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CAP_TURTLE
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: FoxFire]
#19089229 - 11/05/13 09:41 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well that article is interesting. I checked my lowes-non food grade bucket, my menards food grade buckets and menards regular buckets. They all have a 2 in the recycling arrows so they are the same plastic! Yet both companies sell the ones they label as food grade for 2x as much. I dont konw exactly what the difference is. I know usually the cheaper ones have a colored plastic opposed to white. Is that wher ethey become non food grade. If i'm getting the article right anything with a 2 should be good no matter what correct?
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Yet another reason I like to line with a bag, then the substrate never touches the bucket. Of course if I was selling them I would definitely want to use food grade too...
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: Forrester]
#19089667 - 11/05/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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See thats another thing I forgot to mention. I started lining my buckets too but I wonder if the plastic on the trash bags is considered food grade? I have to check to see what the label says on that but yeah that may help a bit too to relieve my mind on using regular buckets. I mean they are the same plastic from what i'm reading. Hopefully someone can correct me if i'm wrong
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My buckets are from mayonnaise 10kg and 5kg size. Тhe owner of a fast food restaurant give me.  Certainly is bad to do the checking, after you fill your buckets with substrate.
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CAP_TURTLE said: See thats another thing I forgot to mention. I started lining my buckets too but I wonder if the plastic on the trash bags is considered food grade? I have to check to see what the label says on that but yeah that may help a bit too to relieve my mind on using regular buckets. I mean they are the same plastic from what i'm reading. Hopefully someone can correct me if i'm wrong 
I see you have already found how confusing the world of plastics is 
Probably why we didn't figure out until recently just how profoundly harmful endocrine disruptors can be.
Anyway, I'm not exactly an expert but studied this my senior year. Trash can bags are not necessarily food grade, but you could be doing worse. Anything food grade cannot contain phthalates, like ziplocs and cling wrap. BPA is in the lining of damn near every canned food or drink, so I would be more concerned with those sorts of things. And stay away from PVC, styrofoam, and teflon if you can.
the book 'slow death by rubber duck' is quite interesting on this subject.
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: snakebite]
#19092196 - 11/05/13 07:59 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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snakebite said: My buckets are from mayonnaise 10kg and 5kg size. Тhe owner of a fast food restaurant give me.  Certainly is bad to do the checking, after you fill your buckets with substrate. 
The buckets I checked against the ones i use to fruit in were just random buckets I have for various things around the house. Every bucket I have something fruiting in was bought as a food grade labeled bucket. I would not switch to anything else without being sure of its use. Even though no one else would likely realise the diference in the buckets i'm using, I am trying to found a business and want my customers to be able to trust in me and what I produce The only reason I'm debating this is because I need more and I would love to know the cheaper buckets are safe to use as well. Till then I'll just keep paying the higher rate. Well actually my next round will be all supplemented oyster blocks in the usual unicorn bags for comparison on yields. But time will tell which I prefer.
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I've been using these food grade (get them from a bakery) 3.8 gallon buckets. They are clear which makes watching the colonization of the substrate possible.
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That transparency rocks! I need to start asking around but everytime I go to subway and such I only find ppl who don't want to do anything more than they have to :/ After today though I will have no shortness of bags for a while or at least a few months so I have time to find a cheaper alternative.
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Last 7 days I worked on my Oyster mushroom, Aloha lime method. Made 112 from 5kg buckets and 66 buckets of 10kg. I agree with all that is better in buckets of Oyster mushroom cultivation. Filling buckets with the substrate is at least 3 times faster.
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: snakebite]
#19095404 - 11/06/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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slow death by rubber duck is such a funny name for a book.
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CAP_TURTLE said: That transparency rocks! I need to start asking around but everytime I go to subway and such I only find ppl who don't want to do anything more than they have to :/ After today though I will have no shortness of bags for a while or at least a few months so I have time to find a cheaper alternative.
Unless something has changed in the past 10 years, subway isn't the place to find buckets. We got all of our condiments in plastic bags.
Hit up real restaurants.
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CAP_TURTLE said: That transparency rocks! I need to start asking around but everytime I go to subway and such I only find ppl who don't want to do anything more than they have to :/ After today though I will have no shortness of bags for a while or at least a few months so I have time to find a cheaper alternative.
Unless something has changed in the past 10 years, subway isn't the place to find buckets. We got all of our condiments in plastic bags.
Hit up real restaurants.
You might also try bakeries, I understand they get icing and other ingredients in them and can generally be had inexpensively.
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: OICU812]
#19098187 - 11/06/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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There's a korean soon tofu place near where I live that just has a massive stack of them outside for the tofu. Go for the soon tofu if not the buckets. I keep meaning to grab them but I'm so afraid of having an awkward conversation with the owners who probably only sorta speak english.
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: cmspice]
#19099542 - 11/07/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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Don't be ascared, just because someone doesn't speak fluent English doesn't mean they're not nice people! They're probably all stacked up because they don't know what to do with them but they don't want to just throw them away!
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: cmspice]
#19102950 - 11/07/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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cmspice said: There's a korean soon tofu place near where I live that just has a massive stack of them outside for the tofu. Go for the soon tofu if not the buckets. I keep meaning to grab them but I'm so afraid of having an awkward conversation with the owners who probably only sorta speak english.
That Korean guy will likely take more interest in your mushrooms than the average person. Subway was just one place I was considering but good to know I shouldnt waste my time Firehouse subs on the other hand I do know sells their buckets for 2 bucks and I believe donates this to a cause but not wholly sure. @snakebite-yeha buckets are definitely very quick to prepare. One problme i'm trying to remedy is the lids tend to collect water on them which I don't like. Also, especially for the qty. your doing, you have to have a decent space to clean that many shoudl you have a cold season in your area which i'm not even sure you have. Still you have a nice qty of buckets going and I can't wait to see these in action! How do these compare to diameter of the 5 gallon buckets which would be around 2.2 kg? I only ask because i'm curious to know if after a certain diameter does all that center substrate have any affect on the actual harvest, at least before it shrinks to a smaller diameter? If not once it gets down to have an effect the oysters would be fruiting inside the buckets. Still please share your pics! I will be experimenting as I think I said with supplemented blocks to see if its advantageous enough on the yield to switch. I'm also trying sawdust buckets atm as opposed to straw buckets, which yeah are slower, but once you get on a schedule so long as the required amount are ready each week i'd think that extra colonization time would be negligible unless i'm not thinking about this right. Which I may be as I have not slept in almost 2 days after spending time in the hospital with a family member
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How many pounds of mushrooms are you getting out of that 5 gallon bucket?
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cmspice said: There's a korean soon tofu place near where I live that just has a massive stack of them outside for the tofu. Go for the soon tofu if not the buckets. I keep meaning to grab them but I'm so afraid of having an awkward conversation with the owners who probably only sorta speak english.
That Korean guy will likely take more interest in your mushrooms than the average person. Subway was just one place I was considering but good to know I shouldnt waste my time Firehouse subs on the other hand I do know sells their buckets for 2 bucks and I believe donates this to a cause but not wholly sure. @snakebite-yeha buckets are definitely very quick to prepare. One problme i'm trying to remedy is the lids tend to collect water on them which I don't like. Also, especially for the qty. your doing, you have to have a decent space to clean that many shoudl you have a cold season in your area which i'm not even sure you have. Still you have a nice qty of buckets going and I can't wait to see these in action! How do these compare to diameter of the 5 gallon buckets which would be around 2.2 kg? I only ask because i'm curious to know if after a certain diameter does all that center substrate have any affect on the actual harvest, at least before it shrinks to a smaller diameter? If not once it gets down to have an effect the oysters would be fruiting inside the buckets. Still please share your pics! I will be experimenting as I think I said with supplemented blocks to see if its advantageous enough on the yield to switch. I'm also trying sawdust buckets atm as opposed to straw buckets, which yeah are slower, but once you get on a schedule so long as the required amount are ready each week i'd think that extra colonization time would be negligible unless i'm not thinking about this right. Which I may be as I have not slept in almost 2 days after spending time in the hospital with a family member 
I found a local bakery by me that sells buckets for a buck a piece. The McDonalds by me gets rid of their 5 gallon pickle buckets too.
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: ya der eh]
#21366597 - 03/05/15 03:09 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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about how many pounds of spawn for a 5 gallon bucket?
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: bw86]
#21368035 - 03/05/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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bw86 said: about how many pounds of spawn for a 5 gallon bucket?
I only made my comment in regard to bucket price. I buy and use for hydroponic setup in a greenhouse for veggies. I have yet to use for spawning edibles. I'm sure one of the other members can give you a good answer. Take care!
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Re: 5 Gallon Buckets [Re: ya der eh]
#21368450 - 03/05/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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ya der eh said:
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bw86 said: about how many pounds of spawn for a 5 gallon bucket?
I only made my comment in regard to bucket price. I buy and use for hydroponic setup in a greenhouse for veggies. I have yet to use for spawning edibles. I'm sure one of the other members can give you a good answer. Take care!
One quart of spawn works, two works better, (yield-wise), anything more than that is adding supplementation and can increase yields. I like to use two quarts per bucket, they seem to do well that way.
It just depends on how much spawn you want to make and can afford to use in your buckets. Obviously if you're doing 20-30 buckets, you don't want to use 5 quarsts of spawn in each, that would be costly and a lot more work.
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