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What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes?
#21349900 - 03/01/15 09:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fearing contamination, should we keep them wet and well hydrated? Let them dry out just a bit? Prolonged dunking for 48 hours?
Mist with 3% h202?
Fan more heavily, with fresh air, or leave them 'pent up' in the dark... to rest?
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21349979 - 03/01/15 09:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Keeping them well hydrated is a good plan. Be sure supply plenty of fresh air too. 24 hours is a long enough dunk duration.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21349988 - 03/01/15 09:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've tried bottom watering, dunking and heavy misting. Bottom watering seems to work better with smaller, higher-nutrient substrates. Dunking seems to work really well for larger substrates, but it's also kind of a pain in the ass in substrates above a certain size. Misting is kind of meh. It certainly helps, but it's really tough to mist enough to replace the water lost from an ounce of wet mushrooms (roughly 25mL).
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: Psilicon]
#21350323 - 03/01/15 11:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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just to clear the air what type of big cake ya talking here? a regular brf cake or like a big bulk cake? i ask because a cake made of bulk and grain would hydrate a lot faster then a brf recipe
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: cronicr]
#21351018 - 03/02/15 08:26 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for all the replies, I'm hypothetically talking about one made of straight grain.
Thinking of doing it in the future. So, thanks for the info.
 Large like 4-5 quarts. Maybe a little bigger.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21351185 - 03/02/15 09:35 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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A large straight grain cake like that is likely to perform very poorly. It will likely dry out too fast, not get sterilized in the middle, and, once colonizing, get too hot in the middle.
Most grains perform better when mixed with a bulk substrate.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SpitballJedi] 1
#21351228 - 03/02/15 09:47 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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The question is...how to nurse cakes, any cakes, between flushes.
Their performance is not the issue, I've seen them perform well enough, and like the simplicity of it, also, sooo much less contamination, but thanks for your concern.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21351251 - 03/02/15 09:54 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said: The question is...how to nurse cakes, any cakes, between flushes.
It depends on the cake.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SpitballJedi] 1
#21351259 - 03/02/15 09:58 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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So what is your advice, in regard to nursing cakes between flushes? 
I'm guessing, keep them well hydrated as straight grain may dry out?
And for other cakes, what advice for them?
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#21351290 - 03/02/15 10:05 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Almost any substrate will need to be re-hydrated after a flush if it was a good flush and/or has dried out.
Depending on what you are using and how much re-hydration is needed, methods and times will vary.
It can vary between a good misting to a couple hours dunking to several hours dunking. There is no one right answer to cover them all.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SpitballJedi] 1
#21351335 - 03/02/15 10:19 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Another conversation killing post by SpitballJedi.
Is it okay if other people give their opinions? 
I seem to have been getting good advice before you stopped by.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#21351367 - 03/02/15 10:27 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes, it's okay for others to give opinions. It's an open forum and I gave mine, you are welcome to take it or leave it. But, my advice isn't much different than what others have given you.
You are killing your own thread with a bad attitude.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SpitballJedi] 1
#21351457 - 03/02/15 10:48 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Now that you have me on ignore, I no there's no reason to try and give you advice anymore.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich] 2
#21351474 - 03/02/15 10:53 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said: Another conversation killing post by SpitballJedi.
Is it okay if other people give their opinions? 
I seem to have been getting good advice before you stopped by.
And after he stopped by, considering there really is no bad advice in this thread.....just your terrible attitude.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SpitballJedi] 1
#21351510 - 03/02/15 11:04 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here we go,
Should we keep them wet and well hydrated? Of course.
Let them dry out just a bit? No.
Prolonged dunking for 48 hours? No, no need. 24 hrs is plenty.
Mist with 3% h202? Never!
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SpitballJedi said: yes, it's okay for others to give opinions. It's an open forum and I gave mine, you are welcome to take it or leave it. But, my advice isn't much different than what others have given you.
You are killing your own thread with a bad attitude.
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SpitballJedi said: Now that you have me on ignore, I no there's no reason to try and give you advice anymore.
^^since you r not seeing it, i will help out^^
Your conduct is all wrong. Try being respectful and you may get some in return. Spitball didn't need to hear a smart mouth and nobody wants to read one either.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: Heisenburg]
#21351668 - 03/02/15 11:43 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I took you off ignore before seeing this. Yes, I'm a bit cranky today. Sorry. Just seems like I knew you stop by to question my technique and then shit on it, but maybe I'm just being too sensitive. Got some really bad news today and it's fucking with my head, again, I'm sorry for any bad attitude I'm giving off, won't happen in the future. Okay? Sorry about that. Bad SoupSandwich, BAD!! I really just wanted this to be another good thread about people's different techniques between flushes.
Maybe we should just focus on the positive aspects of that?
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#21351755 - 03/02/15 12:06 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21352033 - 03/02/15 01:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said: Thanks for all the replies, I'm hypothetically talking about one made of straight grain.
Thinking of doing it in the future. So, thanks for the info.
 Large like 4-5 quarts. Maybe a little bigger.
grains should be cased at the very least, they have a hard time with pinning on a highly nutritous substrate, i would look into violets threads for good info on growing with grains
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21352940 - 03/02/15 05:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I really just wanted this to be another good thread about people's different techniques between flushes.
Maybe we should just focus on the positive aspects of that?
This is somewhat hard to do, since straight grain trays tend to perform very poorly when not bottom watered, and even then not as well as a bulk substrate. I don't like to call these cakes, because making a cake requires flour. Typically we call these trays when they're in trays, or blocks when they're removed from trays.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: Psilicon]
#21354182 - 03/02/15 10:12 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm happy with the way blocks produce, their performance, and everything else about them.
There's nothing simpler in the world than prepping straight grain and spooning it into a #5 tupperware, pc'ing, inoculating, then popping it out and fruiting. If you don't use verm even the harvesting is simple. Just cut the fuckers off and dehydrate. You can eat any grain stuck to the bottom. I'm not looking to sell or win any awards with my biological output vs substrate weight and I'm perfectly content with my shitty performance. It seems fine by my standards, which apparently are pretty low. And, I'm fine with that. And, the contamination rates are to die for. Like 0 contamination. And, more than enough mushrooms to last me for as long as I want. Or, just shell out another 15 bucks and have another year's worth of mushrooms. I don't pop them like skittles every day or every weekend.
This should be the tek you tell every noob about. It's much simpler than PF. Pretty much foolproof. Even I can do it. And, I can't do shit right...
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21354215 - 03/02/15 10:18 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said: Thanks for all the replies, I'm hypothetically talking about one made of straight grain.
Thinking of doing it in the future.
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SoupSandwich said: I'm happy with the way blocks produce, their performance, and everything else about them. ...
This should be the tek you tell every noob about. It's much simpler than PF. Pretty much foolproof. Even I can do it. And, I can't do shit right...
I know it's been a long day, but not that long.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: Psilicon] 1
#21354289 - 03/02/15 10:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Didn't say I haven't done it in the past.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21354558 - 03/02/15 11:52 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said: I'm happy with the way blocks produce, their performance, and everything else about them.
There's nothing simpler in the world than prepping straight grain and spooning it into a #5 tupperware, pc'ing, inoculating, then popping it out and fruiting. If you don't use verm even the harvesting is simple. Just cut the fuckers off and dehydrate. You can eat any grain stuck to the bottom. I'm not looking to sell or win any awards with my biological output vs substrate weight and I'm perfectly content with my shitty performance. It seems fine by my standards, which apparently are pretty low. And, I'm fine with that. And, the contamination rates are to die for. Like 0 contamination. And, more than enough mushrooms to last me for as long as I want. Or, just shell out another 15 bucks and have another year's worth of mushrooms. I don't pop them like skittles every day or every weekend.
This should be the tek you tell every noob about. It's much simpler than PF. Pretty much foolproof. Even I can do it. And, I can't do shit right...
why would we tell noobs about a lack luster "tek" most people don't carry the attitude of"good enough" they want good results as this can become alot of work and people want results to show for the work they put into it, if your happy with a few fruits that's great but i for sure am not gonna tell people to start fruiting strait grain and eating leftovers, got any pics of your results?
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: cronicr]
#21354608 - 03/03/15 12:07 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tell noobs to fruit the easiest tek with the highest rate of success. No, I don't have any pictures, and wouldn't post them if I did.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21354616 - 03/03/15 12:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said: Tell noobs to fruit the easiest tek with the highest rate if success.
i do, but i don't base that off soupsandwhich's experience
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: cronicr]
#21354631 - 03/03/15 12:19 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's definitely an easier technique to do, and it seems much less prone to contamination or stalling out than PF, don't you agree?
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21354634 - 03/03/15 12:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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no i don't i don't base my advise on ease and contams, i would say cakes are easier and anything is just as contam prone as anything else that's up to your technique but to each his own
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: cronicr]
#21354639 - 03/03/15 12:25 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ease and contams should be at the top of the list when getting someone introduced to growing, I would think. But, as you say, to each their own.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21354647 - 03/03/15 12:29 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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what so easy about fruiting strait grains though? i have left grain jars for months and never seen a single knot, pf jars will easily pin if left too long...so i don't get what makes ya think that's easier or more contam proof, if you can explain that part to me i'd be glad to hear ya out because as far as i am concerned i would say cakes are both from a starters stand point
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: cronicr]
#21354651 - 03/03/15 12:31 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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and just to get back on topic a block of grain would take less then a couple of hours to hydrate
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: cronicr]
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The prep is ridiculously easy, no grinding, no measuring, just soak and simmer. That's it. Spoon the results into any shaped tupperware and pc. Do everything else the exact same. The grain is loose so you'll have no problems with too tightly packed jars stalling out. Without any of the nutritional 'supplements' you have less chances of contamination. (I still don't get how people spawn colonized grain to a heap of nutrient rich horse poop and then don't get contamination every time. Even with casing, seems like there's bound to be more contamination. Certainly more than with this method.)
It's just a very, very simple and straight forward way of doing things. Fewer steps, so fewer places for boneheads like me to mess up. Less work and less chances of any sort of problems, contamination included.
With so few steps you can really 'hunker down' and master the basics. Get your sterile technique down pat. Start seeing what is too moist and what is not moist enough. Learn how to nurse your project between flushes. Etc.
Once you're completely at ease with that, you can move up, piece by piece. Add some coffee, see what happens. Add some this, add some that. Try casing. Then you'll know the culprit if things start heading South for you. I'm happy with it though.
As I said, I'm not trying to win any competitions or wow the crowd with monster porn pics. As easy as it is, you can just do it more often and make up for any lackluster flushes.
I don't know why I'm going on and on about it, it's just something I've found that's easy, low investment of time and money and works for me... everyone has their own preference, some like taking a slightly higher risk for a bigger reward. To each their own, as you said originally. All this talk is making me wanna grow again, maybe I'll post some pictures after all. 
Thanks for bringing us back on topic.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
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SoupSandwich said: The prep is ridiculously easy, no grinding, no measuring, just soak and simmer. That's it. Spoon the results into any shaped tupperware and pc. Do everything else the exact same. The grain is loose so you'll have no problems with too tightly packed jars stalling out. Without any of the nutritional 'supplements' you have less chances of contamination. (I still don't get how people spawn colonized grain to a heap of nutrient rich horse poop and then don't get contamination every time. Even with casing, seems like there's bound to be more contamination. Certainly more than with this method.)
I don't agree that a twelve-hour soak is less effort than five seconds with a coffee grinder. And like cron has said a few times, whole grain is no more or less contam prone than cakes.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: Psilicon]
#21355091 - 03/03/15 06:23 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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There is a reason people spawn grain to bulk. Because trying to get enough water to the culture with straight grains is a lot of work. Even the cased grain teks that are popular rely on a very small substrate that is easy to supply water to via bottom watering. A large block of grain runs many risks and will never be able to compete in terms of reasonable BE given the materials used.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Here's a straight grain cake fruiting. I dunked between flushes and turned it over to try to get water in it. Yes I got some halfway decent fruits from it - but I took the other cake the same size and made 4 bulk cakes out of it and got WAY more for almost no effort. I couldn't get more than 2 flushes before contams set in (slimy bacteria from being wet all the time) and my grains dried up on the part that wasn't in the water.

Not much you CAN do to a straight grain cake to get more out of it. Like everyone else is saying, they just dry out.
Way better to take Cronicr's advice and look at Violet's tek - cased straight grains work great because they don't dry out. Birthing a straight grain cake will never give you the results you can get with V-tek.
Here's some whole brown rice cased straight grains fruiting:

So I guess to try to answer your question specifically:
Q: What can be done to nurse a straight grain cake through it's flushes and get better results? (I know you said you don't care about better results...but why ask about nursing a cake through its flushes if you don't want to get better results That is whack mang.)
A: Don't birth it, case it in whatever container you colonized it in and fruit it in that. You can bottom water it between flushes and it's a proven technique with great results. And you'll get more shrooms out of the same amount of sub.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: urthtown]
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You may want to read *this part first?
van der griegen, a 12 hour soak is less work than grinding, measuring and mixing large amounts. Straight, whole grain might not be more or less contam prone, but with less steps you can see what you're doing wrong, with less nutritious sub, you can see where there'd be less contamination risk. Right? But whatever, I'm not trying to convert you to the cause or anything.
pastywhyte, getting enough water might be more work, true, but you can bottom water it like anything else. Right? Doesn't seem too hard to turn on and off a humidifier. And the simplicity, as I've said, means you can fine tune whatever problems you have (for instance the time spent resting between flushes) and you have less steps. Less steps = less places to mess up. For me. Again, I'm not trying to win any awards or 'convert' anyone.
urthtown, you're just adding an extra step, I go straight to bulk cakes. Unless I read your post wrong. Always a chance of that. Also...
I didn't say I didn't care about better results, I said I'm fine with my process, though looking to fine tune it, get better results from it, (not exchange it for another process). For instance I'd like to learn how to take better care of them between flushes. But, again, do whatever you like, I'm not trying to get you to stop what you're doing and start doing things my way. At all.
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* By the way, I've tried some of the things you guys are suggesting, spawning to bulk, casing, etc. I've done the breaking up and spawning to more and more jars, then traying and casing.
This is the technique that works best for me, right now, because it takes very little prep work...which seems to be where most people fuck it up. Colonization doesn't take any work. And less work afterwards, which is also where people fuck up.
Smaller and less fruits, yes, but I'm not willing to step away from this simple 'tek' just yet and risk higher contamination rates, having to micromanage a casing, etc simply to get TONS more fruits, which I don't even need. I'm willing to try out this... way of doing things, again, maximize it, and see where it goes. 
Still think this is the simplest tek. And noobs should try it first. But, whatever, no skin off my ass if they don't. No skin off my ass if you don't.
There's a million ways to get the same similar results.
Thanks for all the comments, gotta run, good conversation. 
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21355957 - 03/03/15 11:38 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup. You read it all wrong. Try again. 
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SoupSandwich said: You may want to read *this part first?
urthtown, you're just adding an extra step, I go straight to bulk cakes. Unless I read your post wrong. Always a chance of that. Also...
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urthtown said: Here's a straight grain cake fruiting.
Not much you CAN do to a straight grain cake to get more out of it. Like everyone else is saying, they just dry out.
Way better to take Cronicr's advice and look at Violet's tek - cased straight grains work great because they don't dry out. Birthing a straight grain cake will never give you the results you can get with V-tek.
Here's some whole brown rice cased straight grains fruiting:
Don't birth it, case it in whatever container you colonized it in and fruit it in that. You can bottom water it between flushes and it's a proven technique with great results. And you'll get more shrooms out of the same amount of sub.
Straight cased grains being the operative and oft repeated term here. You put a casing layer on the grains when they reach 100% and you fruit it. That's it. No bulk. I thought that's what you originally wanted ffs.
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SoupSandwich said: Thanks for all the replies, I'm hypothetically talking about one made of straight grain.
Thinking of doing it in the future. So, thanks for the info.
Large like 4-5 quarts. Maybe a little bigger.
You even said straight grain!
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21355969 - 03/03/15 11:41 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've read to let BRF cakes rest for 3-5days before dunking....here it seems you guys are saying to dunk right away after the first flush? (not instantly of course but 3-5days rest is not necessary?)
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: urthtown]
#21355970 - 03/03/15 11:41 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lol also "micromanage a casing"? You just crumble it on top and then put it in the fruiting chamber. Maybe mist it if it's a SGFC. What's to micromanage?
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: urthtown]
#21356805 - 03/03/15 02:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Soup what kind of BE are you getting? Convince me that your method is worth a try and I will try it. Bottom watering grains is extra work and is less effective with larger substrates. But until I see a coherent reason that your method is better with data and pics I will remain skeptical. Thus far most of my straight grain efforts have resulted in less yield and more work.
You want simple? Try muda bottles. Sterilize, inoculate, colonize, remove lid and fruit. Easy and high BE.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21356849 - 03/03/15 03:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21351018#21351018
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SoupSandwich said: I'm hypothetically talking about one made of straight grain.
Thinking of doing it in the future.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21351228#21351228
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SoupSandwich said: Their performance is not the issue, I've seen them perform well enough, and like the simplicity of it, also, sooo much less contamination, but thanks for your concern. 
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21354182#21354182
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SoupSandwich said: I'm happy with the way blocks produce, their performance, and everything else about them
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#21361789 - 03/04/15 03:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whatever, there's no point arguing with all of you. All four of you at once. Everyone must do zee exact zame tek, for zee good of the fazaland!
I'm willing to try new things, but not willing to waste endless posts defending it against a wave of nit pickers, when this wasn't even the point of the thread. It's really no wonder people don't come here with more experimental methods.
Anyways, it's still the simplest, most fool proof method I know, measly as the result may be. Maybe I'll go back to spawning or traying them? I'll probably do that. But won't be posting much on these boards in the future, much to your great relief, I am sure. 
I'll still be around, just not as active.
Wish everyone here the best, may you gang up and pick apart anyone who differs from you, the rest of your glorious days. 
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21361873 - 03/04/15 03:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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It occurs to me that The Shroomery would benefit from a forum devoted to 'experimental teks' where encouragement is ...encouraged and people are free to try whatever god awful idea that pops into their head with nothing but support.
That way noobs don't get the wrong idea that these methods are mainstream or anything, and people are free to try out new things without being peaks do death by a bunch of old buzzards, Just kidding about that last part, but you know what I mean.
Saw this offered on another site and it seems like a really great idea, though I'm tempted to say that anything that comes out of my ...keyboard will just be looked at under a microscope and hounded to Hell. Oh well, life goes on.
I really do wish all of you success and all that. The Shroomery is one of the best place online to get information. Just wish it was a little more open to experimentation.
Seems like whenever anyone s doing something not officially approved they aren't told how to best work with the way they've chosen, but just told to start over and do the same thing everyone else is doing. Maybe I'm just reading it wrong, seems I do that non-stop on these forums. Anyways, it's just a suggestion, as all my posts are intended, have a good night!
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21362083 - 03/04/15 04:20 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm working on a tek right now that has never to my knowledge been done before. But I'm not gonna go say its better than the other proven methods unless I have some results to back that statement up. You think no one has tried straight grain blocks before? Its been done lots. Then people realized it worked better when you mixed it with wet verm. Then people started to mix it with hpoo. The experiments continued until today you have bulk as a proven method.
We all know it can be done. We also know its drawbacks. Go ahead and do what ya want but don't expect people to let inflated claims of easier and better than cakes go unchallenged. especially considering you dont have a single pic to back anything you say. Some of us have done this stuff before
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21362768 - 03/04/15 06:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've said it was a suggestion the entire time. One that worked for me. Over and over and over again I said this.  And how many times did I repeat that I'm not trying to convert anyone? Over and over and over... Whateves. I rspect you all. Take care.
Have a good night! SoupSandwich.
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Re: What's the best way to nurse large cakes between flushes? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21363684 - 03/04/15 09:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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This should be the tek you tell every noob about. It's much simpler than PF. Pretty much foolproof. Even I can do it. And, I can't do shit right...
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Still think this is the simplest tek. And noobs should try it first.
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