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Re: Kundalini [Re: leery11]
#21400667 - 03/13/15 02:15 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I wonder if you are too emphatic on the importance of a brain, the body is a consciousness system, for example a yoga pose to open the root chakra will stimulate the sex glands or whatnot, yes the brain is key , the pineal and pituitary are master glands for sure, and the brain my be responsible for our experience of consciousness interacting with a body.
Good Post. I agree with what you say here.
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I always forget about this forum on here and was just about to make a thread about this very same thing, and here it is at the top of the thread list.
I've had two very powerful experiences over the past two years and I have wondered what exactly is going on here, because what I went through was such a profound and powerful experience/sensation and what happened to me is not something that I have heard of anyone else going through (until recently as I put the pieces together of what may have occured). This word "kundalini" is something I came across after my experiences, not something I knew about prior...now with the reading I've done recently it does sound quite reminiscent of what I went through, but I'm hesitant to slap labels onto these sorts of things until I learn more about it.
Both times I've had this happen to me I was on one good single tab of lovely LSD (around 100mcg to 125mcg). I've spoke of these experiences here before, mostly because I was wanting to know wtf happened and if anyone else had experienced such things. Here's my best description of what I went through the first time I experienced what ever "it" is that I experienced.......
(Setting.....At a small festival in the middle of the mountains, 3 hours or so after dosing, I was sitting in my tent relaxing before the night started, more or less just blissing out)
A powerful "sensation" sweeps over me, similar to the blissful tingles washing over me that I get from LSD but this fully enveloped me. With eyes open I started to see patterning that I can only describe as penrose Tiling start to form in the air itself, the patterns were semi-transparent and vibrating/buzzing and shifting around in various layers ever so slightly. I quickly lose touch/dissolve, "break off" from the here and now of where I was, and become nothing more than a point of awareness laying upon and meshed into a flat grid/plane which expanded infinitely. While there, my point of awareness was composed of/represented by, all I was, was a purple Dodecahedron. This dodecahedron had a very interesting dynamic to it that I could feel just as if it was my body, it had movement in several different "axis" simultaneously. It was buzzing/vibrating, spinning in circles very slowly, and what stood out the most was an oscillation/pull of sorts that was at a low frequency, around 7hz to 10hz or so, and this oscillation/low frequency seemed to be anchored to where my chest/heart area would be (I didn't have awareness of my actual body, but these sensations were still felt, hard to explain ). This sensation of the oscillation/pull was remarkably similar to the feeling of holding a spinning bike wheel in between your hands, that feeling of pull that comes from the angular momentum & Gyroscopic precession of a spinning object.
So "I" became this spinning/vibrating/oscillating purple dodecahedron hovering above/laying upon an infinite grid, within an infinite expanse of nothing...just this infinite grid, and the dodecahedron. But I was also very much aware of and a part of the infinite grid as well, ever fabric of my being/awareness was meshed into and stretched out across the infinite grid, and there was that low frequency/oscilation feeling coursing through me....It felt like this grid was where consciousness lays, like "I" slipped down into some quantum/fundamental level of consciousness....While this was occurring I was simply just aware, observing, there wasn't much sense of my self, of "I", "me". As my sense of self started to trickle back, I was filled with the utmost feeling of "awe", grandeur, appreciation, thankfulness, pure unadulterated bliss, absolute ecstasy.
I'm not sure how long I was "out" for, but when I started to come back to I had an intense sensation that I can only describe as something pouring out of my chest/heart region along with that low frequency oscillation tugging about the same area....accompanied with this sensation was uncontrollable heavy ecstatic breathing that went on for at least several minutes, all the while tears were pouring out of my eyes like a busted faucet.
And here's my description of the second time I experienced what ever "this" is.....
(Setting....a small gathering in the mountains with bands/musicians jamming and collaborating making music all night, no more than 75 people or so, pretty much every single person there took L from the same exact paper)
...What I assume was 3 to 4 hours after I dosed. Sitting on the ground once again listening to & focusing on the music. Next thing I know, in one instant, I'm struck with an immense and powerful sensation coursing through out my entire body, like I was struck by lightening or something. My breathing instantly turns into rapid, deep, heavy inhalations/exhalations. It was not like being out of breathe from physical activity, this breathing had a peculiar feel about it and it didn't seem to be so much in my control. It felt like my lungs were open like never before, and my diaphragm was moving with much force, but in a solid & consistently fluid manner. Rapid inhale/exhale cycles of deep satisfying breathes in, and firm exhalation out. No moments between, just a continuous cycle.
My entire body was awash in the absolute most blissful sensation I've ever experienced. The only thing I can compare it to, and it actually felt remarkably similar to (but way off the charts in comparison) was an orgasm....but it just kept going and was penetrating my "self" far more deeply than any orgasm has. It's so hard to explain, but like the moments building up to and during an intense and euphoric orgasm...a sensation rising up my belly, chest, throat, and out my mouth as quivers of orgasmic bliss on my breathe.
My entire body was tingling & vibrating beyond words can describe, electric like sensations coursing all up & down my body...particularly in the spine, hitting a crescendo repeatedly as it would bounce off my skull. The vibrations seemed to originate from, or were penetrating, my body very deeply. I felt what I can only describe as a "fractal-fluttering" sensation across many points of my body, symmetrically, the sensation was like a bunch of feathers were swirling around rapidly tickling me from the inside and out (waaay more intense/euphoric/powerful than the mere touch of a feather , but also a delicate sensation in a way, again this is hard to explain)
While this was going on I more or less slipped into a trance like head space. I could still hear the music that was being played, but I was so overwhelmed and enveloped in what was happening that I was rather well cut off from the external world. An indescribable emotion flooded me after a minute or two of this happening and I had tears rolling down my face. Not necessarily happy or sad tears, I can't quite label the emotion/feeling as something like that, it was almost like a release of something that came out as tears, it felt really really good.
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So yeeea ......I've always been a super sensitive person and have experienced all sorts of bizarre "phenomena" that I don't know what's happening until down the road as I piece things together and try to make sense of it all . Things like lucid dreaming is something that came naturally to me and I've been doing so since I was around 5. In my later teen years I started to experience lots of sleep paralysis, I ended up learning how to get around the fear (a whole other talk within itself) and used it as a spring board into OBEs (at the time I had no idea this was a "thing", just another something that started to happen to me and I worked with it because it was interesting). Around 4 or 5 years old I was so amazed that I was an "I", that I'd sit and put all my focus onto this thought of "I" and it felt like there was a feedback of sorts that would result in euphoric rushes trickling over me, I had no idea what I was doing at the time and thought I had discovered something no one knew about , I never spoke of such things to anyone when I was a kid (and even still).
The first experience I described above, that was a huge game changer for me as far as my "spirituality" goes (I hate using that word for some reason ) . It opened up my kinesthetic cognition and has certainly done something to the way I perceive and "think" in ways I can not explain (more so than I already was...I've always felt my cognition and perception, or the way I process and the lens through which I experience this world, is a bit "askew" compared to most others lol).
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What we're talking about here is the chicken vs egg argument.
Does a mysterious kundalini energy that begins in the lower abdomen rise up and cause the brain a secret a variety of "enlightenment" chemicals that flood our consciousness or does the brain first secrete the chemicals that create the Kundalini energy feelings/experience?
Probably happens both ways depending on the situation but I think it's fair to say that when an individual experiences an overwhelming shift in consciousness there is most likely some kind of brain chemical, either produced by the brain or introduced via some plant, fungi or drug, involved
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Hira Ratan Manek www.solarhealing.com says all the chakras are actually in the brain.
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Re: Kundalini [Re: leery11]
#21401995 - 03/13/15 12:11 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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leery11 said: Hira Ratan Manek www.solarhealing.com says all the chakras are actually in the brain.
We have extremely sophisticated and sensitive electro magnetic imaging equipment that simply cannot see these Chakras. We can see and verify that the electromagnetic field exists but the flow of this energy through Chakras still appears to me to be symbolic rather than literal. These artistic images help us with the visualization process which is extremely useful and valuable regardless of what is actually happening with the energy in and around our body.
-------------------- "The universe is endless, limitless and infinite. Any effort to define it's boundaries is an attempt to overcome ignorance. We are physical, mental and spiritual beings ... there is no beginning and there is no end. There is only memory. Our repeated loss of memory experiences create the illusion of beginnings and ends. Immortality is the ability to retain full memory through all consciousness transformations. Loss of memory is man's greatest curse and, in very real terms, death." -- Ancient Taoist Master
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