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Algo
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: grainbrain]
#21362315 - 03/04/15 05:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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grainbrain said: I find the immediate, bioavailable psilocin in the fresh mushrooms to have a more electric presence than the slower churning waves of the psilocybin that your stomach acids convert to psilocin.
My preferred ingestion method would be fresh mushrooms in tea with lemon. 
Fuck always! For me its more beautiful visuals almost cleaner. gotta watch what you eat though bad greasy shitty foods will make lots of pain in the abdominal area. for me anyways.
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Dilated
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Algo]
#21363505 - 03/04/15 08:53 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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For me, it doesn't matter, the first hour is always a downgraded experience because of EXTREME nausea. Dry heaves, never a solid barf. Really makes things uncomfortable for me. I usually nauseate until the peak then it's the most amazing ride. I've been told to get some ginger root to help battle the nausea. Any others have this problem? This maybe a little off the MAIN topic but I like special treatment
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eatyualive
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Dilated]
#21363515 - 03/04/15 08:55 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dilated said: For me, it doesn't matter, the first hour is always a downgraded experience because of EXTREME nausea. Dry heaves, never a solid barf. Really makes things uncomfortable for me. I usually nauseate until the peak then it's the most amazing ride. I've been told to get some ginger root to help battle the nausea. Any others have this problem? This maybe a little off the MAIN topic but I like special treatment 
try shroom jello man. or shroom chocolates.
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SpitballJedi
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Dilated]
#21363523 - 03/04/15 08:57 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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right there with ya man. I seem to have a sensitivity. I like to get those frozen pre-made smoothie pouches for like a dollar or so in the frozen section. I can put 4-5g dry with it in a blender. It takes a little longer, but I don't get the gurgles and it tastes great.
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Dilated
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: eatyualive]
#21363526 - 03/04/15 08:58 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love the chocolates but I still get the nausea Tea wasn't as bad, slightly nauseated.
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Dilated
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: SpitballJedi]
#21363528 - 03/04/15 08:58 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: right there with ya man. I seem to have a sensitivity. I like to get those frozen pre-made smoothie pouches for like a dollar or so in the frozen section. I can put 4-5g dry with it in a blender. It takes a little longer, but I don't get the gurgles and it tastes great.
Ya the damn gurgles, so uncomfortable. I almost can't even talk because I'm trying to focus my zen..
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eatyualive
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Dilated]
#21363539 - 03/04/15 09:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dilated said: I love the chocolates but I still get the nausea Tea wasn't as bad, slightly nauseated.
jello ftw! its cold, its small, it hits like lightning.
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eatyualive
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: eatyualive]
#21363543 - 03/04/15 09:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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man i can't tell you how many shrooms ive chomped right off a cow patty. grits and all. amateurs lol
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Chem-4 OG
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: eatyualive]
#21363562 - 03/04/15 09:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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nausea? Thats just the feeling of amazing things about to happen. I guess and traditional dmt experiences are not an option.
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: hamloaf]
#21363566 - 03/04/15 09:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fresh and moist definitely seems stronger to me, too. Maybe MAPS will answer this question one day. Or someone of authority, with the necessary measuring tools. Would be nice if I could eat mushrooms legally, in my home country, just once before I die.
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Dilated
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: eatyualive]
#21363569 - 03/04/15 09:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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eatyualive said: man i can't tell you how many shrooms ive chomped right off a cow patty. grits and all. amateurs lol
You're also cannibalistic, nothing can affect your gut
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eatyualive
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Dilated]
#21363571 - 03/04/15 09:05 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol
i eat yo shroom wit my teef...
exocannibalistic. meaning i only eat members of other's tribes. not my own tribe. that would be like shitting where you eat.
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Chem-4 OG
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: eatyualive]
#21363675 - 03/04/15 09:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Back to the OP, Fresh mushrooms are stronger then dried mushrooms. I make this statement from having done both over 50 times each. Yes, I am a psychonaut and take part in several other psychedelic chemicals by pushing them to their limits. Salvia and dmt are the strongest in my experience but result in very different stories.
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Chem-4 OG]
#21363771 - 03/04/15 09:46 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chem-4 OG said: Back to the OP, Fresh mushrooms are stronger then dried mushrooms. I make this statement from having done both over 50 times each. Yes, I am a psychonaut and take part in several other psychedelic chemicals by pushing them to their limits. Salvia and dmt are the strongest in my experience but result in very different stories. 
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Chem-4 OG]
#21363870 - 03/04/15 10:09 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chem-4 OG said: Back to the OP, Fresh mushrooms are stronger then dried mushrooms. I make this statement from having done both over 50 times each. Yes, I am a psychonaut and take part in several other psychedelic chemicals by pushing them to their limits. Salvia and dmt are the strongest in my experience but result in very different stories. 
People try to hate on salvia but holy hell.. talk about another dimension.. back to the OP though... ahh!!
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hamloaf
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Helnak]
#21364561 - 03/05/15 04:03 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Helnak said: The drying process, as far as I know, destroys most psilocin molecules, but the psilocybin remains intact.
The destruction of psilocin molecules. Never considered this before.
Shines some light onto how there's an actual, notable decrease in what we describe as potency taking place between fresh fruits and dehydrated fruits.
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Tomandjerry58
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: hamloaf]
#21364695 - 03/05/15 06:03 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Idk I don't think that has much to do with it because psilocybin is a pro drug and the actual concentration of freely available psilocin in psilocybin mushrooms is most likely not enough to matter. The body converts it to the psilocin via dephosphorylation.
If I was too take a stab at it. The degradation comes in the drying process from oxidation. Although psilocybin is the more stable compound and holds up to the drying process thus leaving it in the dryed material . Its very likely that the dephosphorylation also occurs during drying creating psilocin and possible loss of potency in open air.
I think dried material also wouldn't digest as well as fresh material. Meaning you may need to rehydrate the mushrooms before consumption so proper digestion and dephosphorylation occurs. Dried material also isn't fantastic for the digestive system probly resulting in upset stomach.
Tried and tru... ive always loved mine fresh on pizza!!
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Tomandjerry58]
#21364744 - 03/05/15 06:28 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll try them fresh next time. I didn't know this !
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Re: The Degrading Of Psilocybin (if any) During The Dehydration Process. [Re: Legitimate_itch]
#21364764 - 03/05/15 06:40 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Legitimate_itch said: I'll try them fresh next time. I didn't know this !
Don't be afraid of the oven. I like to get a digiorno the garlic bread kind, what ever kind you like is fine. Cook till its almost done and add my fresh mushrooms right at the end with a piece of sliced cheese over them.Put it back in the oven till its melted.
YOu can eat multiple slices I also get a can of spaghetti sauce and heat it up for crust dippin.
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