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The secret to growing syrian rue from seed
    #1722234 - 07/16/03 04:42 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I have read countless posts proclaiming that syrian rue is nearly impossible to grow from seed. The problem? The seeds germinate and grow to about a centimeter high, they stall, fall over and die at their 1 cm height.

I must admit I too have had this problem many many times. What did I do? I grew them inside, in all sorts of soils and sandy loams. In an indoor greenhouse, near a window, under flouro's, and whatever else I could think of.

The soil I decided on was a 50% Sand, 25% Potting Soil, 25% Peat moss. The seeds were already planted and under fluoro's in the house. One remaining seedling, that hadn't yet fallen over and died by the time I thought of moving it outside, was moved to my deck in its pot in a position where it would get direct sunlight. To my surprise it continued growing and has not yet fallen over.

The first set of vegetative leaves have grown out and I'm very confident it will make it as none of my other seedlings have progressed this far indoors.

My conclusion is a curious question. Did everyone that tried growing syrian rue grow it indoors only?


Once I can get my hands on a digicam I will post a few pics.

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #1722788 - 07/16/03 07:28 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

This is something I will try eventually. If you've tried everything else, you may as well give the little plants loads of fertilizer and SHiTloads of water to replicate a rainforest environment.


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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: Dr_Bloothumb]
    #1722829 - 07/16/03 07:43 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

actually, rainforest soil is pretty poor.

It's also a desert kind of plant, that grows in semi-arid conditions, it originates from central asia.

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #1725040 - 07/17/03 03:00 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

When i tried to grow rue from seed, it was done indoors and under a 400W HPS light. They grew fine for a week, until they got moved from their spot on the heated mat. After this all but one died.....the lone surviving plantlet didnt make it for much longer......The temps in my basement grow area get to be in the lower 50's F at night........

Maybe temperature is also an important factor in keeping these stuborn plants going? (Note to self: find out average high/low temps of mid east asian environment during rue flower/seed season)

Do you think under lower light conditions they wilt and die of some fungal disease(damping off)? or do they actually die from low light levels?


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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: DazedSol]
    #1726155 - 07/17/03 08:33 PM (20 years, 8 months ago)

I really don't know. Arid conditions are generally hot and dry during the day and cool and dry at night. I'm at 45 Lattitude and they're just fine outside, and shitty indoors.

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: Dr_Bloothumb]
    #1729906 - 07/19/03 10:39 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)

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This is something I will try eventually. If you've tried everything else, you may as well give the little plants loads of fertilizer and SHiTloads of water to replicate a rainforest environment.




i thought syrian rue was native to deset regions and arid climates. i think youre thinking of banistropis caapi bro.


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    #1729933 - 07/19/03 10:59 AM (20 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #1776653 - 08/03/03 08:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Here's the pic i promised.

Many more have sprouted up in the same pot, i'll have to separate them later.


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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #1777026 - 08/03/03 11:00 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

cool, there you go! congrats!
i'll try to germinate some here too...

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #2001871 - 10/12/03 03:01 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

How are they doing now?

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: zeta]
    #2003168 - 10/12/03 06:20 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

bout double the height of the last pic, though they've slowed down a bit since the temp has dropped..

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #2133806 - 11/24/03 11:07 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah,


Same shit here. I've tried it all, Outdoor, Indoor under Metal Halide/Fluoros all kinds of spectrums. I have used basic potting soil to mostly sand with a little shot of peatmoss. Nothing. They always die after a few weeks. Hows their native climate? A desert I assume. I have tried to grow them like poppies and let the pot dry out when they are seedlings. I don't know what to do?

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: medicinebag]
    #2135255 - 11/25/03 02:53 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

how fast does it grow i have one little small plant put its taking forever to do anything also how much should you water

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: mikey]
    #2136582 - 11/26/03 12:03 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I water it after the soil dries. I started my seedlings outside in the summer. If it's not growing now it's either a seedling that is probably going to die or it's dormant and you should take it inside, it'll survive if it's established inside. Mine have so far.

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #2136882 - 11/26/03 05:26 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

mine is in a green house with 50-70 degree temps

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: mikey]
    #2137315 - 11/26/03 10:18 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

like a dutch greenhouse? or a little indoor thing.

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #2138380 - 11/26/03 04:06 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)





:crazy: Sadly it's gone through a harsh period because I neglected it. I moved several months ago and had to move my Antonius green house to my mother's place with several of my plants. She neglected to water it or take care of it and it eventually died. It dried out way too much and also probably should not have been in the greenhouse. But the brown dead stuff you can see was quite large, and even larger before i clipped it several weeks ago. There is some new growth coming now, it's root structure is nicely established so i expect it to flourish once again come the growing season.

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: neuro]
    #2141831 - 11/28/03 09:00 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

nice thread neuro  :thumbup:

is that cannabis next to it  :smile2: 


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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: T0aD]
    #2141906 - 11/28/03 10:13 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

its a homemade green house with plastic slates and lights in it too supplement the lack of light and ideas plant look good and show no yellow justs really slow growth

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Re: The secret to growing syrian rue from seed [Re: T0aD]
    #2142780 - 11/28/03 05:35 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

That's Turnera diffusa, Damiana.

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