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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Violet]
    #21362940 - 03/04/15 07:14 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey, Pasty.  VDG.  Chime in on this child's claims.  Did you have to water "several times a day"?




Yes, I did.  I don't know how much climate has to do with it, since I didn't really nail that variable down, and I admit that I was babying it (with pretty good results, I feel).  But yeah, mine got watered probably 4x daily.  Morning, after work (around 4:30), dinner sometimes and then before bed.  I didn't really mind it, though.  :shrug:


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Chem-4 OG]
    #21362963 - 03/04/15 07:18 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Holey crap people, ain't we past this? To answer the question directed at me, no I did not bottom water several times a day. Perhaps that is why my culture was less successful in them. I still need to do a few more runs of cubes in them, I have a few cultures in mind that all behave very differently from each other. I still feel I have things to learn from this particular method.

Really people I think everyone needs to tone the butthurt down. This is foolish. I think cased grains taught me a lot. They also were not a replacement for my grow. Every method has its drawbacks and every method has its upside. Right now in spite of the drawbacks of needing a liquid inoculate, bulk bottles are doing better for me than any other method thus far. Yet there are still things they do not do well either. Blanket statements and narrow focus on things like expansion and fruiting substrates serve to get us nowhere in this hobby.

I try everything that is based on solid principles. I will always recommend that others do the same.

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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Boomer The Great]
    #21362989 - 03/04/15 07:21 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I like cakes. I have some going. Agar to sterilized water. Shook the shit out of it then dumped it on a mix of WBS flour/coir. Cup cakes :grin: Not a standard cake, but still a cake!

These are RGS master to rice in pp5's 3 days colonizing. 3 are lagging so I probably fucked them up. These are from 50%-95% done. 1 heaping tbsp per container. Each container of RGS did 6 rice cups. So 3 out of 12 might not make it. No biggie.

Everything I'm doing right now:


POM. 1 0f 5. Knocked em up last night. Made the mix with 3 g's agar, 500ml rice starch from my previous grain prep for the rice cups and some blue food coloring. Its like blue slime.



The mycelium seems to like blue food coloring. I mixed a batch of 8-10 plates and one test pom using 2 drops blue and 2 drops red food coloring. The myc would eat the blue color first, then go back to the red later.On the pom you could see Leaving a bit of red in the ez felt I use and especially in the agar at the base.
You can see in this pic on the left is the color of the agar when I made it and on the right is where the myc has eaten leaving red behind. I'm going to look into it more some other time. The red dye could just be heavier and settles deeper. Still looks cool though.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21362991 - 03/04/15 07:22 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

No, Pasty, because if you water more than the cakes absorb all that happens is you submerge or float the cakes.
You were doing that right. Your cultures just weren't doing it with it, that's all.

Point is, you weren't watering "several more times a day", more like once or twice a flush... And you fruited. No dried tops, no flush entirely befallen to aborted pins.

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Hey, Pasty.  VDG.  Chime in on this child's claims.  Did you have to water "several times a day"?




Yes, I did.  I don't know how much climate has to do with it, since I didn't really nail that variable down, and I admit that I was babying it (with pretty good results, I feel).  But yeah, mine got watered probably 4x daily.  Morning, after work (around 4:30), dinner sometimes and then before bed.  I didn't really mind it, though.  :shrug:



Holy crap! Why were you watering so much?! Did you not have good humidity? We're you open fruiting?
Like I said before, I add water once or twice per FLUSH, coming out to once a week or less.
And that's coming from someone who easily gets the full yields from them.

The only time I have watered more frequently is a few days after the time before, if the cake drew all of the initial water up.

If you have to water more than that, something is wrong.  Whatever is causing that is outside the tek. You should be providing mostly just the water needed for growing fruits.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Violet]
    #21363015 - 03/04/15 07:25 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

At any rate I plan to revisit it soon. I am going to use millet, which is an expensive grain for me, I pay almost $0.75 a pound. But I feel that it should serve the tek well. I also have some cultures I am excited to try with it. One does fantastic when spawned to bulk, yet terrible when fruited in bulk bottles. I am really interested to see how it performs.

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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #21363027 - 03/04/15 07:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I did some math on it once, and I'm trying to remember it.  I think I pulled about 15g dry off that cake, which means about 150g wet fruit in total.  To keep the grain at the same level of hydration, that means it needed to be watered at least 135mL for the fruit alone--no evaporation from the water or substrate itself included.  So the water loss from the formation of the fruit alone was about 10mL per day, since I think it was over a two-week period.  Draw whatever conclusions you will about the rate of evaporation from the water, the block or evaporation out of the fruits.  I took good care of my sub and it worked well, as you can see.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Psilicon]
    #21363060 - 03/04/15 07:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Doing it math-style that way, and accounting for a margin of evaporation... 160mL over, say, 3 flushes, say, 5 weeks depending, is like 5mL a day... Which is realy more like 35mL a week, just about exactly what I would water after the first flush.

Are you saying you'd water in 4-8mL increments?  Too tedious... Sounds like keeping them in water all the time too.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Violet]
    #21363065 - 03/04/15 07:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

5 weeks?  Mine was over like two weeks.  And I envy that you live in a place where you lose 5mL per week to evaporation, although I bet your towels reeks.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Psilicon]
    #21363073 - 03/04/15 07:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Nice, then.  I often have a flush take a week, then up to a week to start another.  Depends. It's different all the time.  I was just stabbing.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Violet]
    #21363092 - 03/04/15 07:34 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Like PW and I have both said in this thread, there are pros and cons to (almost) every method.  One of the pros to MS is a fruiting frenzy.  You can see parts of flush one, two and three in my pic.  The obvious con to that is that harvesting is more of a pain.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Psilicon]
    #21363139 - 03/04/15 07:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Oh that's right it was MS, that makes more sense then.  15g in 2 weeks is good, especially for MS.  I would say it's nearly top-notch but your container was over-loaded.  It was grass seed, right? Grass seed is lighter and has less yield-potential-per container for that reason.  It was overloaded, but I'd say that's one of the best posted containers I've seen.  I've been shown a few great ones in pm's though.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Violet]
    #21363157 - 03/04/15 07:44 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, it was RGS.  And I did overload it.  I followed your prep tek and my RGS came out with quite a bit of excess, so I spread it evenly between containers.  Increased consolidation by a day to account for it, which probably wasn't necessary because the amount of calories per cc of substrate doesn't change based on the size of the substrate, and that was pretty much the last of my deviations except for watering as needed.  I wasn't going to let that fucker dry out.


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: Psilicon]
    #21363173 - 03/04/15 07:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Violet,

Any input on humic acid? or other specialty ingredients for grows? :bow2:


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Re: Ok Violet, you're next [Re: MBabble]
    #21363180 - 03/04/15 07:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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