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Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)?
    #21401241 - 03/13/15 07:56 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I read this article: http://reset.me/story/highly-sensitive-person-need-know-science-personality-type/

& took the test: http://hsperson.com/test/highly-sensitive-test/ (For the test I checked every single one.
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I am wondering if there's anyone else out there who identifies with what's written in this article, and what others think of the science??

If this really is a thing, then I strongly identify with being a HSP, myself. It kind of elucidates a lot of the struggles I've gone through in my life, and makes me feel not so crazy about some of my quirks/idiosynchracies. It's something my therapist & I actually spent a great deal of time exploring when I was in therapy last fall, and learning how to work with, instead of against my sensitivities has changed my life...


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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: yogabunny]
    #21401304 - 03/13/15 08:18 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I am too. I got a 16 on that thing.

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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21401367 - 03/13/15 08:49 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

How does that manifest for you?

The earliest signs I can remember were when I was 3-4 years old at the fireworks. All the other kids were like "oooh ahhh pretty lights", and I was hiding under my mom's legs crying and holding my ears because of the sounds. Also at birthday parties if a balloon popped, that would also make me cry.

To this day I cannot function well in a time crunch or in a rush. I get up early enough pretty much every day to have at least 3 hours to myself before starting my day. I can't watch scary movies. I am still recovering from watching "Black Swan" by myself 4 years ago. :lol:

My body is also extremely food sensitive as well. This is kind of a blessing, because it forces me to eat a pretty insanely healthy diet; but I sometimes wish I had a more robust digestive system....


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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: yogabunny]
    #21401430 - 03/13/15 09:18 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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The candidate gene was a variation in the serotonin transporter gene, what is called the short-short variation, which refers to two short alleles, as opposed to one short and one long, or two longs. The short-short variation had been inconsistently associated with depression and other problems. It was seen as creating vulnerability. But many people with this genetic variation are not depressed, so researchers began to question their understanding of it, and found in numerous studies that it actually bestows many advantages. It only caused trouble when carriers had had a stressful or unsupportive childhood, or else, in some cases, were immersed in stressful life events.




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This led, along with some other studies, to the whole subject of what is called differential susceptibility. People with this gene, or with certain behaviors, such as cautiousness or physical or emotional reactivity — all signs of sensitivity — do better than others in good environments and worse than others in bad ones.




Yeah, this applies.  I scored 21 on the test.  Throughout my life I've always excelled beyond expectations when in positive environments, and quickly washed out or deteriorated in negative ones.  I had a mixed childhood filled with abusive traumas interspersed with periods of relative peace.  Today the treatment is for bipolar II, and without medications I cannot function at this time. 

These realities are a major component of my interest in tianeptine.  Tianeptine may actually have the astounding property of being able to reverse the damaging neurological impacts of traumatic stress:

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Tianeptine is neuroprotective via multiple neurochemical and cellular mechanisms. When an organism is under stress, or perceives itself under stress, the hypothalamus secretes corticotropin-releasing hormone/factor (CRH/CRF). CRH/CRF in turn increases secretion of adrenocorticotrophic hormone (ACTH) from the anterior pituitary. ACTH in turn stimulates the release of glucocorticoids from the adrenal cortex. Persistent, uncontrolled physical and psychosocial stress causes excess cortisol secretion from the adrenal glands. Excess cortisol causes dendritic shrinkage in the hippocampus and a contrasting growth of dendrites in the lateral amygdala. These stress-induced changes tend to lower mood; they can cause clinical depression in the genetically vulnerable. Current evidence suggests that tianeptine acts to prevent and even reverse stress-induced neural damage, promoting both neuronal survival and synaptic plasticity.




I would do just about anything to access to a year's supply of tianeptine, and am even considering trying to make my way over to Europe or South America to accomplish exactly that, since the money-grubbing bastards are blocking its appearance on the North American market.  The medications I am taking now (mirtazapine and quetiapine), while tremendously effective in my case, are ultimately unsustainable.  Particularly with quetiapine, the risk of adverse effects increases with the duration of therapy, and the longer I'm on it the more urgent it becomes to get off it.  There is a ticking clock there, and right now my only alternatives are rather offensive medications like lithium or carbamazepine.  These are not attractive by any means.  Tianeptine offers a medium-term therapy which may actually be curative in nature, provided it is combined with psychotherapy and consistently positive external supports.


>> How does that manifest for you?

As a child the first sign was my profound empathetic capacity.  Observing others suffering mistreatment would have a high impact on me, and I couldn't bear to watch it on TV, in movies, or on the playground.  It became clear at a very young age that this distinguished me from the other kids, who seemed alien to me for this and numerous other reasons.  This contributed to a feeling of isolation that's still with me to this day.


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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: Ped]
    #21401499 - 03/13/15 09:42 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Oh, cool, I'm glad you mentioned Tianeptine. I asked you about it in another thread, but there was a lot going on so you might have missed it.

My boyfriend had great success using Tianeptine in therapeutic doses for a depressive bout last Spring. I personally enjoyed slightly stronger doses recreationally.

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As a child the first sign was my profound empathetic capacity.  Observing others suffering mistreatment would have a high impact on me, and I couldn't bear to watch it on TV, in movies, or on the playground.  It became clear at a very young age that this distinguished me from the other kids, who seemed alien to me for this and numerous other reasons.  This contributed to a feeling of isolation that's still with me to this day.




Totally connect with this as well.


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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: Ped]
    #21401511 - 03/13/15 09:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

When they mutilated me and tortured me at birth on a hot summer day, it reduced my sensitivity by quite a bit.  This in more ways than one.  I became both hypersensitive, and insensitive at the same time. 

When people know they can bully you, they pretty much bully you.  Way back when they pretty much got away with it too.

Nowadays men are still told to be tough yet expected to be sensitive to a woman and her higher levels of emotional whatever.  The fact that we see the mutilation continue in this country essentially unchallenged tells you what the world thinks of sensitive men.  Cut them off early, and often.  Toughen those pricks up.

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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: yogabunny]
    #21402106 - 03/13/15 12:47 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: yogabunny]
    #21403174 - 03/13/15 05:22 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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yogabunny said:
How does that manifest for you?




Well, like you I don't care for loud music and bright lights. I tend to be reclusive and pretty quiet. But I'm okay with this though.

Edited by Le_Canard (03/14/15 03:52 PM)

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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: Le_Canard]
    #21403739 - 03/13/15 08:12 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Interesting. I scored 24 on that.

I am without a doubt "sensitive person" and would have admitted it without taking that test. I am very sensitive in these ways:

  • Lighting
  • Positioning (I will always position myself on the perimeter of a space, with my back against the wall, or a tree or something...)
  • I am deeply moved by art (especially music, and movies with complex themes)
  • I am very aware of everything going around me at all times (to the point where i need near absolute silence/stillness to focus)
  • Small disruptions in my routine drastically disrupt my ability to sleep and general feelings of wellbeing.
  • I need time to mentally prepare for something which is out of my comfort zone, which is interesting considering that I am also exceedingly adventurous.
  • I feel violated/contaminated by being excessively exposed to advertising.
  • I need to recharge alone, when over stimulated and become overstimulated easily.
  • Additionally, day light/natural light/gloomy weather, and temperature all impact me greatly.
  • etc...


It's actually really interesting to consider this. I feel like these traits add more to life then they take away, and am quite content with how I am.

Typing this out though really helped illustrate one of the primary reasons my recent long term relationship didn't work out.


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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: Ped]
    #21404852 - 03/14/15 04:02 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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I would do just about anything to access to a year's supply of tianeptine, and am even considering trying to make my way over to Europe or South America to accomplish exactly that, since the money-grubbing bastards are blocking its appearance on the North American market.  The medications I am taking now (mirtazapine and quetiapine), while tremendously effective in my case, are ultimately unsustainable.  Particularly with quetiapine, the risk of adverse effects increases with the duration of therapy, and the longer I'm on it the more urgent it becomes to get off it.  There is a ticking clock there, and right now my only alternatives are rather offensive medications like lithium or carbamazepine.  These are not attractive by any means.  Tianeptine offers a medium-term therapy which may actually be curative in nature, provided it is combined with psychotherapy and consistently positive external supports.







Now that's easy. Don't book a flight, as they will fly right into your mailbox.
German health care system to the rescue :cookiemonster:

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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: PDU] * 2
    #21404885 - 03/14/15 04:34 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Interesting. I scored 24 on that.


It's actually really interesting to consider this. I feel like these traits add more to life then they take away, and am quite content with how I am.





After a lifetime of being told "you're so sensitive", "you're too sensitive", "stop being so sensitive" etc; It took me a good 3 months of therapy to come the conclusion that being highly sensitive is actually a gift in this life.....


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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: yogabunny]
    #21405600 - 03/14/15 10:01 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think others would perceive as sensitive, but rather as particular.


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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: yogabunny]
    #21405650 - 03/14/15 10:17 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

>> After a lifetime of being told "you're so sensitive", "you're too sensitive", "stop being so sensitive"

"You'll grow out of it eventually."

"Be a man."


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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: Ped] * 2
    #21406156 - 03/14/15 12:46 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I only did not check like 3-4 of the boxes. Its funny because a lot of people tell me that I look like i'm always super chilled out and relaxed but I think the reason is because after so many years i've had to develop ways to deal with the sensitivity.

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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: Nova]
    #21406579 - 03/14/15 01:45 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

that Tianeptine literature looks very promising, Ped.

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Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: PDU]
    #21407738 - 03/14/15 03:53 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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  • I am deeply moved by art (especially music, and movies with complex themes)

  • I need time to mentally prepare for something which is out of my comfort zone, which is interesting considering that I am also exceedingly adventurous.

  • I need to recharge alone, when over stimulated and become overstimulated easily.
  • Additionally, day light/natural light/gloomy weather, and temperature all impact me greatly.
  • etc...
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  • Yep, these same things apply to me too.

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    Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: yogabunny]
        #21409474 - 03/15/15 12:11 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

    :mushroom2:

    Edited by birdeatingspider (03/15/15 07:47 AM)

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    Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: birdeatingspider]
        #21410358 - 03/15/15 07:45 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

    Please bear with me as I'm real happy to have people to talk to about this but am riding on that excitement and no sleep (Which you should know is vital!). 

    Hoping to engage in good conversation all around but for now will stay on point to OP:

    Wholeheartedly identify with you and in my typical backwards science went through everything short of a brain scan before it was confirmed.  By the time I received a nod from conventional medicine I had suffered maladies of the body, soul, and mind- which is such a shame that I was shamedinstead of supported by those I trusted and depended on, but it is just that. 

    The take away I gained was that you need to find what works for your body,
    makes sense to mind, and soothes your soul:  If you want a diagnosis go to a Westernized, conventional doctor.  If its a cure you MUST have, connect with your Divine.

    Life seems easier for others, but that ol' saying the God(ess), the Universe only gives you what you can handle... Once you find the outlets that make your Being hum with Purpose, you have found the path you were sent here to obtain!

    As mentioned I didn't have anyone to get me growing up, and this presented very young..

    My mother and I have early childhood memories that seemed distinct but personally that defining moment was after returning from a cross country family trip to all of the state parks.
    As soon as we got home my parents sat me down and explained that a girl I knew and looked up to was hit and killed by a drunk driver.  They waited all summer to tell me so as not to spoil the trip.
    All I can remember is walking away without a question and sitting on the front porch and staring at this beautiful setting sky and not even crying, just having this sorrow surge up in me as I kind of accepted the truth and almost thought, 'Is that so'. 
    I was super little and after that things were just different in how I handled myself in the world around me, was just me and the natural world without family guidance after that.

    Won't get into a life story ha, but will share the facts-
    Always had an affinity for animals, nature, and imagination. 
    Aversion to man made structures, bright lights, loud sounds.  Food allergies, 'invisible' illnesses.
    Kept to being best alone or with just one or two close friends growing up and to this day.  Forever grateful to have my dog wish she came sooner but all in due time!
    Very psychic, thoughts do manifest, telekinesis, etc.

    I've spent a lot of years of my life moving just to uproot myself and go searching again, wasted many dollars and have some stress and anxiety to show for it.  I'd leave it at last thought if it didn't come with the slew of nasty habits and engrained conditioning I to date must constantly combat.  On a few pharmaceuticals I wish I never gave a home because it's so hard to escape and like Ped, I feel as though my time is running out.

    The self discovery came with a 'soothsayer' calling me an Indigo Child(The irony being that today is the ides of march, but it's never just irony anymore).  Then from there healer, empath, warrior of light, HSP... they are just the favorable titles I acquired before with the 'clinical' labels I accepted I just am.. not the first or last, either!

    These days I'm truly a product of Nature vs. Nurture, there is this innate fear in me that by having a rescued wolfdog I've finally come to accept outside of my subjective reality.


    Here to talk and listen, thank you for allowing me to share.. In my experience one of the gems in life is just knowing you're not alone-

    World may not be build for us but there's work to be done!:heart:


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    Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: birdeatingspider]
        #21410805 - 03/15/15 10:21 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

    Super interesting!

    In September I did a a couple sessions with a life coach before finding my therapist. I would have continued working with the life coach but she was too expensive, and I wanted to work with someone face to face.

    Anyway I found the life coach through these articles:

    http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-11275/in-defense-of-highly-sensitive-people.html

    http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-11376/8-tools-to-thrive-as-a-highly-sensitive-person.html

    http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-17261/how-highly-sensitive-people-can-learn-to-empower-themselves.html

    http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-14965/are-you-a-highly-sensitive-person-heres-how-to-protect-your-energy.html

    http://www.mindbodygreen.com/0-12751/are-you-highly-sensitive-read-this.html


    I felt like she was speaking directly TOO me, I mean my experiences have been so similar to hers, I felt like we were the same person :lol:

    In our first phone call she suggested that I was an "Indigo Child". The rational in me finds the concept super woo-woo and silly, but there is no denying that I pretty much relate to everything that describes an "Indigo Child". God, I feel silly even saying it, but yeah, between that and my work with my therapist I was really able to start owning my sensitivity. I've developed certain mantras/prayers/shielding techniques that help me stay grounded even when the feels are SUPER strong.


    Do you all feel like as a highly sensitive person that you're also an introvert in the sense that you like to be alone to recharge your batteries, so to speak?


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    Re: Are you a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)? [Re: yogabunny]
        #21412310 - 03/15/15 05:26 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

    Yeah, I scored 25 or 26 on that test a while ago. You should try and find her book (or better yet, audio book), it pretty much changed the way I look at my life.

    Also, cant wait for the movie, I think its coming out sometime this or next month.

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