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Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca?
    #21357286 - 03/03/15 04:55 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

i really want to do it but the fact that i have had depersonalization for about 8 years now is scaring me, so im hoping there's someone out there who has

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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: Apollop]
    #21357465 - 03/03/15 05:35 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

It helps a lot. That's all I have to say.


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21359210 - 03/04/15 01:43 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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It helps a lot. That's all I have to say.




with depersonalization? you have it?

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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: Apollop]
    #21360907 - 03/04/15 12:15 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

That's what they say.....


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21361615 - 03/04/15 02:48 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

It could help it or make it worse depending on you and how you deal with intense hallucinations, psychedelics are by no means a miracle cure OP so be careful. I get mild HPPD from time to time if I'm tripping fairly constantly, but depersonalisation is different and I'd hate for you to do it and end up worse off for it. What hallucinogens or drugs do you do, maybe try taking rue in caps then down DMT tea 30min to an hour later, the capped rue should make it less intense of an experience with it breaking down in capsules.


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: newageshaman]
    #21361804 - 03/04/15 03:30 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

ive done shrooms a few times.
maybe i should email the retreat im going to and ask

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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: Apollop]
    #21362272 - 03/04/15 05:04 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I'd imagine a retreat would be could, possibly beneficial aswell. Though if they do tobacco snuff or drink as part of it if avoid that part, wasn't long ago a story of a person dieing at a retreat after the tobacco cleansing or whatever it is.


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: newageshaman]
    #21363973 - 03/04/15 10:32 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know exactly what you mean by deporsonalization. I have always been somewhat antisocial in general and acid may have made it worse. I tried ayahuasca and felt like I died but it might have had datura.


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: PsychoKinesiS]
    #21366522 - 03/05/15 02:55 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

When you did your ceremony psychokinesis did get to see the shaman/ayahuascero brew the aya,if so do you think you could remember the looks of some of the plant leaves/flowers and what not? I'll possibly combine 2 or 3 D.Inoxia seeds with my rue brew the next anahuasca brew, similar datura doses have worked well before for me with mesc brews so should help a bit with nausea with aya. Low datura doses shouldn't effect the trip much if at all, do you think the aya you brewed had a fair amount of datura/brugmansia?


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: newageshaman]
    #21366524 - 03/05/15 02:55 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Also was there any tobacco sacraments in your ceremony?

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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: newageshaman]
    #21368275 - 03/05/15 09:04 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't see the aya brewed at all. And I have no way to tell exactly how much Datura might have been in it... just enough to cause me to almost die, trip for 8 hours, and to be in a catatonic state for hours after I came down. Yes there was tobacco smoke blown on me.


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: newageshaman]
    #21368422 - 03/05/15 09:46 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Allopop, sorry to hear you're still dealing with it. Was it caused by psychedelics? Have you tripped since? What was the exact internal dialogue you were having when it was triggered? Ie how did it come to be?

I can't tell you if ayahuasca will help or hurt as i think that answer is going to vary from person to person and be very difficult to predict. Ayahuasca can be an immensely intense experience though and it's not for the faint of heart. That said i don't really think it's all that different from other hallucinogens in terms of how it's going to affect you mentally.

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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #21368964 - 03/06/15 12:47 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Allopop, sorry to hear you're still dealing with it. Was it caused by psychedelics? Have you tripped since? What was the exact internal dialogue you were having when it was triggered? Ie how did it come to be?





thanks man. it wasnt drug caused. i believe it happened from an unfortunate turning point in my life 10 years ago

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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: Apollop]
    #21369136 - 03/06/15 02:42 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I personally experience depersonalization ( not so much now but it used to be very bad ) due to my BPD...... I've been on a slew of different anti-depressants, benzos and antipsychotics. i've never done ayahuasca but have tripped a fair amount of times on LSD and shrooms as well as a few dissociatives and it has honestly changed my life so much and for the better. have also smoked DMT once and it was an amazing experience, although i did not get the full effect due to how i smoked it. when i trip i feel more grounded and connected with my inner spirit, the earth, and others around me. I don't have such horrible anxiety and LSD has been found to have significant effects for treating mental illness... i can only speak for myself but I find these substances as extremely useful tools and would def be down to try ayahuasca one day.


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: psych_fck]
    #21383511 - 03/09/15 04:49 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

cool. glad thinks got better for you.

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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: psych_fck]
    #21384137 - 03/09/15 07:35 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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I personally experience depersonalization ( not so much now but it used to be very bad ) due to my BPD...... I've been on a slew of different anti-depressants, benzos and antipsychotics. i've never done ayahuasca but have tripped a fair amount of times on LSD and shrooms as well as a few dissociatives and it has honestly changed my life so much and for the better. have also smoked DMT once and it was an amazing experience, although i did not get the full effect due to how i smoked it. when i trip i feel more grounded and connected with my inner spirit, the earth, and others around me. I don't have such horrible anxiety and LSD has been found to have significant effects for treating mental illness... i can only speak for myself but I find these substances as extremely useful tools and would def be down to try ayahuasca one day.




Man, do I identify with that. I have lived with this for years, and the best way I found to deal with it was to lock myself in my house, take ridiculously large doses of LSD or shrooms, then proceed to trip the fuck out. It honestly helps. The key for me though, is NOT having others around when I do it.


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21384144 - 03/09/15 07:36 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Also, NEVER EVER LOOK IN THE MIRROR!  :stoned2:


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Re: Anyone with Depersonalization Ever Try Ayahuasca? [Re: DigitalTorture]
    #21385106 - 03/10/15 12:19 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

lol ..... " don't look in the mirror ITS A TRAP "

I enjoy taking psychedelics with close friends but doing them alone is pretty peaceful, something i deff wana do more.


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