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Could shrooms not be for me?(trip report inside) *DELETED*
    #21341348 - 02/28/15 02:08 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Post deleted by PsiloBoar<p>Reason for deletion: Would like to have thread deleted, or at least this OP

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Re: Could shrooms not be for me?(trip report inside) [Re: PsiloBoar]
    #21354549 - 03/02/15 11:50 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Well first off while preparing yourself for the trip reassure yourself that psychedelic mushrooms are not poisonous and you will not die from injesting them despite feeling sick. I've had trips where I thought about death, especially on mushrooms, but you just need to remind yourself you took a drug and your'e okay. Sometimes when you're new to medium doses of mushrooms it can be good to keep something in your pocket that reminds you that your safe. When I trip sat new people I would always have them carry some type of trincit that made them feel a sense of reality. I call it grounding the trip. I've seen people just use something as simple as their car keys and one kid even wrote himself a note that said he was on shrooms and was going to be okay.

Im curious, what do you think happens when you die?

Maybe try tripping with a sober sitter. Somebody that can remind you everythings alright. Even just habing them there should make you much more comfortable. Maybe you aren't letting the shrooms do their job? The way I see it when I eat mushrooms, I let the mushrooms take full control for they are the guide. As opposed to acid where I can take it and guide the trip whichever way I like.

It is possible that you may just not be cut out for shrooms. Try lowering your dose a tad and changing the set and setting? Spongebob jn a hot apartment sounds terrible to me. If you can get a trip sitter I suggest going to a well secluded area in the woods and enjoying a walk. Just walking around and constantly changing whats infront of you should keep your mind occupied on the beauty and away from death.'remember your trincit. Happy tripping.


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Re: Could shrooms not be for me?(trip report inside) [Re: PsiloBoar]
    #21357684 - 03/03/15 06:33 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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I genuinely thought I was immortal and lived beyond the human race. After being in bliss because of that, I thought I lived to the point our universe expanded to the point it was tearing apart and I was about to die. Then topic changed and I thought I was already dead. I was trying to comprehend how I died............. I thought the shrooms killed me and I actually accepted I was going to die.




Well, it's not that unusual to get these kind of thoughts from a high-dose trip, the combination of death and bliss and going "beyond" is the kind of thing that happens during an ego death trip.

If you already have a strong fear of death, plus a history of depression, it's not too surprising if a trip with such a focus on death leaves you feeling anxious, and it's not uncommon for the feelings of one trip to make a re-appearance in the next.

I can't really say if shrooms are "not for you" but I wouldn't recommend doing large doses on them. You say the trips are not as enjoyable as they should be, but shrooms are known for being a bit unpredictable and sometimes uncomfortable psychologically.

The only way to get around these kind of fears during a shroom trip is to accept that you are going to die - which you eventually did do. It's easy to get into negative spirals of thought on shrooms, the best way out is to surrender to the trip, to death, to whatever fears you have, and ride it out...usually the panic then subsides and you can start to enjoy the trip.

There's no easy way of tripping that avoids negative thoughts - if you are bringing in a lot of negative thoughts to the experience you will probably have to work through them during the trip. It's possible that lowish-dose trips might help you work through your fears, but if they just seem to add to your anxiety then possibly shrooms are not for you. :peace:


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Re: Could shrooms not be for me?(trip report inside) [Re: Aldebaran]
    #21381097 - 03/09/15 12:49 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Deadheadcaps said:
Sometimes when you're new to medium doses of mushrooms it can be good to keep something in your pocket that reminds you that your safe.

Im curious, what do you think happens when you die?

Maybe try tripping with a sober sitter.

It is possible that you may just not be cut out for shrooms. Try lowering your dose a tad and changing the set and setting? Spongebob jn a hot apartment sounds terrible to me. If you can get a trip sitter I suggest going to a well secluded area in the woods and enjoying a walk. Just walking around and constantly changing whats infront of you should keep your mind occupied on the beauty and away from death.'remember your trincit. Happy tripping.




Cut a bit out just incase someone comes across this post. I'm very aware shrooms aren't something you can easily die from, unless while under the influence you do something fatal to yourself. It was even strange the thought of me dying from shrooms actually came across my mind.

My thoughts on death are you have a large trip shortly before death due to the brain releasing chemicals(I think serotonin is released in large amounts, not 100% sure). Afterwords it's just blank because your brain is no longer functioning.

It might bad to say, but I have very few friends I trust to be around me when I may be psychologically vulnernable especially if they have had no experience with shrooms.

In my living room it's about 20C so it's on the cool side for me. I seem to swing between warm and cool, I wouldn't say I feel hot/cold at any point.

I'll see what kind of trinket I might have lying would I could try that with.

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Well, it's not that unusual to get these kind of thoughts from a high-dose trip, the combination of death and bliss and going "beyond" is the kind of thing that happens during an ego death trip.

The only way to get around these kind of fears during a shroom trip is to accept that you are going to die - which you eventually did do. It's easy to get into negative spirals of thought on shrooms, the best way out is to surrender to the trip, to death, to whatever fears you have, and ride it out...usually the panic then subsides and you can start to enjoy the trip.

There's no easy way of tripping that avoids negative thoughts - if you are bringing in a lot of negative thoughts to the experience you will probably have to work through them during the trip. It's possible that lowish-dose trips might help you work through your fears, but if they just seem to add to your anxiety then possibly shrooms are not for you. :peace:




I always figured a ego death trip would be higher doses than what I had, but everyone may react differently to shrooms.

I will definitely try to ride out any negative thoughts that come up next time instead of trying to force my thoughts elsewhere. The negative experiences haven't had any lasting effect after I sobered up, both times I felt pretty good the next day. For the time being I'll just stick to 1-1.5g and go up once I feel comfortable or have a sitter I can trust.

Thanks for the reassuring thoughts, I'll try again next chance I get. Been wanting to try lemontek with grapefruit, been drinking freshly squeezed every morning for the last week!

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Re: Could shrooms not be for me?(trip report inside) [Re: PsiloBoar]
    #21390697 - 03/10/15 11:15 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Some people get to ego-death on low doses their first time.  I've seen it happen on 3.5g when everybody else was just having fun and one guy is just "I'M DYING MAN!  I'M FUCKING DYING!"
:thisisterrible:

Now that you know what to expect, promise yourself that you know that the mushrooms will not actually harm you physically and vow to accept and passively submit to any experience they choose to throw your way.  Make sure you're in a peaceful, comfortable setting and have some totems that keep you happy, any pretty glass or metal baubles that will look cool while tripping, nice art books with pleasing geometrical prints etc. will be good.  I like to have some drums or a guitar handy, some people like to be able to draw/color. 

Meditation, especially getting good at just normal sober meditation, is extremely helpful for the psychedelic experience.  Mushrooms are not a fun drug, they are a useful tool for meditation and contacting the divine within.  (Ab)Using them for fun and games without respect to what they are capable of can definitely end up with them handing your ass to you.

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Re: Could shrooms not be for me?(trip report inside) [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #21390709 - 03/10/15 11:19 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Also, we all die.  I've found that through tripping I've lost all but the last vestiges of the natural animal fear of death.  I've still got shit I want to do on this planet and I love life as much as the next guy, but the way psychedelics change your outlook on death and dying is really indescribable to anyone who hasn't experienced it.  I recommend you keep on tripping until you have conquered the fear.  If you feel like you're not ready for the next trip, meditate, meditate, meditate until you are ready then try again. 

"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."

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