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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: r00tuuu123] * 2
    #21385052 - 03/09/15 11:54 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

this news story warmed my heart. maybe i'll pay taxes this year.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: qman] * 2
    #21385673 - 03/10/15 04:43 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

If they're really secure in their beliefs, I don't see what being exposed to an opposing viewpoint would do other than solidify their views.
Besides, I'm sure there's a way for them to technically "complete" the sensitivity training without actually involving themselves in it.
It seems ironic that the people demanding tolerance and acceptance are being intolerant and unaccepting toward others' views because they're (surprise, surprise) different than their own views.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: moonrockmushy] * 2
    #21385734 - 03/10/15 05:37 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Do the LGBT's have to take Straight people sensitivity training ?




No. That would be a prejudice hate crime.




Nobody would single out someone for being straight, and it doesn't really matter what you think about someone when addressing them in a classroom setting.  Abuse of LGBT people does happen, and often the source is the religious right. 

If you address someone who believes they are one gender as another gender it may offend them.  If you continue to do that after being asked not to it may be viewed as an act of malice and ruled to be inappropriate behavior that is in conflict with the school's code of conduct.  The same thing would happen if you continuously disrespected someone's religion.  If nothing more people will be made aware of this.  It doesn't matter what gender you believe they are in your heart, you don't have to tell people everything you think about them.




Yeah, sorry, if you have a Y chromosome you're a man. I don't care if you wear a dress or cut off your penis.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: moonrockmushy] * 2
    #21385786 - 03/10/15 06:15 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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but I don't think this is a case where trans people are asking alot.




If they're asking for reeducation classes such as this, they're asking too much.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: Epigallo]
    #21385794 - 03/10/15 06:18 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Epigallo said:
No one would single someone out for being straight? What if you walk into a gay bar? What if you are a white person that walks into Nigeria? Straight white males get no respect. They have no permission to feel anything.




Ever walked into one?
People buy you drinks.



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Suckers :lol:

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #21386158 - 03/10/15 09:00 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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because they are people and people are insensitive.

case in point: this thread



I am very sensitive.  I'm tired of being called white. I'm not a fucking albino.  I am an unbent person of pallor


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21392991 - 03/11/15 01:55 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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moonrockmushy said:
but I don't think this is a case where trans people are asking alot.




If they're asking for reeducation classes such as this, they're asking too much.




Well I was more referring to asking to be referred to as she or he or w/e, even if you disagree about what that really means.  As far as sensitivity training in schools, it is already so common that I don't even see the point in arguing.  That isn't going to stop just because some religious/conservative people throw a fit.  I wish I could get out of all that sort of thing too, but that just isn't how it works.

To me it just seems adolescent to be like "NOPE!  Spotted you!  You're not (gender)!".  If you have respect for them you can make concessions to show respect.  If you don't have respect for them, and this really goes for everyone not just trans/anti-trans people, keep it respectful on school time or else you will be the one facing punishment.  If you can't handle that I'm sure there are schools that don't give a fuck what the government or most students care about, but the problem with that is those schools most likely suck even more.  You'll substitute lectures on diversity and respect for an all male campus and mandatory religious services.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: moonrockmushy] * 2
    #21393098 - 03/11/15 02:17 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Wasn't it the Nazis that had reeducation camps? There was the hitler youth movement which seems to parallel this nonsense. All repressive regimes use forced propaganda to make the public follow whatever is the latest nonsense. In china they do similar things too.

If you don't go to a propaganda class and repeat their mantras, you are a hate group? Yeah, that's logical, in a bizzarro liberal world.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: mpd] * 1
    #21393169 - 03/11/15 02:29 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

The university is the least free place in America.



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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
    #21393185 - 03/11/15 02:33 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
Wasn't it the Nazis that had reeducation camps? There was the hitler youth movement which seems to parallel this nonsense. All repressive regimes use forced propaganda to make the public follow whatever is the latest nonsense. In china they do similar things too.

If you don't go to a propaganda class and repeat their mantras, you are a hate group? Yeah, that's logical, in a bizzarro liberal world.




That's basically what it's coming to today, the PC Police are aggressive bullies that want to hurt you if you disagree with their ideology, the comparison to Hilter is very true.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: setb]
    #21393358 - 03/11/15 03:07 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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setb said:
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moonrockmushy said:
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Shroomism said:
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joe666 said:
Do the LGBT's have to take Straight people sensitivity training ?




No. That would be a prejudice hate crime.




Nobody would single out someone for being straight, and it doesn't really matter what you think about someone when addressing them in a classroom setting.  Abuse of LGBT people does happen, and often the source is the religious right. 

If you address someone who believes they are one gender as another gender it may offend them.  If you continue to do that after being asked not to it may be viewed as an act of malice and ruled to be inappropriate behavior that is in conflict with the school's code of conduct.  The same thing would happen if you continuously disrespected someone's religion.  If nothing more people will be made aware of this.  It doesn't matter what gender you believe they are in your heart, you don't have to tell people everything you think about them.




Yeah, sorry, if you have a Y chromosome you're a man. I don't care if you wear a dress or cut off your penis.




Sorry, genetics and gender are not as simple as that.

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qman said:That's basically what it's coming to today, the PC Police are aggressive bullies that want to hurt you if you disagree with their ideology, the comparison to Hilter is very true.



What bizarro world do you live in man?  People murder LGBT people for being LGBT.  LGBT activists do not murder people for being homophobic or transphobic.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: wayworm]
    #21393407 - 03/11/15 03:17 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Fuck I'd never take LBGTB 'sensitivity training'.....fuck off with that nonsense. Like that would really re-educate intolerant fucks anyway :rolleyes:

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: Uzziel]
    #21393444 - 03/11/15 03:23 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Stop bringing up free speech, their right to free speech was not hindered because they arent in jail. Free speech only protects you from prosecution, any other consequences are just that, consequences.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: Uzziel] * 1
    #21393462 - 03/11/15 03:28 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So much anger toward the lgbt community. They asked them to take a course on sensitivity not suck someones cock. If you cant be bothered to take a 2 hour class because its against your "religion" than you deserve the shitstorm coming your way.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: TrueLies] * 1
    #21393488 - 03/11/15 03:34 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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TrueLies said:
So much anger toward the lgbt community. They asked them to take a course on sensitivity not suck someones cock. If you cant be bothered to take a 2 hour class because its against your "religion" than you deserve the shitstorm coming your way.




Assuming that everyone is automatically insensitive to others is demeaning and offensive.

I have no issue with the LGBT community and I'm sensitive to their issues, why should I have to be mandated to attend a "training" class?  I shouldn't, if should be nothing more than voluntary to attend.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: TrueLies] * 2
    #21393519 - 03/11/15 03:39 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

>So much anger toward the lgbt community. They asked them to take a course on sensitivity not suck someones cock. If you cant be bothered to take a 2 hour class because its against your "religion" than you deserve the shitstorm coming your way.

Your intolerance is breathtaking, perhaps you need a sensitivity course? Forcing someone to do something they don't want to do is slavery.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: TrueLies] * 1
    #21393545 - 03/11/15 03:43 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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TrueLies said:
So much anger toward the lgbt community. They asked them to take a course on sensitivity not suck someones cock. If you cant be bothered to take a 2 hour class because its against your "religion" than you deserve the shitstorm coming your way.




Maybe you need a 2 hour course on common sense. Just because you don't want to take a sensitivity class doesn't mean you're insensitive, it just means you feel like its a waste of time....and it is.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: qman]
    #21393604 - 03/11/15 03:54 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Considering that the college is conservative they probably need all the sensitivity training they can get. You guys sure are whiney lol.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: Uzziel]
    #21393624 - 03/11/15 03:56 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Im sure everyone could benefit  from sensitivity training, you idiots are a prime example of why.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: TrueLies]
    #21393651 - 03/11/15 04:02 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Im sure everyone could benefit  from sensitivity training, you idiots are a prime example of why.




You would benefit from potty training.  :smilingpuppy:

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