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Jwardoin
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Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints.
#21400767 - 03/13/15 03:26 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey everyone,
I am a long time lurker and mushroom lover that finally decided to buy some syringes and get to growing. Unfortunately, a few weeks before buying my syringes, I booked a one way flight to travel indefinitely. My flight leaves 9 weeks from this coming Monday. With that said, I would like you guys to help me work within this time constraint.
I know that any other method besides PF Tek would be cutting it close in terms of time (I'd like to enjoy my mushies after growing them), so I suppose I will doing that. After lots of searching, I bought 3 strains which the community was saying colonized and fruited relatively quick to others (Thai lipa Yai, Cambodian, and Ecuador). So, I guess what I should ask is: How should I spend my syringes? I can knock up 30 BRF cakes, but fruiting them all would require a really big fruiting chamber, probably 2 even when considering contams. Should I try to pull that off? What if I put as many as I could fit in one FC and crumbled the rest in my yard? It's filled with dog and cat shit, so maybe they would grow eventually.
I'm trying to keep costs down, so while getting an extra tub might be okay, a PC is right out especially considering I don't know when I'll be growing again. That with the time constraint put me off from doing a monotub. I do really want to try growing one of my cakes in a 2 liter bottle, though.
I'm just looking for an economical solution to the amount of jars I'll have, and I hope this isn't a silly question.
Thanks
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: Jwardoin]
#21400905 - 03/13/15 05:08 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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fhatster used to stack his cakes, one on top of another
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: blindingleaf]
#21400912 - 03/13/15 05:12 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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blindingleaf said: fhatster used to stack his cakes, one on top of another 
Im doing that right now, if you have the space and time i would not double stack. i got bigger fruits but not good pinsets. then again im using ms
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: swatt_haze]
#21400919 - 03/13/15 05:16 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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swatt_haze said:
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blindingleaf said: fhatster used to stack his cakes, one on top of another 
Im doing that right now, if you have the space and time i would not double stack. i got bigger fruits but not good pinsets. then again im using ms
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"Quality over Quantity"

just busting ur balls dude
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: blindingleaf]
#21400964 - 03/13/15 05:43 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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still out of 24 cakes still got over an oz on first flush. one fruit was 26.95 wet. i just think imma like grains alot more
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: swatt_haze]
#21400972 - 03/13/15 05:46 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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i like grains more too, but i only did cakes a few times. i spawned one cake to coir/coffee/verm, and never went back to non bulk
  
  
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: blindingleaf]
#21401010 - 03/13/15 06:10 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Suppose if you don't have a PC you're going to risk a lot more chance of contam but if i were you i'd probably just get some cakes going asap and then if you have the time and read enough you could put some cakes to bulk in a mono or just put them all in a SGFC. It's really up to you but time isn't really on your side so just inoculate some cakes and you will have a couple weeks to decide on the next step from there
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: Straya]
#21401059 - 03/13/15 06:33 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can buy small plastic shelves for shoes with the pop-up base for your SGFC. It will keep the cakes off the perlite and you'll be able to use the space within the tub more efficiently - rather than setting each one (or two if choosing to stack) on a lid.
When excess cakes are fully colonized in jar, place in a fridge if you can, and it will be safe. Wait until some cakes are through and replace with the ones in the fridge as needed. Voila.
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: FeedYourMind]
#21401295 - 03/13/15 08:16 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, thanks for all of the advice. How much time do you think would be added if I spawned some of my cakes to a bulk substrate? If it's only like a week or two, I might as well do that in a mini mono. I suppose fruiting some cakes while the rest are in storage would be just as viable time-wise, though.
How about this: http://www.target.com/p/sterilite-latching-storage-tote-gray-with-green-latch-180qt/-/A-14757141#prodSlot=medium_1_12&term=sterilite+tote
I know everyone says clear is best, but according to some shoddy math, I would be able to fit about 24 cakes in here if I could make it work. Maybe cut the inside of the lid out, replace it with something clear, and put a 6500k light over it? I could then spawn the rest to a bulk substrate assuming all of my cakes are contam free. I wouldn't mind the discreteness of the solid tub either. 
As for stacking, I'd rather just go with a second tub if it meant getting slightly better yields.
I'm still wondering how burying a few in my yard would work out... 
Thanks again
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Re: Starting my first grow tomorrow. Advice on what to do with constraints. [Re: Jwardoin]
#21401408 - 03/13/15 09:08 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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That's a good and valid question - but as to how long, that's based on a variety of factors. If you're using 1/2 pint jars you could do 6 and you're still not at a quart. I would not do a mini, but instead, a tray and here's why:
1: You can fit the tray in with the cakes if you get that tub. It'll be easy to get something to prop it up in between the cakes, you'll see. (Height permitting). That can save you a whole lot of energy.
2: If you're using 1/2 pint jars, you're only going to have 6 leftover. If that's the case and you want to stick all 24 in a SGFC, then by all means but you won't even have a quart to work with. When doing substrate, you're going to want depth to help encourage more flushes. (Still debatable)
3: You'll end up saving time, money, and effort.
So if you choose to go that route, don't let 6 jars consolidate for a week. Instead, birth and crumble. Cover completely sealed with lid or foil until it is knotting/pinning. Then stick it in the chamber. The week it will consolidate should also be the same time your other jars are consolidating within the jars. The timing should be adequate.
Word of caution: That's to say you'll have no contaminations. Everyone's prone to it, so just be prepared that could happen as well.
And as for the light and replacing the lid, I think it's a great idea and I've done it. I would cut out a decent square or rectangle out of the top, seal down some seran wrap and you're good. No holes obviously in the seran wrap, but keep an even consistency of holes 2" apart.
You got the right idea!
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