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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: koods] * 1
    #21410183 - 03/15/15 06:09 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

:doublefacepalm:

Are we still having this gender battle? Holy shit, it's like I never left elementary school. "Boys rule, girls drool" or vice versa is the vibe I get from these threads. Yes, the feminists need to shut up and are incredibly annoying, but so are these men using it as an excuse for everything.

"I can't get a girlfriend because the feminist media"

"I can't get a job because the feminist media"

Maybe the reason you can't get a girlfriend or a job is because you're a whiny little bitch. I'm not defending feminists here because they ARE extremely annoying, irritating and idiotic people, but come on, they can't possibly affect your lives that much, I think people just love having something to bitch about.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #21410276 - 03/15/15 07:07 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So does that free me to talk shit about feminism since I have a job and a girlfriend?
Maybe I missed it but did someone in here actually say that? Or are you just bitching about bitching.


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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #21410306 - 03/15/15 07:18 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

You've been free to talk shit about feminism from the start. I do see a lot of dudes on here that really think it's holding them back that much in life, which I think is ridiculous. Feminists are annoying and idiotic but that's all they are, I really don't think they're intelligent enough to make much of a difference.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #21410325 - 03/15/15 07:30 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Some of us don't have families because of it though man, some have been affected while others have not. Decades of this shit has started to cause harm. 50+% of American's are single, misandry runs rampant and is widely accepted in our universities, and it's taught most of an entire generation of girls to be nothing but victims.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Rustifer]
    #21410347 - 03/15/15 07:39 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Hey I'm not defending feminists here, I can't stand them, I just don't see the impact. I could be wrong, maybe it just hasn't impacted me personally.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #21410359 - 03/15/15 07:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah yeah I understand that, I was just trying to point out some of the impact and that you probably just haven't had to deal with it, yet.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Peace of Mind 1] * 1
    #21410379 - 03/15/15 07:55 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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peace of mind 1 said:
Hey I'm not defending feminists here, I can't stand them, I just don't see the impact. I could be wrong, maybe it just hasn't impacted me personally.



The skyrocketing divorce rates are the impact. Female favoritism in the legal and corporate system are the impact.


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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: MoxyOx]
    #21410528 - 03/15/15 08:57 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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MoxyOx said:


Perspective is everything.



Fucking spare me your bullshit.  No woman in Western culture is forced to wear a bikini.


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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Rustifer]
    #21410551 - 03/15/15 09:05 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Rustifer said:
Some of us don't have families because of it though man, some have been affected while others have not. Decades of this shit has started to cause harm. 50+% of American's are single, misandry runs rampant and is widely accepted in our universities, and it's taught most of an entire generation of girls to be nothing but victims.




Very true, the liberal education system is guilty of promoting this crap as is the media.

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>The skyrocketing divorce rates are the impact. Female favoritism in the legal and corporate system are the impact.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21411930 - 03/15/15 03:30 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I realize that women are oppressed in the Middle East.  Honestly you guys are typing circles around me I can't keep up with all this, I only have so much time unfortunately.

Yes, I realize that many Islamic states oppress women on a grand scale, for me this is even more of a reason to recognize and respect the string feminist movements that come out of there.  Yes, they are probably different from American feminists.  There are even feminists that agree with the hijab or head scarf policies.  They don't all agree, but the point is that women are systematically oppressed and both women and men are working, fighting, and dying over there to change things for the better.

So to me you guys are yet again spouting shit that conflicts with the basic premise of what I think you're trying to say.  Modern feminism is a crock, yet the places where it is needed most do not need feminism they just need ????  America?  Ayn Rand?  A dick in the butt?  Idonno sounds like a bunch of whining with zero potential solutions offered.  I wish I could say I was surprised.

It really seems as if some people are incapable of looking at the big picture.  They have the little handbook of their ideals and then they just go out and take one issue on at a time rather than growing and changing as they learn.  "Have an ideal geared to social equality?  Shut up SJW that issue has been resolved all we care about it protecting corporate interests and stomping Islam back into oblivion now."  Or whatever small minded scheme they have been lead into.

I'll say it again because I think it is important.  There is nothing wrong with striving for human equality, in fact it has provided us with a better world than once was.  You can't point to America as an example of achievement and totally ignore the civil rights movement without looking like you're willfully ignorant.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21411977 - 03/15/15 03:44 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Bitch you wasn't with me shooting in the gym

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21412402 - 03/15/15 05:46 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

My bullshit smells better than your bullshit. Wanna keep going with this pissing contest? Because that's all it is at this point.


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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #21413424 - 03/15/15 09:27 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

peace of mind 1 said:
Hey I'm not defending feminists here, I can't stand them, I just don't see the impact. I could be wrong, maybe it just hasn't impacted me personally.




"I don't see the impact"

That's just because you're not looking.

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/10/two-teens-have-sex-neither-could-legally

"boy gets felony charge"

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Peace of Mind 1]
    #21414228 - 03/16/15 12:34 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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peace of mind 1 said:
You've been free to talk shit about feminism from the start. I do see a lot of dudes on here that really think it's holding them back that much in life, which I think is ridiculous. Feminists are annoying and idiotic but that's all they are, I really don't think they're intelligent enough to make much of a difference.




It's holding back SOCIETY

Here.. educated yourself on what great actions modern feminism has done for us:
https://web.archive.org/web/20150216065321/http://feminists-please-stop.tumblr.com/post/108095542707/what-are-exactly-the-actions-of-modern-feminists


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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #21414274 - 03/16/15 12:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I love how that link basically says at the top basically says that he is some insecure dude on an anti-SJW crusade and willing to cater to a specific audience to get a following.  He probably got a girlfriend and ended his crusade :lol:, which is why it is on a wayback mirror.

I mean I never got the whole anti-SJW thing.  It is like saying "my cause is the anti-cause" because you're some edgy hipster and want to stand out based on your opinions.  I can dig laughing at deranged people on the internet, even feminists, but when someone tries to imply that every modern feminist is like that :justno:

If you want to go on a crusade against people who take things too far you have your work cut out for you, but if you looked at yourself you might realize that other than the cause you are doing the exact same thing by trying to slander them.  Anti-SJWs are SJWs too, they just have a really immature concept of what is a just cause.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21414309 - 03/16/15 12:55 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I like how you didn't read any of the links.


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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Shroomism]
    #21414375 - 03/16/15 01:19 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I did actually.  All I'm saying that if we're going to have a debate on modern feminism we're going to need more than that to form what I'd call a balanced perspective.  I mean everything is a crock of shit if you look at it from the right angle.

Let's take the first one: leads to a wiki on Erin Prizzey who was a feminist who criticized and was critized by others in the feminist movement.  And?  I'm sure she would agree that feminism is still necessary and good.

Second one: broken video

Third one:  broken video, it seems as if they are trying to take a work of fiction by a feminist group and make it into a death threat because they used offensive symbolism

Fourth one:  "Feminist attacks male cartoonist and is hailed a hero of feminism." leads to a wiki bio of Valerie Solanas who was a radical feminist who attempted to murder Andy Warhol who is a little more than a "cartoonist" :smirk: and not really exactly a conservative icon.

Fifth one:  Shaky video of feminists getting riled up for some muffled stuff we can't even here, they are women though so it must just be a bunch of feminists on their periods amiriteguys :rolleyes:

Shall I continue?  This is actually kinda fun.  I guess on second thought he probably got it taken down because he got tired of people calling him on his BS.

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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21414563 - 03/16/15 04:08 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Wow.

If you want to offer a more balanced perspective, I'd love to see a list of all the great and wonderful things modern feminism is doing to advance our society as a whole human race.

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I mean everything is a crock of shit if you look at it from the right angle.



Are you saying everything on that list is a crock of shit from the right angle? Yes it appears you are. Let's examine that in more detail shall we?

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Let's take the first one: leads to a wiki on Erin Prizzey who was a feminist who criticized and was critized by others in the feminist movement.  And?  I'm sure she would agree that feminism is still necessary and good.



You must have missed or glossed over the part (in the first two sentences) where she received many death threats by feminists for saying men need abuse shelters too, not just women.

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Pizzey has been the subject of death threats and boycotts because of her research into the claim that most domestic violence is reciprocal, and that women are equally capable of violence as men. Pizzey has said that the threats were from militant feminists.




Also you must have missed this part:
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Pizzey said in 2009 that she has "never been a feminist, because, having experienced my mother's violence, I always knew that women can be as vicious and irresponsible as men".
In 2013 she joined the editorial and advisory board of the men's rights organization A Voice for Men (serving as an Editor and DV Policy Advisor) and from January to August wrote thirteen articles for the group's web site




So wrong on all counts. She was very critical of feminism, distanced herself from it very early on due to so many extremists, never claimed to be a feminist and is a men's right activist as well.
She was a human being that cared about all humans, not some psycho feminist.

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Second one: broken video



It's broken because it's archived. You have to copy and paste the youtube link.
Feminists call men's right groups a hate group and crash and then prevent a meeting about male suicide


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Third one:  broken video, it seems as if they are trying to take a work of fiction by a feminist group and make it into a death threat because they used offensive symbolism



They were advocating murder of men. SCUM stand for Society for Cutting Up Men.
http://www.whyileftsweden.com/?p=311
https://web.archive.org/web/20140215124555/http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/activism/1000-bounty-to-identify-swedish-scum-members/
Here's the video


Yeah, so fucking harmless right?
What do you think would happen if men made a video "faking" the shooting an innocent female in the head, laughing and dancing and playing music, and licking the blood of the head?

Here's another one they made, where they threateningly brandish weapons and ski masks, and clearly recite the names of 14 different Swedish men.. not threatening at all right? Just offensive symbolism.. right?


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Fourth one:  "Feminist attacks male cartoonist and is hailed a hero of feminism." leads to a wiki bio of Valerie Solanas who was a radical feminist who attempted to murder Andy Warhol who is a little more than a "cartoonist" :smirk: and not really exactly a conservative icon.




Who said anything about a conservative icon? And what the fuck difference does that make? What kind of argument is that?
She attempted to murder Andy Warhol and then was hailed as a hero of feminism.
She also advocated "elimination of the male sex" and is responsible for SCUM's existence.


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Fifth one:  Shaky video of feminists getting riled up for some muffled stuff we can't even here, they are women though so it must just be a bunch of feminists on their periods amiriteguys :rolleyes:



*hear
And who the fuck said anything about periods? Nice strawman attempt though.



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Men's activists hold a public forum to discuss the possibility of giving male victims of domestic violence some of the social services that are currently only available to female victims. Feminists, who strongly oppose any recognition of male victims of abuse, disrupt the forum and try to shut it down. They oppose free and open discussion of gender issues.

The conference was held in Ottawa, Canada six or seven years ago. It was organized by two fathers' groups in Ottawa. The keynote speaker was Canadian Senator Anne Cools. You can easily find information about her on the web.

She has been a radical feminist and in 1974 she founded one of the first shelters for abused women in Canada. In the 1990s she changed her views and became a vocal defender of fathers and has campaigned for greater access between children and fathers after divorce. She is also a strong advocate for battered husbands and that was the topic of her speech at the conference (Family Violence). She still has a seat in the Canadian Senate.

In total there were eight videos of the feminists disrupting the conference, but I picked the second one as being most representative. In the end, the feminists, cursing and spitting, were removed by security.




There's 7 other videos of it, if it's "too shaky" or muffled for you. I understand it's hard to hear exactly what's going on, with all the psycho feminists screaming.

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Shall I continue?  This is actually kinda fun.




yes... PLEASE, please do. It only gets better. I will enjoy dissecting your weak arguments trying to justify insanity.

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I guess on second thought he probably got it taken down because he got tired of people calling him on his BS.




tumblr actually deleted it, probably got reported by a bunch of tumblrina feminazis. They don't take kindly to anti-feminism. They love anti-men's rights though. Thanks for the waybackmachine though.
BS? It's all facts son.

This is the face of modern feminism. These are their actions. Please, continue down the list. It goes much much further than five.

Feminism was necessary ~60-70 years ago. Today? It's become metastasis cancer for the most part.
In the first world, men and women are pretty much equal.
But go ahead and talk about the non-existent wage gap and "rape culture" so I can tear that to shreds.

Also, whatever you do.. DO NOT watch these videos. They might crush your undying support for feminism.
http://www.daddys-sverige.com/3/post/2011/03/the-truth-about-swedish-feminism-do-not-watch-this-film.html

And for anyone who thinks feminism doesn't hold a major sway in politics, law and modern society :rofl:


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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Shroomism]
    #21414729 - 03/16/15 06:44 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Your the man shroomism!


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Re: Modern Feminism is a crock of shit. [Re: Shroomism]
    #21414756 - 03/16/15 07:06 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Shroomism said:
In the first world, men and women are pretty much equal.



The first world in another star system? There's nowhere on Earth that isn't controlled by the patriarchal dominator culture. This planet is hell because most people accept it and allow it to continue. In this case some bullshit economic figures are being used to justify the ignorant statement that's generally taken as truth via the consensus fallacy.

Overcoming patriarchy involves eliminating gender roles which isn't going to happen while most people think there is an intellectual/psychological difference between the sexes. It's programmed in by society and culture, which is why the media are filled with misogynist content. Even "first world" culture objectifies and degrades females in music, film, TV, social media, every source of memes propagated through society.

Feminism isn't having the desired effect because the movement is too small and fragmented.


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