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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: beta_knight]
    #21371374 - 03/06/15 03:41 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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It's basically just an STB extraction of mimosa hostilis. Extracted with naphta, washed with a saturated solution of sodiumcarbonate. Freeze precipitated. Dried. 1 gr dissolved per 15 ml n-heptane in a 500ml flask, fitted with a reflux condensor (to spare as much solvent as possible, n-heptane is quite expensive). brought to room temperature in a isolated container, then to the fridge. Vacuum filtration. The resulting amber colored solvent was destilled to 1/3 rd of the original volume and again brought to room temperature. Vacuuum filtered. Crystals pooled and recrystallised a few more times.






:justastonishing: really nice work man

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hey Mescalitoe are you using the hybrid salt tek ?

im trying 35 g of lye instead of 55 tonight for sure !! :grin:





Yeah that's the one. Good luck bro I'm sure you won't be disappointed .




hell yeah !! :rockon:

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beta_knight said:
Most peculiar.
Bill and Mescalito, have you recorded pH readings for these extractions?

IMHO you havent stumbled on any brilliant theory. Both of you have simply been over-basifying on your extractions.
Now your running the TEK as it should be.

Like I mentioned before ive ran an equivelent of 30-40g per 50g acrb from the get go.




well maybe he didn't find the golden grail of the dmt extract , but he probably improved the hybrid salt tek measurement we were given following the tek , Thanks bill :hug: !! I would of probably still use 55 g if it wasn't for this thread


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: beta_knight]
    #21371380 - 03/06/15 03:43 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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beta_knight said:
Most peculiar.
Bill and Mescalito, have you recorded pH readings for these extractions?

IMHO you havent stumbled on any brilliant theory. Both of you have simply been over-basifying on your extractions.
Now your running the TEK as it should be.

Like I mentioned before ive ran an equivelent of 30-40g per 50g acrb from the get go.





you want a ph of 13 right?

I've been checking my PH's and 50 grams would get me to 13 to 13.25.

But a friend of mine thats into growing pot said that a ph that is off by just 1 can be drastically low or high for what you want.


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Asshat331]
    #21371460 - 03/06/15 04:08 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

I shoot for pH12 for the first and second basification. Don't think I've ever been higher than pH 12.2, maybe 12.5. Lowest has been pH 10.6 or so during one of my first runs that produced a significant shortage of crystals compared to others


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Mescalitoe] * 1
    #21371476 - 03/06/15 04:12 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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Theres a nice snow globe!


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: beta_knight]
    #21371589 - 03/06/15 04:45 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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beta_knight said:
Most peculiar.
Bill and Mescalito, have you recorded pH readings for these extractions?

IMHO you havent stumbled on any brilliant theory. Both of you have simply been over-basifying on your extractions.
Now your running the TEK as it should be.

Like I mentioned before ive ran an equivelent of 30-40g per 50g acrb from the get go.




I haven't recorded pH readings but Ima make sure to order some this week with my bark.
I'm still a noob so I never thought of buying pH strips or something of the sorts.

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21371650 - 03/06/15 05:04 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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Jean-guy Masta said:
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Albertheisenhouer said:
It's basically just an STB extraction of mimosa hostilis. Extracted with naphta, washed with a saturated solution of sodiumcarbonate. Freeze precipitated. Dried. 1 gr dissolved per 15 ml n-heptane in a 500ml flask, fitted with a reflux condensor (to spare as much solvent as possible, n-heptane is quite expensive). brought to room temperature in a isolated container, then to the fridge. Vacuum filtration. The resulting amber colored solvent was destilled to 1/3 rd of the original volume and again brought to room temperature. Vacuuum filtered. Crystals pooled and recrystallised a few more times.






:justastonishing: really nice work man

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Mescalitoe said:
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Jean-guy Masta said:
hey Mescalitoe are you using the hybrid salt tek ?

im trying 35 g of lye instead of 55 tonight for sure !! :grin:





Yeah that's the one. Good luck bro I'm sure you won't be disappointed .




hell yeah !! :rockon:

Quote:

beta_knight said:
Most peculiar.
Bill and Mescalito, have you recorded pH readings for these extractions?

IMHO you havent stumbled on any brilliant theory. Both of you have simply been over-basifying on your extractions.
Now your running the TEK as it should be.

Like I mentioned before ive ran an equivelent of 30-40g per 50g acrb from the get go.




well maybe he didn't find the golden grail of the dmt extract , but he probably improved the hybrid salt tek measurement we were given following the tek , Thanks bill :hug: !! I would of probably still use 55 g if it wasn't for this thread






Glad I could help!!!

and beta-knight...I have never tested my pH and probably never will.

and yeah, I as well pull 3-4 times.


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: beta_knight]
    #21371700 - 03/06/15 05:22 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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beta_knight said:
I shoot for pH12 for the first and second basification. Don't think I've ever been higher than pH 12.2, maybe 12.5. Lowest has been pH 10.6 or so during one of my first runs that produced a significant shortage of crystals compared to others





ok with he tek i use i get a ph of 13 so i need to cut down of the lye regardless.


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Asshat331]
    #21371899 - 03/06/15 06:18 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

Where does on get ph paper or strips or whatever?

I went to petsmart and checked the aquarium section and all they had to offered could only check between ph 4-8


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #21371932 - 03/06/15 06:31 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

online. theres sponsors on here that carry them


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Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21372042 - 03/06/15 06:59 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

No brick&mortar stores sell them?


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: sh4d0ws]
    #21372049 - 03/06/15 07:01 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

no clue


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21372248 - 03/06/15 07:56 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

Hey bill when you are at your salt step do you get the foam layer like in the tek ?and after do you do the defat step ?

cause every time i do it i don't get the foam like layer ,and when i do the defat step im not pulling lots of fat really :ooo:

my guess is that johnny uses Bark and then makes the powder and not straight dried powder but im just making sure im not doing something wrong


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21372308 - 03/06/15 08:08 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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Hey bill when you are at your salt step do you get the foam layer like in the tek ?and after do you do the defat step ?

cause every time i do it i don't get the foam like layer ,and when i do the defat step im not pulling lots of fat really :ooo:

my guess is that johnny uses Bark and then makes the powder and not straight dried powder but im just making sure im not doing something wrong




I never get it either :shrug:

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21372321 - 03/06/15 08:13 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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Jean-guy Masta said:
Hey bill when you are at your salt step do you get the foam layer like in the tek ?and after do you do the defat step ?

cause every time i do it i don't get the foam like layer ,and when i do the defat step im not pulling lots of fat really :ooo:

my guess is that johnny uses Bark and then makes the powder and not straight dried powder but im just making sure im not doing something wrong





Actually, I too, do not get the foam. I always wondered why I didn't.

I get this layer of speks that float to the top. there must be billions of them that clump together kind of. This is my least favorite part of the extraction because its the most tedious trying to get all that gunk out. But I found little tricks to get it done kind of fast.

What I do, is I blow on the bark solution. This moves some of the gunk to the sides of the glass vessel, and the gunk sticks to the vessel. Then I get my turkey baster and suck out a lot of the bark, and put it in a cup. Then, I get a paper-towel and wipe the sides of the glass, wiping up the gunk that sticks to the glass. I do this until its all gone...I just keep drawing out the bark solution, then wiping out the gunk.

Then at the end, I pour all the bark solution back in the vessel.


But at the very beginning of the step, I do use a spoon to get what I can out. I still use the blowing method to blow the gunk the sides of the glass, then I apply the spoon to the glass and scrape up as much gunk as I can. Then I go on to do what I explained before.



hope this helps.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21372356 - 03/06/15 08:22 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

aww yea im not doing something wrong I guess :lol: I get this layer of specks too tho im glad I ask thanks for the tip ill try that!


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Jean-guy Masta]
    #21372366 - 03/06/15 08:24 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

youll get the hang of it :rockon:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21372845 - 03/06/15 10:49 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

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im happy to hear people are getting great results and taking my advice seriously. its cool getting laughed at by assholes then being proved right by cool people that actually trust me.




Nice Bill!

I knew you werent crazy!

I will have to try that. Look at those different photos. Frinkin night and day!

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21372853 - 03/06/15 10:55 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

Oh yeah, if u guys wanna really dial your pH in, get one of these bad-ass devices:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/301424055812?cmd=VIDESC&gxo=true


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21372882 - 03/06/15 11:15 PM (9 years, 15 days ago)

Can you put a link of a good tek for this please

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21373216 - 03/07/15 03:00 AM (9 years, 14 days ago)

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Oh yeah, if u guys wanna really dial your pH in, get one of these bad-ass devices:

http://m.ebay.com/itm/301424055812?cmd=VIDESC&gxo=true



I've got that yellow one on the back. It works pretty good


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