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and.i.crawl
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First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble
#21343029 - 02/28/15 12:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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 ^^^aerial view of the golden teachers^^^
 ^^^golden teachers. largest shroom with split cap^^^
 ^golden teachers^
 ^golden teachers^
 ^^^^close up of largest cracked shroom golden teacher^^^
 ^^^second cracked cap golden teacher^^^
 ^side view of golden teacher^
 ^^^aerial view of penis envy^^^
 ^side view of penis envy^
hey guys. so this is my first grow and i have 6 cakes of golden teachers and 6 cakes of penis envys. I got done dunking and rolling them on Monday, 2/16 so 12 days ago. About 2 days after that I switched them to a much larger container and just made some general improvements to the kit. Maybe 4-5 days ago I got my first pin on the golden teachers. I have no experience and nothing to compare them to, but I think they are doing great! The penis envy on the other hand.... not one single pin. NOT ONE!!
So I'd just like to know what you guys think of the golden teachers so far.
I'd like some input on the cracked caps also please! I've been told that is due to either rapid growth, or not enough moisture? Does the cracked/split caps have any potential problems (contamination, rotting?) or will they just be mushrooms with messed up caps? lol.
My RH has been a constant 90-95%. My temperature has been a constant 70-73. I have the window open so they get light from sunrise to sunset. I work 8 hour shifts on nights so ive been fanning/misting them before work, after work and maybe one more time either before or after. I was fanning about 3-5 minutes but about 2 days ago i lowered that down to 30 seconds or so...
and lastly, what the hell is up with the Penis envys?? I didn't do much research before ordering the spores... seems theyre a whole different animal lol. Ive read that they dont do so well on cakes... i just cant beleive there are no pins. Should I just be patient? IS THERE STILL HOPE!?????
and yes I know i am not using a SGFC
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21343094 - 02/28/15 12:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're misting too much I think. What's your misting schedule? Cracked caps normally indicates low humidity. Show me your SGFC.
Be patient with PE.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: taGyo]
#21343118 - 02/28/15 12:45 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nevermind. I'm too high for this shit today lol
Edited by wowimflabbergasted (02/28/15 12:49 PM)
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and.i.crawl
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I have a small misting bottle. I fill that all the way up with room temperature water and usually empty out the whole thing in each misting session. I've been under the impression I should be covering the entire cake with mist/water. When I'm done fanning there's not standing water on them. The water bottle I'm using is 2 FL oz.
Then I was fanning for 3 minutes.
It was suggested that I might have been fanning too much so I cut that back a few days ago to 30-45 seconds.
I've been misting/fanning about 3x a day
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21343183 - 02/28/15 12:57 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would put the Fruit Chamber in a black bag to increase humidity, increase temp too to evaporate the hydrated "perlite. All you really need is humidity IMO no need to fan so much.
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taGyo
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21343192 - 02/28/15 12:58 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's fine.
They'll recover. Fanning for 3 minutes destroys their environment for a long time. They'll bounce back and they're all safe to eat.
Show me your SGFC.
I wouldn't put a bag over it. That would LOWER humidity because the more air you have the higher your humidity. Humidity in an SGFC is created by air moving from the bottom and pushing the CO2 out of the top.
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Edited by taGyo (02/28/15 01:02 PM)
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21343197 - 02/28/15 01:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just mist until they glisten. No need to drench them. This is want you want 
And there is no reason to waste 3 minutes fanning. 20-30 seconds is plenty.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: taGyo]
#21343208 - 02/28/15 01:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
taGyo said: Show me your SGFC.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: taGyo]
#21343265 - 02/28/15 01:14 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I already said I am not using a SGFC.
I ordered a premade kit online when I started because I didn't know any better. I modified it with the help of Nativenglish who is a user here. He said he made the same mistake of ordering that kit and has had much success with his modified version. I have air coming in through an air pump with an air stone on the end submerged in water. I have a full 8 qt bag of perlite in the bottom and my cakes are resting on grates to provide full air flow around them. I have cut a hole in the lid and put plastic wrap over that to allow light in and also make it easy to see what's going on in there. Although I am not using a SGFC it seems that all the conditions are met with my currently setup.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21343274 - 02/28/15 01:16 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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The air coming isn't creating enough humidity. The humidity is created by air going through the damp perlite and raising water molecules. Just having air moving around won't generate humidity.
Hence your cracking caps.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: taGyo]
#21343295 - 02/28/15 01:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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i meant the bag over the top of the tub, mainly, and the lid sealed. the CO2 levels wouldn't really affect those cakes. It works. No need to worry about CO2 (fanning). Just increase Humidity by any means necessary. Misting is a two birds one stone deal. Humidifiers can be pumped into SGFC for maximum humidity. the more humidity the bigger the yield. Frequent Air Exchange is to to simulate the consolidation and inspire fruiting. Daylight does the trick. Also the mushrooms WANT to grow, they'll find a way.
Lastly i think you already know they're 90% water. So kick that humidity up! Over and out.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21343306 - 02/28/15 01:24 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
and.i.crawl said: I already said I am not using a SGFC.
I ordered a premade kit online when I started because I didn't know any better. I modified it with the help of Nativenglish who is a user here. He said he made the same mistake of ordering that kit and has had much success with his modified version. I have air coming in through an air pump with an air stone on the end submerged in water. I have a full 8 qt bag of perlite in the bottom and my cakes are resting on grates to provide full air flow around them. I have cut a hole in the lid and put plastic wrap over that to allow light in and also make it easy to see what's going on in there. Although I am not using a SGFC it seems that all the conditions are met with my currently setup.

Ignore what i said, your Fruiting Chamber is GTG, mist away.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: werewolfnebula]
#21343315 - 02/28/15 01:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm going to be nice.
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Edited by taGyo (02/28/15 01:27 PM)
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: taGyo]
#21343323 - 02/28/15 01:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
taGyo said: I'm going to be nice.
They're Fruiting, you can tell by the pins...Meaning its effective, maybe not 100% NASA approved. I believe he's just anxious for them to fruit and removing the lid to often. IDK.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: werewolfnebula]
#21343333 - 02/28/15 01:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Obviously they're fruiting, you can place his pinset on genetics. GT is a prolific fruiter 9/10 times from MS, that's just the nature of highly domesticated strains like B+ and GT.
He's not getting enough humidity because that little air stone isn't pushing around enough water. Cracking caps like that happen because of low humidity.
Don't believe me bro, UTSE.
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: werewolfnebula]
#21343339 - 02/28/15 01:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess I don't understand how my humidity is too low

No need to be a dick man... I'm sorry I'm not following your perfect method but it seems to be working for the most part and I've put a lot of work in to transform it onto what it is now. I know i should have done more research before starting but im still proud of what ive accomplished these 2 months. I was just trying to ask a few simple questions. I can take constructive criticism but the whole editing the post and saying I'm gonna be nice just seems a little out of place.
It's a little low right not but I guarentee later it will be back up above 90+.
I really don't want to drop more money and buy a humidifier...
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21343348 - 02/28/15 01:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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All you have to do is drill some holes OP, you already have everything else.
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werewolfnebula
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: and.i.crawl]
#21343360 - 02/28/15 01:41 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Agreed that bubbler isn't having any real effect Theoretically,create a stable environment with the necessities required and they'll (according to genetics as well) fruit how they will meaning you can have totally awesome conditions and due to the strain they'll look like shit and visa versa
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Re: First Grow... how do they look? P.E trouble [Re: werewolfnebula]
#21343391 - 02/28/15 01:49 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is 12 days and no pinning on the Penis Envy normal?
Or atleast not abnormal. I read something about redunking them after a certain time to cold shock them into pinning. Is that something I should look into after say... 2 more weeks? Or.. how long do you go before you realize they aren't going to pin/fruit?
Edited by and.i.crawl (02/28/15 01:52 PM)
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