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Achillita
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Gonna be trying san pedro soon! 1
#21370493 - 03/06/15 11:52 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey guys, so either tonight or in a few days, I'm planing to have my first cactus trip! Well I'm excited. I just got my 26 inch cactus in the mail. was thinking keeping 12 inches for growing, and then the 14 inches for a strong tea. My plan for the tea was just gonna dice the 14 inches into pretty small bits and boil the cactus with some water for about 4 hours. Then strain and boil that down to a shot glass and do a shot of the cacti. Does this sound like it'll work? Any improvements to the recipe would be appreciated  Could I save this cactus juice for a day or 2 until I'm ready for the trip?
Oh and what exactly would I be expecting on the trip, like how long should it take to kick in or last ect ect. Thanks guys for all the help
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita]
#21370514 - 03/06/15 11:54 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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havent got to try this tek myself, but I'm looking forward to a mescaline trip at some point myself, and quite a few people recommended this to me.
https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation5.shtml
i think it can take a few hours to kick in, and depending on how much you dose, can last up to 24 hours, I'm sure a veteran will chime in and correct me if i'm wrong though.
Edited by SirShroomsAlott (03/06/15 11:56 AM)
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita]
#21370551 - 03/06/15 12:00 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I recommend using this preparation tek but yours also sound fine.
https://www.erowid.org/plants/cacti/cacti_preparation5.shtml
If you end up trying to save it for another day, I would just freeze the concoction. I actually have some in the freezer for a later time. I would also give it about 2 hours before the mescaline kicks in but I always drink mine as soon as I wake up cause it lasts all day. At least IME.
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Mescalitoe]
#21370582 - 03/06/15 12:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Unless your San Pedro is much more potent than the stuff I normally get, I doubt 14" will get you where you want to go. In my experiences with Trichocereus pachanoi you need at least 18" per person, up to 24" because the potency varies so drastically. I normally buy a ton of less desirable landscaping duds, boil it all, test it, and then freeze it as doses. This also has to do with the fact that mescaline is much more layed back than either LSD or mushrooms so people tend to desire the higher doses.
I could be wrong though. Like I said, San Pedro varies DRASTICALLY. I will actually not be buying it again. From now on it is Bridgesii or no.
Edited by Tolvin (03/06/15 12:10 PM)
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Tolvin]
#21370673 - 03/06/15 12:31 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well the whole 26 inches is a 7 pound monster. Also how would I get the cutting to scab over? But back to the psychedelia. Is there any way to gauge the potency of san pedro? I read somewhere about the deepness of the shade of green, and it's a pretty good looking shade of green.
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita]
#21370745 - 03/06/15 12:50 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I cut off a 17 inches which I'm gonna use for the trip. I guestimated for the cutting. It's a 9 inch cutting. The cutting that they sold me has scrapes into the sides of the flesh, doesn't that increase potency? Oh and also if anyone knows, how fast does a san pedro grow usually?
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita]
#21371295 - 03/06/15 03:22 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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i recommend a longer boil, at least 6 hours, 8 hours even better. add water during the boil to avoid burning the cacti.
More boiling equals more potent tea.
The best gauge i can say for gauging potency is color, consistency, and bitterness of the tea.
Color should be a brownish green color, consistency should be semi-thick, thicker than water and the bitterness should be high, very bitter.
Cant really gauge the potency of a cacti by looking at it, just have to consume it and find out
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita] 1
#21371312 - 03/06/15 03:26 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you are not where you want with that dose, smoke some weed. The synergy between the two is incredible.
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Achillita
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I'll do a longer boil time. Would smaller cactus pieces be able to decrease the boil time?
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Gottaloveacid said: If you are not where you want with that dose, smoke some weed. The synergy between the two is incredible.
Thanks man, I might try that out.
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita]
#21371853 - 03/06/15 06:07 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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The plant will scab over naturally in a few weeks and will be ready to plant. Also I agree with the poster above, boil it longer, that will extract more alkaloids. Make sure to use some kind of citrus juice (lemon or lime pref) in order to acidify the water.
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Tolvin]
#21371965 - 03/06/15 06:43 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Doing a triple boil is highly recommended. I like to do a two hour boil, strain and set aside liquid then put plant material back onto the stove with enough water to cover it, boil for another hour. Strain and add to the first strained liquid.
At this point I like to put the strained liquids into a pot and slowly begin reducing the amount of liquid by simmering on low. Sometimes after the second boil I will take the plant remains and put them in the blender. Boil the blended plant remains with just enough water to cover it for one more hour, strain, and combine the liquid to the liquid that is being reduced. Boil down to a manageable amount and enjoi.
If you let it sit overnight sediment will drop to the bottom and you can decant it. People say it doesn't need to be consumed, but I will usually just shake it up and consume it that way. You never know right?
I can't take much more than a cup of it before my stomach just says no. Get it down and then lay down and relax until you come up. It usually takes a couple hours before you feel anything. Eventually, yoI'll begin to feel nauseous. The less you move around the easier it will be. At about the three hour mark, it will finally start kicking in and any discomfort in your stomach will soon dissipate.
Good luck on your journey.
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Couperj]
#21371994 - 03/06/15 06:50 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Geez I am so surprised people get so much nausea 
I parachuted an ounce of powdered cactus (approx 12-15" of outer flesh) and the nausea wasn't too bad. It was about a cup and a half of really fine, dense powder. The worst stomach discomfort started after the second 2-3g parachute and was very minor. I was stoned at the time, but I hear people doing little tiny tea shots and throwing up even after smoking haha. I guess I have an iron stomach
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Gottaloveacid said: If you are not where you want with that dose, smoke some weed. The synergy between the two is incredible.
Totally agree. The syngert of mescaline and weed is unreal. Its so good, i had to give it a name.
I call it Mescajuana. (i made an article, its in my signature)
If u wanna do it right, take a weed break for at least a week (more is better) and have a durable bong with you and some dank, sticky budz.
Then, on cacti day, wait about 2 hours after drinking your tea (u should be peaking on the mescaline) and then take a fat bong rip with as much weed as possible. Do it like a DMT hit, biggest one u can hold for the longest amount of time.
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Im going to try a triple boil, I just finished my very first boil and am about to strain it. When taking it, should I just do the whole thing like a shot, or should I sip slowly on it until it's gone? Oh and would it be okay if I didn't use any lemons? I dont have any and I couldn't make a trip to the store.
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita]
#21373238 - 03/07/15 03:51 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I boiled the second boil for 1 hour, and then the third boil for 30 minutes. I tossed the cacti chunks and am now boiling down the liquid. It's a light brown color at the moment, It's filling the whole pot. I'm gonna boil it down to about a cup or less. And then place that in the freezer.
Also I curious about the dosage. It was about 5.5-6 pounds of cactus, maybe a little bit more. I was reading and it said that a few pounds would be a more than strong dose. Also an tips for the trip? I'm fairly familiar with mushrooms up to 5 grams. I know cactus is completely different, but just any advice for the trip
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita]
#21373412 - 03/07/15 06:31 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tips.
For me, mescaline makes me wanna see nature, so prepare for that.
Also, mescaline is super forgiving, u dont have to worry about too high a dose.
Prepare some beautiful music. I like classical on mescaline. And naturAl sounding Native American musix. Also, Shpongle is aweaome too, mostly cause i love Shpongle.
Pack lots of water and fresh fruits. Also, sucking on fresh lemons while drinking the tea helps with the taste.
As for taking a shot...well, some sources recommend slowly drinking it so yoyr body gets used to it. These sources say drinking it too fast could "shock" your body. Not sure if it really does, but slowly drinking the tea helps with keeping it down inside u. Remember, iron stomach! Keep it down!
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As others said San Pedro is variable, so you dont know what you have until you try it. You should be doing multiple pulls for as long as you can. While a 3rd pull for 30 minutes is better than no 3rd pull, it really is in your best interest to not cut corners here and make sure you are getting everything you can by taking your time and doing it correctly....I would increase the pull times and just put off tripping, sounds like your rushing it.
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: mandrin13]
#21374873 - 03/07/15 02:57 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know it wasn't the best thing to do but I ot super tired, I was finishing some work before and then just waiting, :L I didn't want it to all boil off and burn the rest. I need to boil down the liquid a bit more, I have 1 and a half cups of liquid at the moment. Also there are small amounts of this grayish goop/ powdery substance floating in the liquid. I was gonna strain it again but I'm not going to lose any of the psycho activity if I strain it again right?
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Re: Gonna be trying san pedro soon! [Re: Achillita]
#21374956 - 03/07/15 03:20 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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most the mescaline is in the water part of the tea. The sediment likely has very little mescaline akoloids in it.
Filter away.
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When I made the tea I boiled 56 grams dried for two hours straining it and reboiling between the hours. I then reduced it to a cup of a nasty tea which isn't as bad as people say but still pretty damn bad. Drank half the cup and within 45 minuets I was tripping balls. The trip lasted until the next morning so around 15 hours. Everything was swirling and melting super quickly (its like a fast paced watery LSD trip but more intense) tribal patterns were formed on everything. It was a great experience very ancient mindset and presence good introspection. Its a nice drug
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