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Bags too tall for hood?
    #21337735 - 02/27/15 10:44 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Hey guys, so the FH in my sig is 18" tall, works great for jars, but Im making the switch to bags.

My bags stand up pretty close to the top, pouring my quarts in will be tricky to keep in the flow.

Is there a trick to G2G into spawn bags? I have 4 bags in the PC from last night that I need to inoculate.

Trim the bags a little?

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Heres a bag I was practing the motions on in front of the hood


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21337758 - 02/27/15 10:49 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Nah, you're just going to have to develop your own technique of keeping the vessel's opening directly downstream of the flowhood's laminar flow of air while inoculation procedures are performed. 

RR uses a small flowhood.  In RR's videos, if you check out the sawdust sections, he displays his technique of inoculating large gusseted spawn bags full of sterilized woodchips from which you can expand upon.  Same principles apply with the inoculation of sterilized grain substrates in spawn bags.


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21337774 - 02/27/15 10:52 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Haha yea I was just practicing a bit and realized I could open the bag at an angle and pour in... seemed a lot trickier in my head to keep everything in the flow

Ill check out that vid maybe the visual will help me

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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21337800 - 02/27/15 10:55 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

bring your fh close to the edge of the table and when pouring into bags your going to have to drop the bottom of the bag over the edge of table and under the flow of the hood. this way the top of the bag and jars have all the flow hood fresh air needed above the edge of the table.. just a thought..?

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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: Hashish]
    #21337838 - 02/27/15 11:00 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

That is another obvious solution, if i left enough of a lip to set the jar on so I could hold the bottom of the bag with one hand and pour with the other


Actually man the sawdust section only showed him loading bags all the way to the PC cycle, any know which segment shows him pouring inti the bags?


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21337856 - 02/27/15 11:04 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Nah, you're right.  There isn't.  Sorry.  Still though, you are imaginative and innovative enough to realize that your own technique of inoculating bags with your size of flowhood needs to be developed by you.


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: hamloaf]
    #21337880 - 02/27/15 11:09 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Right on man!

Still... I feel better afer asking first... make sure there isnt some real obvious trick I didnt pick up on haha.

I think pulling the hood a little closer to the edge and kinda angling the bag into the flow should work out well.
Thanks guys!

Ill let you know how it went. So I just bunch up the top nice and zip tie yea?


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21337883 - 02/27/15 11:10 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Nah, my bad again.  I just cross referenced my copy of the video and it's in the "Sawdust Inoculation" section.  So sorry for all the flip-flopping, mushpunx.


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21337901 - 02/27/15 11:14 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Ill let you know how it went. So I just bunch up the top nice and zip tie yea?




Yep.

   


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: hamloaf]
    #21337905 - 02/27/15 11:15 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

i have a simple solution for that and i always use a desk with a draw


bag to bag for g2g sucks i all ways make pints to knock up my 3-5 pound grain bags.

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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: bw86]
    #21337936 - 02/27/15 11:23 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Ah! A drawer! That sounds pretty convient. I think I could set a step stool a little below the hood just like that too

Thanks for the photos guys you rule

Yea Im using quart jars as masters no bag to bag


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21337968 - 02/27/15 11:33 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Oh wow. I never watched the sawdust segments because I wasnt working with it. Great info!


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21338153 - 02/27/15 12:24 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Ok so that was a nightmare.

It went OK but was definitly clumbsy the first time from un practiced hands. Probably OK though. After watching RR again I dont think it was as sloppy as I thought I was being, the next guys should be much better.

The bottom two bags, ugh they must have sunk underneath the jar rings a little bit and touched the bottom of the shitty presto and melted.
Definitley thinking about an upgrade in PC.


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21346133 - 02/28/15 09:38 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Alright so round two. Asked a lot of questions and worked out most of the kinks.

I pulled the FH close to the edge of my table and set the spawm bags on the stool, which sits maybe 6 inchs lower than the table. This makes it easy to stand the bag up open, pour in my innoculant, then tilt the bag towards the hood to fill it with clean air. Then I slide the impulse sealer around the back of the bag, and seal the bag facing the FH.

Seemed *very* smooth, I like it alot. Still need practice but I think Ill get there

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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21346816 - 03/01/15 04:20 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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mushpunx said:
Alright so round two. Asked a lot of questions and worked out most of the kinks.

I pulled the FH close to the edge of my table and set the spawm bags on the stool, which sits maybe 6 inchs lower than the table. This makes it easy to stand the bag up open, pour in my innoculant, then tilt the bag towards the hood to fill it with clean air. Then I slide the impulse sealer around the back of the bag, and seal the bag facing the FH.

Seemed *very* smooth, I like it alot. Still need practice but I think Ill get there

Thanks for all thr help!




Thanks for always following through on your threads and updating with results and further questions. I always learn a lot from your threads. :thumbup:

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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21346883 - 03/01/15 06:02 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Alright so round two. Asked a lot of questions and worked out most of the kinks.

I pulled the FH close to the edge of my table and set the spawm bags on the stool, which sits maybe 6 inchs lower than the table. This makes it easy to stand the bag up open, pour in my innoculant, then tilt the bag towards the hood to fill it with clean air. Then I slide the impulse sealer around the back of the bag, and seal the bag facing the FH.

Seemed *very* smooth, I like it alot. Still need practice but I think Ill get there

Thanks for all thr help!



basically what i do, but with a drawer to hold my bags :thumbup:

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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: bw86]
    #21347755 - 03/01/15 11:06 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)



The table I have must have been for a kid or something cause its so short but the stool works for this haha

I still love the drawer idea I might use that in the future. I also tried innoculating with the bag on the FH table and it was fine but clumbsy the first time.


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Re: Bags too tall for hood? [Re: mushpunx]
    #21348401 - 03/01/15 02:07 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

i like to put my flowhood far away from the ground.I like to stand and I was always told there are more and more contams the further you go down a room. I dont know if its true but im sure my floor is nastier then my ceiling.

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