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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead]
    #21415535 - 03/16/15 11:40 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Why is there such an enormous gap between what humans are doing and what every other creature on this planet is doing? 

Elephants (much bigger)  and Dolphins (a little bigger) have bigger brains than we do yet we don't seem them building anything …


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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Sham87]
    #21415542 - 03/16/15 11:42 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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OP, what if God allowed all creatures to evolve into what we now know as those creatures.

It seems unlikely that all creatures came into existence out of the blue as creationist believe.

A great example of evolution in recent history would be the evolution of the computer.




Computers have always been around. Look around you. We are living in one. Only it is 4-bit coding instead of 2-bit.


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For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead]
    #21415548 - 03/16/15 11:44 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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OP, what if God allowed all creatures to evolve into what we now know as those creatures.

It seems unlikely that all creatures came into existence out of the blue as creationist believe.

A great example of evolution in recent history would be the evolution of the computer.




Computers have always been around. Look around you. We are living in one. Only it is 4-bit coding instead of 2-bit.



Did God create this computer? If so, where does the computer exist?

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: morrowasted]
    #21415553 - 03/16/15 11:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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OP, check out this article: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/433240/jewish/God.htm




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Think simple: You wake up in the morning and, even before coffee, there is. Reality. Existence. Not "the things that exist" but existence itself. The flow. The infinite flow of light and energy. Of being, of existence. Of is. Think of all that flow of singleness all in a single, perfectly simple point. Get into it, commune with it, speak to it, become one with it --that is G‑d.




This is a lie. This is the world. The only way to God is through Jesus Christ. This is a good article, save the fact that it is brainwashing. There are good points to be made but when you say to attache yourself to it and that it is God, this is indeed a lie. Connecting your soul with Christ is the only reality to get to Him.



Pray tell- how could this be true if the Hebrew people were expected to commune with God before Jesus had been sent...?




Sacrifice and what have you. I am not too big into the old testament save the part about origins and anything that validates the story of Christ. Like the Tribe of Dan sprinkling blood on the ark of the covenant speaking His same thousands of years before Christ was born. Or the book of Daniel that predicts Christ's Birth to the very day. As well as to the very day that the gentiles would be the chosen ones. The Jews had their chance. They had hundreds of years to praise Christ but they chose their own greed over Him. I have nothing against them personally. I am just stating facts...


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: morrowasted]
    #21415556 - 03/16/15 11:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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OP, what if God allowed all creatures to evolve into what we now know as those creatures.

It seems unlikely that all creatures came into existence out of the blue as creationist believe.

A great example of evolution in recent history would be the evolution of the computer.




Computers have always been around. Look around you. We are living in one. Only it is 4-bit coding instead of 2-bit.



Did God create this computer? If so, where does the computer exist?





C'mon dude...


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead]
    #21415559 - 03/16/15 11:47 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Sacrifice and what have you. I am not too big into the old testament save the part about origins and anything that validates the story of Christ. Like the Tribe of Dan sprinkling blood on the ark of the covenant speaking His same thousands of years before Christ was born. Or the book of Daniel that predicts Christ's Birth to the very day. As well as to the very day that the gentiles would be the chosen ones. The Jews had their chance. They had hundreds of years to praise Christ but they chose their own greed over Him. I have nothing against them personally. I am just stating facts...



So sacrifice is a way to commune with God, then?

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #21415560 - 03/16/15 11:48 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
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OP, what if God allowed all creatures to evolve into what we now know as those creatures.

It seems unlikely that all creatures came into existence out of the blue as creationist believe.

A great example of evolution in recent history would be the evolution of the computer.




Computers have always been around. Look around you. We are living in one. Only it is 4-bit coding instead of 2-bit.



Did God create this computer? If so, where does the computer exist?





C'mon dude...


No, you come on. I am using a computer right now. Are you talking about a literal computer, or are you talking about a computer analogy for the universe itself?

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: morrowasted]
    #21415567 - 03/16/15 11:49 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Sacrifice and what have you. I am not too big into the old testament save the part about origins and anything that validates the story of Christ. Like the Tribe of Dan sprinkling blood on the ark of the covenant speaking His same thousands of years before Christ was born. Or the book of Daniel that predicts Christ's Birth to the very day. As well as to the very day that the gentiles would be the chosen ones. The Jews had their chance. They had hundreds of years to praise Christ but they chose their own greed over Him. I have nothing against them personally. I am just stating facts...



So sacrifice is a way to commune with God, then?




You asked how they communed with God before Christ. We are done here if you are going to go full retard on me...


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead]
    #21415568 - 03/16/15 11:49 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Sacrifice and what have you. I am not too big into the old testament save the part about origins and anything that validates the story of Christ. Like the Tribe of Dan sprinkling blood on the ark of the covenant speaking His same thousands of years before Christ was born. Or the book of Daniel that predicts Christ's Birth to the very day. As well as to the very day that the gentiles would be the chosen ones. The Jews had their chance. They had hundreds of years to praise Christ but they chose their own greed over Him. I have nothing against them personally. I am just stating facts...




We are humans that create and twist religion to prepare the masses to be easily ruled and support militant nationalism.  It's just an effort to turn our beliefs into a team game … My team vs. your team.

There are not "groups" of believers that will get special rewards and no groups of non-believers that will be punished.  That is just propaganda nonsense. 

Religion is just another scheme to help a small percentage of the planet rule the masses and convince the masses to give them enormous wealth for their personal consumption.


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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21415572 - 03/16/15 11:51 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Shiithead said:

Sacrifice and what have you. I am not too big into the old testament save the part about origins and anything that validates the story of Christ. Like the Tribe of Dan sprinkling blood on the ark of the covenant speaking His same thousands of years before Christ was born. Or the book of Daniel that predicts Christ's Birth to the very day. As well as to the very day that the gentiles would be the chosen ones. The Jews had their chance. They had hundreds of years to praise Christ but they chose their own greed over Him. I have nothing against them personally. I am just stating facts...




We are humans that create and twist religion to prepare the masses to be easily ruled and support militant nationalism.  It's just an effort to turn our beliefs into a team game … My team vs. your team.

There are not "groups" of believers that will get special rewards and no groups of non-believers that will be punished.  That is just propaganda nonsense. 

Religion is just another scheme to help a small percentage of the planet rule the masses and convince the masses to give them enormous wealth for their personal consumption.




This is why I don't feel I have to go to church to be saved... This is also why people confuse Christ with religion. He is not a religion... He spoke ill about religion Himself. The only door to God is through Him. Anything else is of this world...


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead]
    #21415577 - 03/16/15 11:53 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Did the Jews before Christ go to Heaven or did they go to Hell?

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: D.M.T]
    #21415581 - 03/16/15 11:53 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Did the Jews before Christ go to Heaven or did they go to Hell?




If I'm not mistaken they went to paradise.


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #21415582 - 03/16/15 11:54 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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This is why I don't feel I have to go to church to be saved... This is also why people confuse Christ with religion. He is not a religion... He spoke ill about religion Himself. The only door to God is through Him. Anything else is of this world...




If the gateway to the spiritual experience is on the inside … through the heart and into the spirit, then it's valid.  If it's on the outside through some kind of scriptural text or church approved process, it's false.


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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: D.M.T] * 2
    #21415587 - 03/16/15 11:55 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Did the Jews before Christ go to Heaven or did they go to Hell?




hell, obviously. every living being , animals and humans, all went to hell before mary shit our savior out her cunt. and im pretty sure all animals still all go hell according to doctrine

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: D.M.T]
    #21415589 - 03/16/15 11:56 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Did the Jews before Christ go to Heaven or did they go to Hell?




Jews are waiting for the coming of the "real messiah" … those that die before he comes are kind of in a holding pattern till he gets here and opens up the new heaven amusement park.


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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: KauaiOrca]
    #21415593 - 03/16/15 11:57 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Shiithead said:

This is why I don't feel I have to go to church to be saved... This is also why people confuse Christ with religion. He is not a religion... He spoke ill about religion Himself. The only door to God is through Him. Anything else is of this world...




If the gateway to the spiritual experience is on the inside … through the heart and into the spirit, then it's valid.  If it's on the outside through some kind of scriptural text or church approved process, it's false.




Words are words. You have to attache yourself or create a reality worth living in. I choose to create a reality in which God created me in His Image that would allow me to create realities. In the reality I create, I create Him and so on. It is the ultimate way to give back to the Creator. If you create a reality which is of this world, it will decay away with the world.


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Edited by Shiithead (03/16/15 12:06 PM)

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead]
    #21415634 - 03/16/15 12:09 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Sacrifice and what have you. I am not too big into the old testament save the part about origins and anything that validates the story of Christ. Like the Tribe of Dan sprinkling blood on the ark of the covenant speaking His same thousands of years before Christ was born. Or the book of Daniel that predicts Christ's Birth to the very day. As well as to the very day that the gentiles would be the chosen ones. The Jews had their chance. They had hundreds of years to praise Christ but they chose their own greed over Him. I have nothing against them personally. I am just stating facts...



So sacrifice is a way to commune with God, then?




You asked how they communed with God before Christ. We are done here if you are going to go full retard on me...



Why did God wait to send Jesus if he knew the Jews were never going to live up to their need to sacrifice in order to redeem themselves for their sins? Let me guess- it was part of the plan? It had nothing to do with, say, the fact that neoPlatonism was popular around the time of Jesus, and that Christianity is essentially Hebraic NeoPlatonism?

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: morrowasted]
    #21415649 - 03/16/15 12:13 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I am not God and cannot answer that question. Like I said, I don't read The Bible for religious purposes. But rather to understand the world better through it, since it is a book of accurately recorded events. I don't have all the answers. I am not God.


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: Shiithead]
    #21415669 - 03/16/15 12:17 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

But I mean, can't you say that about any question? Why would God give us the ability to question what God does, and the ability to be rational and come to likely conclusions, if he did not want us to use those abilities? It's as absurd as expecting Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil, before they had the knowledge of Good and Evil. How were they supposed to know that disobeying God was evil?

Did you know that the word evil was invented by the Jews?

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Re: Evolution is a lie?? [Re: morrowasted]
    #21415691 - 03/16/15 12:23 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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But I mean, can't you say that about any question? Why would God give us the ability to question what God does, and the ability to be rational and come to likely conclusions, if he did not want us to use those abilities? It's as absurd as expecting Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit of the knowledge of Good and Evil, before they had the knowledge of Good and Evil. How were they supposed to know that disobeying God was evil?





Wisdom > Knowledge...

It is a reoccurring theme in the modern day world. Scientists are splicing dna of pigs and humans and what not. It is fucked up. Perversion. Just because we have the knowledge of something doesn't mean we should do it. I know what crack does to people. And I know where to get it... Doesn't mean I should use it..


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Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Revelation 3:11
Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

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