term risks: animal studies suggest that it can lower levels of the brain chemical serotonin and some anti-drugs campaigners and politicians have argued that research into the possible medical use of illegal drugs present a false reassuring messages about them.

Mr Doblin accepts that the drug carries risks, but insists they can be controlled. "Of course there are risks, but I do believe the risks are manageable," he said.

"We're excluding people with heart problems, excluding people with drug abuse problems and excluding people at major risk for suicide."

The biggest threat could be how people react if the drug helps them unbottle fears and anxieties, he said, and so all volunteers will be closely supervised. Professor John Henry, a drugs researcher at St Mary's Hospital in London and one of Britain's leading experts on ecstasy, welcomed the research. "It's a question of context and control," he said.

"So long as you use it for a very specific condition in controlled conditions as a scientist then I don't see any problem. I think it's good."

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Re: American research therapeutic value of XTC (dutch article) [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #2134972 - 11/25/03 12:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: American research therapeutic value of XTC (dutch article) [Re: MetaShroom]
    #2141886 - 11/28/03 09:58 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Why is the system so slow? There are so many things that people have been saying about drugs for decades and its still all 'getting looked into.' This is "new" news? Oh and look at all the "new" medical uses for pot that have been on yahoo lately. Wow what an advanced scientific society we live in now 'n' days. Constantly making new discoveries and finding helpful uses even for drugs! Without all these studies no one would know ecstacy makes you more open and talkative!

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