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cronicr



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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: randoman]
#21385701 - 03/10/15 05:06 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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i think you won't see the diff in the final product and what your seeing is a placebo effect
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: cronicr]
#21385714 - 03/10/15 05:23 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: bootster]
#21385717 - 03/10/15 05:25 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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bootster said:


If I could sort out strains of the same species by the appearance of their myc I wouldn't need to label the plates...
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21385791 - 03/10/15 06:17 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Good I am done spending money for a little bit then... maybe never.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: randoman]
#21385999 - 03/10/15 07:56 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you're going to mix spawn at least one of the two varieties should have some physical difference in a appearance. Luecistics, rust spores, PE variants etc. Just mixing a bunch of standard looking cubes doesn't really do anything.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: MrGiraffe]
#21386006 - 03/10/15 07:59 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I hear allot about uneven pinsets. Cube vs cube action!
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: randoman]
#21386516 - 03/10/15 11:05 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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MS.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: PrimalSoup]
#21386553 - 03/10/15 11:18 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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PrimalSoup said: MS. 
Thank you for that
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: randoman]
#21386861 - 03/10/15 12:48 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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randoman said: I am mixed up about mixing up strains of cubes. Every different strain I have has different looking mycelium.
I was thinking of mixing Burma with eq and maz. Watchathink
I mixed CR and EQ one time didn't have enough spawn to make a full of tub of just one so I mixed the spawn.
I got a shitty pinset and shitty flushes. All the mushrooms looked the same too
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: randoman]
#21395876 - 03/12/15 01:46 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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mustangbob3
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: ganjfather]
#21396002 - 03/12/15 03:32 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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ganjfather said:
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randoman said: I am mixed up about mixing up strains of cubes. Every different strain I have has different looking mycelium.
I was thinking of mixing Burma with eq and maz. Watchathink
I mixed CR and EQ one time didn't have enough spawn to make a full of tub of just one so I mixed the spawn.
I got a shitty pinset and shitty flushes. All the mushrooms looked the same too 
going by workmans crosses i would say any differences wont show until the next generation of spores is used anyhow ie not in the tub with the mixed fruits as the genetics dont become set until just before spores are dumped so only in these spores will their be any possible variation.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: mustangbob3]
#21396076 - 03/12/15 04:47 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Crossing won't be effective by mixing spawn. You want to mix the spores.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21399833 - 03/12/15 09:06 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Puerto Rican mycelium looks so thick and marshmallowy, unlike the ryhzomial myc I'm used to. Cant' wait to see what they turn out like.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: happygolucky]
#21400774 - 03/13/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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happygolucky said: Puerto Rican mycelium looks so thick and marshmallowy, unlike the ryhzomial myc I'm used to. Cant' wait to see what they turn out like.
Might want to post a picture of that in the contamination forum. What you're describing matches the description of some bacterias, not to freak you out.
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mustangbob3
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21400775 - 03/13/15 03:34 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Crossing won't be effective by mixing spawn. You want to mix the spores.
no it wont be controlled or even know if it has happened unless 1 strain has unique traits that are carried over.
but it will work, dikrayotic mycelium can clamp to other dikrayotic mycelium and exchange genetic information. it can does happen all the time and is perfectly effective from the myceliums point of view! the problem is knowing what and who has exchanged and also what genetics have been set at the spores for them next generation! after growing these out unless there was unique traits to look for then it would just be im possible to know as all you have is cubes but this dosent mean they have not crossed or didnt cross effectivly. the lack of effectiveness is down to human perspective and lack of genetic testing not on the lack of effectivness of dikrayotic mycelium froming clamps and exchanging nuclei/genetic information
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: mustangbob3]
#21401052 - 03/13/15 06:31 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes of course anamostosis plays a role and yes many strains will make up a fruit. But to carry traits over to the next generation you want as much going for you as possible. So I guess I should have said mixing spores is simply more effective.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21401075 - 03/13/15 06:43 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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yes i wasnt really disagreeing just pointing out that is only ineffective as far as our decoding ability lol the fault(s) is ours not the natural systems of the mycelium. after all how could we show or even know if an exchange has taken place and if this mating/exchange was selected as the genetics of the spores being set, other than if unique traits are carried over. so with average cubes all we can see is just more cubes lol but at the genetic level the differences/changes may be quite clear.
for example is 10 men slept with 1 woman and they all looked similar i.e dark hair and eyes, big ears ect if she had a baby it may be hard to say who is dad as no clear unique traits passed over but at the genetic level it is quite apparent and hard to refute who is dad.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: mustangbob3]
#21401132 - 03/13/15 07:08 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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With mushrooms its not as easy tho. Reccessive traits may take a few generations to reemerge. I crossed some AA+ with CRS a while back and my first generation fruits displayed neither reccessive. Which had me worried at first, but workman had the same thing happen with his PE/pf albino cross that became the APE. Spores from the F1 generation displayed great diversity for the F2, including my goal of a brown spored luecistic. Cultures taken from those are currently doing their spawn run as well as some more isolated tests. My goal is stability within 3 more generations.
So even if one of the mushroom parents has different traits, they will not neccesarily be expressed in the next generation.
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21401166 - 03/13/15 07:23 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am fully aware of the fact that mixing Burma and Eq are not going to produce me some kind of "super strain" I read workmans old shit daily.
I was just wondering if mixing the two strains in one tub would cause a shit bag pin set? Or if the results would be comparable to a normal one strain mono. Or if it does not matter at all considering the fact that a cube is a cube.
If I need to keep strains separated I just have less spawn per mono to use!
If it ends up being alright to mix them, I am going to have a mono worth taking pics of!
Who has tried this? Link Pics? Thanks guys
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Re: Strain Thread-Strain Discussion Here Only Please [Re: randoman]
#21401188 - 03/13/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its going to be like any other ms grow. Could be great, might be poor. All you can do is give them good conditions to grow in
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