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Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training"
    #21383185 - 03/09/15 03:24 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

A conservative student group at a Washington, DC, college has been branded a “hate group” and fears it could lose its funding for refusing to take part in gay, lesbian and transgender-oriented sensitivity training.

Members of the Young America’s Foundation student organization at The George Washington University believe the traditional values they espouse merit a religious exemption from taking part in the training. They are asking the student government to allow them to sit out the LGBT sensitivity training, and a requirement that they use the “preferred pronouns” of the people they address or refer to.

“We are hoping that by voicing our opinion, other groups may follow our lead, resulting in the [student government] taking our request to heart,” Amanda Robbins, the group’s co-president, told The College Fix.

“We are hoping that by voicing our opinion, other groups may follow our lead, resulting in the [student government] taking our request to heart.”- Amanda Robbins, Young America's Foundation
For now, there are no exemptions from the mandatory training for all sanctioned student groups, which Robbins believes represents intolerance toward conservative viewpoints.

Allied in Pride, a campus LGBT group, told The College Fix Young America’s Foundation is guilty of “intolerance and a pattern of hate” for inviting former Sen. Rick Santorum, a conservative Republican, to speak. The group also stated the conservative club’s funding should be revoked.

“The Young America’s Foundation is a political organization, not a religious one, so they cannot seek a religious exemption, and their refusal to use preferred gender pronouns should be considered an act of violence and a violation of the non-discrimination clause required in all GW student organizations’ Constitutions,” the group wrote on its Facebook page.

Young America’s Foundation Vice President Patrick Coyle said on the group’s Facebook page the school must exclude students who disagree with “prevailing leftist ideas that are pushed by the administration, faculty, and other liberal student groups.“

Last year, the school’s YAF chapter’s pro-life cross display was vandalized in an incident its leaders say was virtually ignored by the school.

“The hateful atmosphere that currently exists at The George Washington University will remain as long as the university allows liberal bullies to intimidate and attack students or clubs that dare to express opinions different from their own,” YAF wrote on its page.

Not all conservatives on campus agree with the group’s stance. Alex Pollock, president of the school’s College Republicans, said he would support mandatory trainings that would teach student group leaders how to be respectful.

"Regardless of your views on LGBT people, LGBT people exist," he told the school newspaper, The GW Hatchet. "It should be mandatory from a sensitivity perspective."


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: mpd] * 3
    #21383192 - 03/09/15 03:25 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Can't be a conservative and have different  views from those of the LGBT sect.  That's a no-no I guess.  So much for free speech in the place where it is needed most.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: mpd]
    #21383225 - 03/09/15 03:32 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: zappaisgod] * 3
    #21383238 - 03/09/15 03:34 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Bunch of intolerant fuck.

I guess religion is behind this


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: Patlal]
    #21383250 - 03/09/15 03:37 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Which one?


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21383273 - 03/09/15 03:44 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Does it even matter?


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: zappaisgod] * 3
    #21383274 - 03/09/15 03:44 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So not calling a person who has a penis and wears a dress a women is  violence.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: trekie] * 2
    #21383313 - 03/09/15 03:56 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

You are almost across the line here, trekie.  Show the LGBT people the respect they have been accorded through the court-mandated process or face the music.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: mpd] * 1
    #21383323 - 03/09/15 03:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Can't be a conservative and have different  views from those of the LGBT sect.  That's a no-no I guess.  So much for free speech in the place where it is needed most.




What of Allied in Pride's freedom of speech?  They are supported by the student government of that school.  I mean it is not like transgenderism attempts to subvert religion, and the school is open to everyone including LGBT I assume, so it is not like it is something these religious people won't be exposed to anyway. 

If you can't be bothered to acknowledge LGBT as your peers then I think it is obvious that there is a hate-based agenda that goes beyond what most people regard as the bounds of personal religious freedoms.  If the school takes state money it needs to conform to standards of equality, and religion doesn't play a part in that.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: mpd] * 10
    #21383367 - 03/09/15 04:11 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Do the LGBT's have to take Straight people sensitivity training ?


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: joe666] * 5
    #21383376 - 03/09/15 04:14 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Why should anyone be forced to take mandatory sensitivity training?  What are we, Nazis?


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: joe666] * 2
    #21383382 - 03/09/15 04:15 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Do the LGBT's have to take Straight people sensitivity training ?




No. That would be a prejudice hate crime.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: joe666] * 2
    #21383394 - 03/09/15 04:17 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I don't need religion to base free speech of off. Last I checked I'm free to hate who I want for any reason I want to.

Now I'm not allowed to steal from the people I hate or commit other crimes. But this is a free speech issue.

I should be able to call a tranny a tranny . Or a midget a midget


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: joe666] * 1
    #21383429 - 03/09/15 04:26 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

They are afraid their funding will be cut, thats not socialist or anything. They should fund their hate group privately. The LGBTBBQ group should also fund their own shit. I hated seeing 100s of dollars of student fees that fund every stupid religious group or special interest. One year my school served the needs of zero transgender students so why did they have a funded group i asked? My roommate liked to dress up like a stuffed animal does he get a group too? That is my problem is it has potential to never end. Everyone gets a group and I have to pay even though i never used it. All that shit should be paid for by the people in it.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: my3rdeye] * 1
    #21383435 - 03/09/15 04:27 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

That would be fair, but not politically correct.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: Shroomism]
    #21383525 - 03/09/15 04:54 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Do the LGBT's have to take Straight people sensitivity training ?




No. That would be a prejudice hate crime.




Nobody would single out someone for being straight, and it doesn't really matter what you think about someone when addressing them in a classroom setting.  Abuse of LGBT people does happen, and often the source is the religious right. 

If you address someone who believes they are one gender as another gender it may offend them.  If you continue to do that after being asked not to it may be viewed as an act of malice and ruled to be inappropriate behavior that is in conflict with the school's code of conduct.  The same thing would happen if you continuously disrespected someone's religion.  If nothing more people will be made aware of this.  It doesn't matter what gender you believe they are in your heart, you don't have to tell people everything you think about them.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: moonrockmushy]
    #21383542 - 03/09/15 04:59 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Perhaps everyone should get a letter tattooed onto their foreheads so everyone knows how to address everyone else.

I'd suggest carrying a flag of identification but then those fuckwads at UC Irvine would have a stoke.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #21383616 - 03/09/15 05:22 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Or we can just acknowledge that abuse of people based on sexuality or perceived gender is wrong does still happen.  It is the same logic that says any type of non-conformity is an abomanation, and a challenge to everything that is good in the world.  Sometimes progress does benefit everyone.

In the end I think these sorts of policies are justified because it is disruptive to learning to misgender someone, and it is not disruptive to learning to have to use someone's preferred pronoun if you address them.  Like if the teacher asks to be addressed a certain way, you just do it out of respect.  It doesn't have to make perfect sense from every possible angle, it is just what people consider civil behavior.  Sometimes civility comes with some minor sacrifices, but I don't think this is a case where trans people are asking alot.

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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: moonrockmushy] * 1
    #21383933 - 03/09/15 06:42 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't have went to the mandatory "training" either.

Sounds very "re-eduction"-ish.


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Re: Conservative College Group Branded "Hate Group" For Refusing LGBT "Sensitivity Training" [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace] * 1
    #21383944 - 03/09/15 06:44 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like a liberal re-education camp program.


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