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Tripping in my dream
    #21374506 - 03/07/15 01:00 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

So I had like 3-4 tall millers last night. I don't drink often - but I was a little more than buzzed. I haven't been able to find tabs/caps this week - so I said "this is my trip"

Then I went to bed. And I dreamed.

I dreamed that I was tripping. I wasn't aware of my sleeping state - I thought I was with about 4 or 5 of my friends and I was tripping.

Heres what I remember

It started with normal wavy patterns, like ones I often have on my shackle ceiling. They're almost like moving tendrils that revolve around a point, with multiple points, yet no clear point locations.


Then with the clouds. They looked normal at first, but as I looked at them they quickly became exaggerated pinks and white and they jaggedly folded in and out until they literally turned into life like heads and necks - bald, white, with not emotion, all looking at the ground.

I was like "HOLY SHIT IM TRIPPING SOOOOO HARD" and I told all my friends. After this - things started happening really fast

I looked away from the clouds and started to see pink/green orbs of light flying around. They didn't look "real" but they looked like tripping colors.

Space was amazing looking. I can't describe it that well, but it looked smaller - yet further away, and I would see things way off in the distance.  I remember seeing something like Frieza's death ball, except it was black with like circles of power around it (like in the picture but a lot more detailed)



I don't remember a lot more as of right now - but I remember that THIS TRIP WAS FUCKING AMAZING!

I seek to remake a similar experience - where I am quickly hit with intense hallucination after intense hallucination rather than only seeing waves

is this only possible in dreams though?

Can I break the difference between ego and self, perception and reality, conscious and subconscious, dreaming and life, and actually experience this in real life?

Or are there drugs that can do this? 7 tabs or 10g of shrooms is so much less intense than this, and because I was able to move around during these intense hallucinations I would say its even more powerful than 100mg of DMT. But I've only tried 100mg twice and have only tripped in my dreams once.


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Re: Tripping in my dream [Re: glimpee]
    #21374634 - 03/07/15 01:51 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Tripping in dreams and tripping while conscious are two very different things, it sounds like you enjoyed the extreme hallucinations, but in dreams you don't get the mindfuck aspect that you will get with actual high dose trips. I've done it too, multiple times, but it's just completely different than actual tripping.

The dreams were beautiful, as are most dreams and top that off with something like hallucination and you can have a blast... But taking 10g of mushrooms is a heavy experience, I can't even imagine and I'm sure you'd black out at some points. In a dream you can take a hit of DMT and let your mind run wild and you will be completely fine.. but ACTUALLY take that hit while awake and it will be completely different.

If you want to trip, trip.. But tripping while awake vs. while dreaming are completely different things and you shouldn't expect the things from your dream to happen.


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Re: Tripping in my dream [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #21374652 - 03/07/15 01:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I think I mostly agree with you there - I don't remember MUCH of a mind fuck (a slight one) but then again I can only remember like 30 seconds of the trip haha

And yes - I love the hallucinations. I take psychedelics more for visuals than for spirituals. I don't actually register the body high unless Im getting shivers or my skin/body feels weird - or if I literally forget shit every 2 secs

on 10 grams of shrooms I just get heavy visuals - its a heavy trip but I can still easily function.

But is there any way to recreate this experience, except in a new way? I understand tripping in real life is different - but I feel like there is a way to harness the break of reality and dreams. My goal in life is to be able to "turn on" dream states while conscious - to break the barriers between my "false" perceptions, the world, and my mind. This was one of the closest times I've gotten to doing this - and if I can learn to recreate this or do it whenever I choose to, then I will be very close to being able to "warp" reality when I'm sober. I can already do this a tiny its bitsy bit, but I need patterns and such usually.


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Re: Tripping in my dream [Re: glimpee]
    #21374677 - 03/07/15 02:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I'd say just get better at inducing lucid dreams and then you can take a dream anywhere - especially into a trip. This might be the easier route, do you really want to break the barrier between your consciousness and your subconsciousness? Seems like a risky deal...

I find a normal reality comforting, but that's just me. I trip to trip - and then when I'm not tripping I'm (pretty) normal. This is the dynamic of trips, you trip when you trip, otherwise is it really tripping?

Why do you need to see visuals while sober anyways?

How can you take 10g and not lose your mind?

Shrooms aren't just about visuals, the visuals are a small part of tripping, and I feel like if you are only searching for the visual aspect you'll get disappointed in the long run. Trips are for thinking, not just staring at patterns.


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Re: Tripping in my dream [Re: glimpee]
    #21374688 - 03/07/15 02:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I think I got a "REM Rebound" which means that the alcohol suppressed the REM state for a while, until it couldn't be suppressed anymore and comes fourth in vivid detail and intensity.

http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2012/05/drink-dream-at-your-own-risk.html

I REALLY don't wanna start drinking before bed. But I want this to happen again.


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Re: Tripping in my dream [Re: glimpee]
    #21374689 - 03/07/15 02:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

The other day I dreamed that I smoked DMT in the room in hyperspace or wherever it is that you fight majora at the end of majoras mask on N64

Ya

My dream was I smoked a fat rip through a bong and was blasted into that room
But majora wasn't there
But the floor was a trampoline.

Fun dream :lol:


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Re: Tripping in my dream [Re: SomeGuyX]
    #21374754 - 03/07/15 02:24 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Hehe, ill go through this point by point because we clearly have different perceptions on tripping

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SomeGuyX said:
I'd say just get better at inducing lucid dreams and then you can take a dream anywhere - especially into a trip. This might be the easier route, do you really want to break the barrier between your consciousness and your subconsciousness? Seems like a risky deal...




Lucid dreaming is something Im working on in an unconventional way - with no aid. Im not using a dream journal, I'm not using an item to help me ground reality to dreams. I want it all to be a blur - I want to understand that my "dream" is as real as this world - we are just told that it isn't. And yes, I want to break the barrier between all things within myself and with my connections to this world. I seek a different kind of enlightenment - to revert back to how humans are before they are touched by 10,000 year old cultures, and then reach wholarity in that state, and after that reach the utmost level of mental and physical control - such as buddhist monks do - and become the most advanced form of a basic human. I understand that breaking mental barriers can be risky, but so many of my questions can only be answered through experience, and I need to experience ego death and I need to understand what we DONT perceive and if there are other realities within our own that we literally just cannot comprehend. There is also the chance that when you die, you enter an eternal dream. If this is true, and you get power over this dream, you become god. If you want me to elaborate more on any of these theories, just ask




I find a normal reality comforting, but that's just me. I trip to trip - and then when I'm not tripping I'm (pretty) normal. This is the dynamic of trips, you trip when you trip, otherwise is it really tripping?




Tripping is more than just a drug to me - its an aid in my quest to break the reality we are told to believe. We are told that these objects are real - stagnant - unchangeable without direct contact. We are told that only things that everyone can perceive is real. We are told that this is the extent of our existence. We are told to follow others and emulate their social success. We are told so many things, and I don't believe in most of it. If I can break the physical reality of this world - I can gain insight and a perspective that many others do not. I'm not 100% sure on what that perspective will be, but I assume its going to be a positive one, as long as I can handle it.





Why do you need to see visuals while sober anyways?




As above - its not like I want to see visuals, it's that I want "control" in some sense over mind, body, and soul. If I can change how I perceive the world - I get closed to complete control over the self.




How can you take 10g and not lose your mind?




Ever week I take a "legendary" dose. The least I've taken in the past 3 months is like 5 tabs. Ive done 5-7, mixed in shrooms, molly... holy fuck, IN MY DREAM I WAS ON MOLLY!

But my point is - I often take LARGE doses because smaller ones just don't do it for me. When I trip, I want to be completely overwhelmed, and I never am - until I took DMT. I got overwhelmed like a motherfucker and saw/felt murdered bodies lying in pools of their own blood in my room. Of course my first 100mg of DMT was alone, why wouldn't it be?




Shrooms aren't just about visuals, the visuals are a small part of tripping, and I feel like if you are only searching for the visual aspect you'll get disappointed in the long run. Trips are for thinking, not just staring at patterns.




I think - but I have found that I can have the same type of thought processes when I'm sober - Im just less likely to forget and Im less likely to have that unreal shroom "push" mentally - but that only happens every so often. Im trying to get to the point where I am not affected by drugs, but I can trigger things within my own brain to feel like I am when I want to. Im not close, but I'm getting there. Think of Shaolin monks - they have achieved this. Again, its about control of the self - and I find that staring at patterns and spending time with the physical world and trying to influence it with my consciousness alone is often far more rewarding for me

One thing that I LVOE to do when I'm tripping, is blindfold myself, put on good headphones, and first envision my hands. Feel them, go through movements, and at the same time, see them in your mind. They literally WILL take shape. With practice and patience, you can start to use your hands to actually create/destroy within your minds eye. It's a fractal world - for me - but I can literally touch and move the malleable world within my mind. There is a burst in quantum physics - and I won't be surprised to find out that there are ways to affect the physical world with mental power - there is already some studies suggesting this on small levels - but who knows what could happen? Perhaps I will be able to actually summon a mer ka ba when Im sober and traverse to other dimensions. Perhaps.


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Just because I am arrogant does not mean I forget my place. It is how I choose to talk. I am not a monk. I am my own path, and I am without influence. Talk to me about my core being before you question my mental stability or life-choices. Chances are, they're only shocking to you because they don't fit your idea of what is.




Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069

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Re: Tripping in my dream [Re: Zombi3]
    #21374762 - 03/07/15 02:25 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Zombi3 said:
The other day I dreamed that I smoked DMT in the room in hyperspace or wherever it is that you fight majora at the end of majoras mask on N64

Ya

My dream was I smoked a fat rip through a bong and was blasted into that room
But majora wasn't there
But the floor was a trampoline.

Fun dream :lol:




Where you there when you took the rip or after?

did u trip?


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Check out my Art Journal for some stuff I do http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21647069

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