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Powdered vs. Whole Shroom
    #21333120 - 02/26/15 01:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I did some searching through the forums on this topic and couldn't come up with anything that gave a conclusive answer to what I was looking for.

What I am wondering is: As far as long-term storage is concerned, does powdering the mushroom versus leaving it whole make any difference in its shelf-life/longevity? Assuming that both are contained in a vacuum-sealed glass container, that contains a desiccant, and is stored somewhere dark and dry?

Looking forward to hearing the discussion!


\EDIT: bah, I might have posted this in the wrong section, let me know if I need to delete and repost or just move it if need be. Thx/Sorry

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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: RecduRecsu]
    #21333144 - 02/26/15 01:37 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

wouldnt matter really one form or another :shrug:


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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: tripdawg420]
    #21333190 - 02/26/15 01:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I've got powdered cubes in a masin jar that are several years old. As of December I can say that I haven't noticed any degradation at all.

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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #21333328 - 02/26/15 02:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

As long as each are 100% dehydrated it should not matter in my opinion.


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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: dodgem]
    #21333440 - 02/26/15 02:44 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I would think in Theory...the more you break it down...the more o2 can be exposed to it...thus oxidation.

Now how long does whole vs powder...well they may be many years. I can say from experience that I had whole ones dehydrated, vacuum sealed and in a freezer for 3yrs that did loose potency....but YMMV

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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: dodgem]
    #21333447 - 02/26/15 02:45 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think it would make a difference really. I imagine that powering it would be worse though cause of extra surface area exposed to air. Moisture is normally the biggest concern

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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: Crispy22485]
    #21333607 - 02/26/15 03:15 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I take mushrooms in pills.

The pills from my first mono a few months ago are still as strong as the pills I just made from PESA.


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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: taGyo]
    #21334120 - 02/26/15 05:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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taGyo said:
I take mushrooms in pills.




Just a question TaGyo.  Do you powder them and put them in capsules? Or use a pill maker?

I have never done either but I would think to take 5g you would have to take a damn lot of capsules.
If a tablet press, where did you pick it up?

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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: Val]
    #21334125 - 02/26/15 05:05 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Val said:
I would think in Theory...the more you break it down...the more o2 can be exposed to it...thus oxidation.

Now how long does whole vs powder...well they may be many years. I can say from experience that I had whole ones dehydrated, vacuum sealed and in a freezer for 3yrs that did loose potency....but YMMV




thats what i would think


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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: Algo]
    #21334150 - 02/26/15 05:12 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

oxidation is a kind of reaction it doesn't necessarily mean with oxygen. it depends on how the oxidation reaction occurs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redox#Examples_of_redox_reactions

no oxygen, oxidation reaction.

the reactions which "denature" the active chemicals take place when the shrooms are not cracker dry.

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Re: Powdered vs. Whole Shroom [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21334176 - 02/26/15 05:19 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
oxidation is a kind of reaction it doesn't necessarily mean with oxygen. it depends on how the oxidation reaction occurs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redox#Examples_of_redox_reactions

no oxygen, oxidation reaction.

the reactions which "denature" the active chemicals take place when the shrooms are not cracker dry.




Correct.


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