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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: Alwaysanoob]
    #21197761 - 01/29/15 04:26 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Mist when the cakes look dry. If they aren't glistening anymore, then lightly mist and fan them. No need to mist the walls. It sucks that you are in a hurry, because all that can really be done here is have patience.


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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21197882 - 01/29/15 04:52 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I am not really trying to hit the walls. I want to mist the perlite well without over soaking the cakes.  The plan now is just to lightly mist 2 to 3 times a day. I am not home that often but make sure to drop by after work to mist/fan.  If I do not come home that night I make sure to drop by before work to mist/fan. They get a third mist/fan maybe 4 days a week.

I have some rye colonizing and should have some tubs spawned a few days after I move into my new place.

I hope these cakes pin.  I did everything by the book. They colonized beautifully, no contaminations, just no pins.

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: Alwaysanoob]
    #21197966 - 01/29/15 05:07 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

After 14 days, even without pins, I would expect to see the verm at least colonized, even if you're over misting some. Does the verm seem moist? They look like you just dunk and rolled them and that's not right for 14 days.

It's possible that you got a contamination that stopped growth. You jars can seem perfectly healthy until FAE is introduced and then the contamination can begin to flourish.

Don't focus much attention on misting the perlite, focus on the cakes. The over-spray will take care of the perlite.

Spray the cakes till they glisten and than spray again when you don't see moisture anymore, but the verm is still not dry. It gets a lighter color when it dries. You want to mist again right before that.


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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #21198071 - 01/29/15 05:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

The verm is moist. The one cake with the pin has definite myc growth around the pin. Not a lot but it started around day 13. Nothing definite on any of the other cakes.

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: Alwaysanoob]
    #21200456 - 01/30/15 07:46 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Just wait it out mayne,

If your FAE is good make sure you're misting the cakes directly so both the bottom and top cake get moist.

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
    #21217402 - 02/02/15 05:52 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Day 21 in the FC.

I have a pin.

Because they felt heavy, I was thinking that they may have been waterlogged. I cut way back on the misting for a few days. I kept looking through the forum for possible reasons that they would not fruit. I came across a thread where a guy said that he always had problems with 1/4 pint cakes drying out, if they took too long to pin. I sat the cakes on saucers in the FC and put some water in the saucers. I left them there for 8 hrs.

This morning I have 1 pin.  Not much to get excited about, but it is the first sign of progress in 3 weeks. I was resigned to a failed grow. Because I am moving this weekend and have other projects in the works, I was just going to toss these cakes later this week. Now, If I see any more progress, I will just leave the SGFC here and visit often.

Thanks everyone for your input and suggestions.

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: Alwaysanoob]
    #21217418 - 02/02/15 05:57 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Not much to be excited about?

Fuck that bro, that's your first pin,

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: Alwaysanoob]
    #21217419 - 02/02/15 05:58 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Theres a chance its just bad genetics,  But I think in this situation its most likely one or multiple conditions are not ideal.

3 weeks in fruiting to get one pin is a long time. Double check that your temps are on point. if your FAE and RH are ideal you should see consistent condensation on the walls of the SGFC.

Im sure we've gone over these things just double check :shrug:

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: TheBoomking]
    #21217437 - 02/02/15 06:01 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I have a batch of creepers going.  They colonized in 2 weeks, I consolidated for 8 more days.  Super fast ya know

Well they are just starting to pin now 2 WEEKS later!!. 

Just be patient, if it does not work. Eh try try again!!

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: cep2535]
    #21217520 - 02/02/15 06:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I am hopeful, but Spitballjedi mention contamination as a possibility.  We will see.  I will update the thread as either a harvest or a failure.

Thanks again.

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: Alwaysanoob]
    #21246608 - 02/09/15 03:59 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Just an update:

    Most of the cakes have pins. A few fat 1/4" pins and over a dozen smaller pins. I will have my friend continue to mist/fan 2 to 3 times a day til the end of the week, then I will just toss them. (I need to get everything over to my new place.)

    I got almost all the pins between 5 and 7 days ago but once they appeared they haven't changed. I have 3 mini monos colonizing, and am waiting for more spawn to germinate so, I am not that upset, just disappointed.

    On my first cake grow, once I had pins I was harvesting 3 days later and done with the harvest a few days after that.

    Is it unusual to have pins just sit there for so long?

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: Alwaysanoob]
    #21248157 - 02/09/15 12:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Nope,

Colder temps probably.


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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: taGyo]
    #21355261 - 03/03/15 07:32 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Just an update for closure.

After 5 1/2 weeks in the SGFC, with I 16 hr dunk and a few nights sitting in a saucer of water I got half of the cakes to fruit.

Some of the pins took 2 weeks to mature into fruits. When I tossed them there were still a lot of pins on the cakes. I just got tired of trying to coax these.

I harvested 32 grams wet. They were B+.

The icing on the cake was that they were bunk. I ate the 32grams wet and I may have felt a minor body load. There were absolutely no visuals.  I had not tripped for over 3 weeks, so it wasn't tolerance.

I wonder if it was genetics or the growing conditions?

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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: Alwaysanoob]
    #21355282 - 03/03/15 07:39 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Both.  With out optimal environmental up keep of the fruiting parameters provided to the specific fungus being fruited, the genetic stock isn't able to reach it's full potential. 

If optimal fruiting parameters are provided to said fruiting fungus and they still do shit like lack potency, and, or are huge, or small, or sparse fruiters, ect, then genetics can be called-out as a factor of a shitty grow.


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Re: Cakes Not Fruiting [Re: hamloaf]
    #21355354 - 03/03/15 08:02 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Both.  With out optimal environmental up keep of the fruiting parameters provided to the specific fungus being fruited, the genetic stock isn't able to reach it's full potential. 

If optimal fruiting parameters are provided to said fruiting fungus and they still do shit like lack potency, and, or are huge, or small, or sparse fruiters, ect, then genetics can be called-out as a factor of a shitty grow.




That's interesting. I had some slow colonizing and very slow fruiting B+ that were bunk. They were grown on cakes.

Also had my recent monotub produce some bunk fruits. Although I felt I dialed that in better than my SGFC. So could be a combination of the two? Never considered your explanation before though!

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