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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Sham87] * 1
    #21349649 - 03/01/15 07:55 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

finally some people that are excited like I was/am!

I thought everyone was going to continue to be give some smart-ass reply :lol:

I really believe im onto something :ancientaliens:


less lye= higher purity and possibly higher yield


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All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21349753 - 03/01/15 08:28 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

Can you post a pic of your product?


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Sham87]
    #21349781 - 03/01/15 08:35 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

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Can you post a pic of your product?




Right??


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: beta_knight]
    #21349869 - 03/01/15 09:05 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

its already scraped and added into the vile where I kept the DMT from all my other pulls. Sorry.

I mean its nothing special to look at..its just DMT, and when scraped, on the razor blade is a tiny of yellow paste and ontop is 75% or so white dmt crystals.

compared to allll my other pulls where I got over 50% red pastey DMT...I am pumped. Like I said...the only thing I changed was the amount of Lye I used. I used about half than what the tek said.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Sham87]
    #21349909 - 03/01/15 09:17 PM (9 years, 20 days ago)

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Can you post a pic of your product?




Yeeeeaaaah. Do it! :awesome:

And a side-by-side comparsion to your 1:1 ratio would be cool, to see the pile size difference.

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #21350454 - 03/02/15 12:32 AM (9 years, 20 days ago)

So the idea is to use naptha first and then heptane to get a purer product? I guess this would result in lesser yields, but having a cleaner superior product would be best if your going to smoke it. No?

I have heard and read reports of people having DMT burn their lungs when smoking it. Some have problems breathing. Probably from  a dirtier  product I would assume.

  I'm ready to cut my teeth on DMT and have searched to get a basic knowledge, but it's nice to see a current thread discussing teks that noobs can chime in on without bumping an ancient thread with questions containing posts of users that are long gone. 

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Astral Pain] * 2
    #21350870 - 03/02/15 07:01 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

I use d-limonene, Bill. Your assumptions about me using heptane is a smart ass reply akin to what you accuse me of.
https://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/chemistry/extractions/extractions_info1.shtml
There are residues even though it's white a wash would be responsible.

The fact that you are more butthurt about me raining on your parade than harming the environment and the people who will ingest your garbage extract speaks for your character.
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It may not be the most healthy..but hey...were doing a damn drug. If you want to be healthy...go vegan or something :shrug:







If you don't care about your health thats fine,  but don't bring others To harm theirs. At least include a warning about washing the product to remove residues. Lets guide newbs in the right direction. Were not making fucking meth goddamnit were trying to get the spirit molecule. Have some integrity.


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #21350875 - 03/02/15 07:10 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

Quote:

ShroomDoom said:

https://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/chemistry/extractions/extractions_info1.shtml
There are residues even though it's white a wash would be responsible.





Coleman fuel is not the same as VM&P naphtha. I would 100% assume Coleman fuel would have junk in it. That article is BS


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21350887 - 03/02/15 07:16 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

MSDS for Vm&P i wouldn't smoke your nasty cancerous shit, either.


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #21350937 - 03/02/15 07:37 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

honestly this is this 1st time im hearing anyone saying naptha is bad for your health and comes with risks.


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #21350943 - 03/02/15 07:40 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

What are you trying to say? If the right precautions are taken and the solvent is pure you shouldn't have to worry about it ending up in the final product... This is simple chemistry knowledge. Alls you did was show that naphtha is a pure solvent.

What about all the solvents used to make LSD? I'm sure you've taken acid at least once in your life and the solvents used in that process makes the dmt extraction seem like childs play.


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #21350945 - 03/02/15 07:42 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

Quote:

Bill_Oreilly said:
honestly this is this 1st time im hearing anyone saying naptha is bad for your health and comes with risks.



The msds says to wear a respirator when using it...it's not good to inhale at all.
As for a smokeable product.. if you wash and recrystalize then the risks are mitigated. Also dont pour it down the drain, mix it with paint and carry it to waste management listed as paint waste. Please be responsible and help others to do so.


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21350951 - 03/02/15 07:45 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

Quote:

Bugler Boy said:
What are you trying to say? If the right precautions are taken and the solvent is pure you shouldn't have to worry




Those precautions are never advised in the beginning of this thread. All im trying to say is wash and or recrystalize product made from this to be safe, don't be a dick and pour it down the drain or outside.

As for LSD...ether and methanol are common solvents used during ssynthesis and after column chromotography and other separation methods I doubt any gets into the final product. don't be a dick.

Edited by ShroomDoom (03/02/15 07:51 AM)

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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #21350959 - 03/02/15 07:52 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

Yes, 100% agree. Everyone using naphtha should keep waste in an empty container to dispose of properly and for their product do a sodium carb wash at the least and re-x in heptane. If this isn't done then yeah using naphtha may be sketchy but just don't cut corners? :shrug:


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #21350969 - 03/02/15 07:58 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

I've read somewhere that you can put your plant material in the microwave for a minute or 2. This way you rupture the cell wall due to pressure from inside, so the goodies become more available. I haven't tried it for myself yet...


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Albertheisenhouer]
    #21351000 - 03/02/15 08:20 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

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I've read somewhere that you can put your plant material in the microwave for a minute or 2. This way you rupture the cell wall due to pressure from inside, so the goodies become more available. I haven't tried it for myself yet...



Sounds viable. Microwaves that are pressurized might work even better. Jusr bust up plant material with water in the microwave, no base needed. Then use the solvent of your choosing to grab goodies.


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #21351031 - 03/02/15 08:34 AM (9 years, 19 days ago)

Now there's a theory.


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: beta_knight]
    #21354361 - 03/02/15 10:54 PM (9 years, 19 days ago)

No, that's a hypothesis :tongue:


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #21354742 - 03/03/15 01:28 AM (9 years, 18 days ago)

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ShroomDoom said:
Quote:

Albertheisenhouer said:
I've read somewhere that you can put your plant material in the microwave for a minute or 2. This way you rupture the cell wall due to pressure from inside, so the goodies become more available. I haven't tried it for myself yet...



Sounds viable. Microwaves that are pressurized might work even better. Jusr bust up plant material with water in the microwave, no base needed. Then use the solvent of your choosing to grab goodies.




You will need some sort of base, otherwise you won't be able to pull the dmt to the solvent layer since it's protonated in plant material


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Re: Maybe a new DMT-extraction theory? [Re: Albertheisenhouer]
    #21354786 - 03/03/15 02:03 AM (9 years, 18 days ago)

Has anybody tried the "lazymans TEK" with ACRB?

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