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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: California]
    #21339296 - 02/27/15 04:39 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I always advise vitamin D cuz most people are deficient from not getting enough sun. B12 is another imporant one, specially for vegetarians/vegans

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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #21339324 - 02/27/15 04:45 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Some people just do better then weed than others based on the way they portray themselves:shrug:

I want to go finish school one day and get a job, being absent minded or burnt out everyday isn't going to help.

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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21339358 - 02/27/15 04:54 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Weed doesn't make you lazy and sedentary, being lazy and sedentary does.
I know people who work manual labor and have tons of energy and smoke weed all day every day.
Now, maybe you could be abusing weed too much and using it as a crutch. It shouldn't control your life.
But it's a total cop out to totally blame weed for not being motivated and having a lack of energy.
I hate when people blame weed for a lack of motivation. Your lack of motivation is what keeps you lacking motivation. You probably just smoke weed mostly as a crutch.
Correlation does not equal causation.

Eat a proper healthy diet, get sunshine and fresh air and some fucking exercise. That will probably do 10x more for you then quitting weed.

By all means, quit weed and keep doing the same thing, and see what changes. Not likely very much.

But if you are abusing the fuck out of weed, it's probably not a terrible idea to cut back some. Excess of anything is bad. Moderation is key.



Saying weed doesn't make people lazy is like saying alcohol doesn't make people slurr their words

"BUT I DONT SLURR MY WORDS WHEN I'M DRUNK SO IT MUST MEAN NOBODY DOES"

Nah, tons of people get lazy when they smoke weed.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: OhMrJohnson]
    #21339364 - 02/27/15 04:55 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Weed makes me motivated (if not smoking 247)
Ive been sober off weed for months with nothing butt the occasiall free drag

But 2 years ago when i was hitting bong rips 247
I was deff sedatated quite a bit


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21339375 - 02/27/15 04:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Saying weed doesn't make people lazy is like saying alcohol doesn't make people slurr their words

"BUT I DONT SLURR MY WORDS WHEN I'M DRUNK SO IT MUST MEAN NOBODY DOES"

Nah, tons of people get lazy when they smoke weed.




Or do lazy people smoke weed?

Correlation does not equal causation doofus.

Tons of motivated people and professional athletes smoke weed too, so how do you explain that.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: SunnyD]
    #21339379 - 02/27/15 04:59 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Weed just makes me not want to be productive

However I could override that effect by sucking it the fuck up and being productive anyway


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21339392 - 02/27/15 05:03 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Saying weed doesn't make people lazy is like saying alcohol doesn't make people slurr their words

"BUT I DONT SLURR MY WORDS WHEN I'M DRUNK SO IT MUST MEAN NOBODY DOES"

Nah, tons of people get lazy when they smoke weed.




Or do lazy people smoke weed?

Correlation does not equal causation doofus.

Tons of motivated people and professional athletes smoke weed too, so how do you explain that.



You're right, it's a complete hoax. Weed doesn't make anybody lazy, Xanax doesn't make people forget, alcohol doesn't make people get in fights, heroin doesn't make people addicted, meth doesn't make people stay up for days on end.

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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21339396 - 02/27/15 05:04 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

You're right about all those things

It's not the drug's fault but the people doing them


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21339402 - 02/27/15 05:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Quote:

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Sheekle said:
Saying weed doesn't make people lazy is like saying alcohol doesn't make people slurr their words

"BUT I DONT SLURR MY WORDS WHEN I'M DRUNK SO IT MUST MEAN NOBODY DOES"

Nah, tons of people get lazy when they smoke weed.




Or do lazy people smoke weed?

Correlation does not equal causation doofus.

Tons of motivated people and professional athletes smoke weed too, so how do you explain that.



You're right, it's a complete hoax. Weed doesn't make anybody lazy, Xanax doesn't make people forget, alcohol doesn't make people get in fights, heroin doesn't make people addicted, meth doesn't make people stay up for days on end.

IT'S ALL JUST A BIG CONSPIRACY




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https://londoncannabisclub.com/cannabis-doesnt-make-you-lazy-being-lazy-makes-you-lazy/
http://cannabisdestiny.com/10-myths-about-marijuana-why-theyre-absurd/

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If you get high and sit on the couch all day, that’s your choice. While smoking makes being bored okay, I prefer to go out and get things done. Whether I have to go to Walmart, work, or the grocery store (dangerous choice!), I want to be stoned. I hate when people try to say that smoking pot makes you lazy. You’re lazy before you smoked pot and now you just have something to justify it with.




End of fucking story.


And tripping on acid 7 times makes you legally insane. And you turn into a glass of orange juice.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: OhMrJohnson] * 1
    #21339405 - 02/27/15 05:07 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Sort of like when people take MDMA they just so happen to coincidentally become extremely kind and loving to everyone.


It's just coincidences, all of it.

They chose to hug those strangers, the MDMA didn't make them do it.


What the hell is this, the god damn chicken or the egg argument?

Might as well try and say that no drug has any effect on anybody ever.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21339412 - 02/27/15 05:09 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

OP didn't even say smoking weed stops him from being motivated. He just said he feels unmotivated all the time, happens to smoke weed, and asks if weed might be contributing.


To deny that weed makes a lot of people prone to staying in one spot for hours on end is downright absurd.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21339414 - 02/27/15 05:09 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Weed affects everyone differently. I've seen a lot of otherwise productive people turn into lazy shits after they smoke, and other people get more motivated after they smoke.

I'm definitely a lot more productive when I've not been smoking.

As much as you don't want there to be any negatives to marijuana, there are. Plenty of them. Especially when abused.

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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: D.M.T]
    #21339422 - 02/27/15 05:10 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

The "modern cannabis club"  and "cannabis destiny"  prove that those people don't get lazier when they smoke weed. It's all placebo bro.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: sprinkles]
    #21339424 - 02/27/15 05:11 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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yes its the weed.  stop smoking fucking weed.  Its a no brainer.




I went from an every day stoner to not much. Simply because oh I got to get a bunch of shit done today rip a bowl. Yeaa none of that shits going to happen. I only smoke at night these days if I smoke at all. :shrug:


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21339427 - 02/27/15 05:12 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Keep buying into the propaganda. The lazy stereotype started with Reefer Madness and is one of the myths people still believe.

http://www.auburn.edu/~schmigr/hemp.html

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7) Is it true that marijuana makes you lazy and unmotivated?

Not if you are a responsible adult, it doesn't. Ask the U.S. Army. They did a study and showed no effect. If this were true, why would many Eastern cultures, and Jamaicans, use marijuana to help them work harder? `Amotivational syndrome' started as a media myth based on the racial stereotype of a lazy Mexican borracho. The prohibitionists claimed that marijuana made people worthless and sluggish. Since then, however, it has been scientifically researched, and a symptom resembling amotivational syndrome has actually been found. However, it only occurs in adolescent teenagers -- adults are not affected.

When a person reaches adolescence, their willingness to work usually increases, but this does not happen for teenagers using marijuana regularly -- even just on the weekends. The actual studies involved monkeys, not humans, and the results are not verified, but older studies which tried to show `amotivational syndrome' usually only suceeded when they studied adolescents. Adults are not effected.

The symptoms are not permanent, and motivation returns to normal levels several months after marijuana smoking stops. However, a small number of people may be unusually sensitive to this effect. One of the monkeys in the experiment was severely amotivated and did not recover. Doctors will need to study this more before they know why.




TL;DR: weed doesn't make you lazy. Being a lazy ass makes you lazy. Some people smoke weed and work out or smoke weed and work hard all day long.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21339436 - 02/27/15 05:14 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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The symptoms are not permanent, and motivation returns to normal levels several months after marijuana smoking stops.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,  several months of long-lasting de-motivation



The observation that weed makes people lazy has literally nothing to do with propaganda at all. It's simple life observation.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Shroomism]
    #21339438 - 02/27/15 05:14 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Keep buying into the propaganda. The lazy stereotype started with Reefer Madness and is one of the myths people still believe.

http://www.auburn.edu/~schmigr/hemp.html

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7) Is it true that marijuana makes you lazy and unmotivated?

Not if you are a responsible adult, it doesn't. Ask the U.S. Army. They did a study and showed no effect. If this were true, why would many Eastern cultures, and Jamaicans, use marijuana to help them work harder? `Amotivational syndrome' started as a media myth based on the racial stereotype of a lazy Mexican borracho. The prohibitionists claimed that marijuana made people worthless and sluggish. Since then, however, it has been scientifically researched, and a symptom resembling amotivational syndrome has actually been found. However, it only occurs in adolescent teenagers -- adults are not affected.

When a person reaches adolescence, their willingness to work usually increases, but this does not happen for teenagers using marijuana regularly -- even just on the weekends. The actual studies involved monkeys, not humans, and the results are not verified, but older studies which tried to show `amotivational syndrome' usually only suceeded when they studied adolescents. Adults are not effected.

The symptoms are not permanent, and motivation returns to normal levels several months after marijuana smoking stops. However, a small number of people may be unusually sensitive to this effect. One of the monkeys in the experiment was severely amotivated and did not recover. Doctors will need to study this more before they know why.






Simple answer:  Sheekle isn't an adult.

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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Sheekle]
    #21339440 - 02/27/15 05:15 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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The symptoms are not permanent, and motivation returns to normal levels several months after marijuana smoking stops.



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,  several months of long-lasting de-motivation





IN ADOLESCENT MONKEYS.

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The actual studies involved monkeys, not humans, and the results are not verified, but older studies which tried to show `amotivational syndrome' usually only suceeded when they studied adolescents. Adults are not effected.




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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: Sheekle] * 1
    #21339444 - 02/27/15 05:16 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

It is pretty much a chicken or the egg discussion.

You could say that people that hug random strangers and are filled with empathy while on MDMA were nice people before ingesting the drug. The MDMA just made them more expressive.

Just like you could say that the reason weed makes people lazy is because those people were lazy to begin with.

I don't agree 100% with the statements above, nor do I disagree with them completely.
Like I said, when I was younger weed (didn't matter what strain) would make me social and extroverted. Nowadays it makes me lethargic and a bit anxious.

So it's hard for me to pick a side in this argument. I think there's truths to both schools of thought.


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Re: I'm tired all the time and I have been for years. Is is the weed? [Re: D.M.T]
    #21339446 - 02/27/15 05:16 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I think it boils down to how much you smoke, when you smoke what do when you smoke, I used o  run and workout and smoke and chill as a treat, or at work ], I bust ass after smoking...Depends on the person, strain, motivation level,  how you use it as your reward system  or just something you do when your board...Depends on the person...:shrug:


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