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FakePlasticSky
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I'm back!
#21328741 - 02/25/15 03:12 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well, it's been a year and I just wanted to say hi. I took a long break because of my seriously bad experiences with LSD. I took some last week and it seems my brain reset; having such a wonderful experience playing with energy and crap like that.
Its nice because I still have 4 sheets of needlepoint on hand. My dosing is only 1.5 hits (the paper is dosed at 195 mics). I only trip like every 2 months, so I should be good until I die! Hahaha
Now my problem seems to be DMT. Anytime I smoke it, I have intensely visual and scary experiences. Then I have about a month or 2 of trouble breathing, probably because the purity of the product maybe in question. Whatever the case, the visuals are extremely nightmarish! Its like being in fun house that is just as visual if I open or close my eyes.
So anyway, how is the forum doing?
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aler
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Good, good. Except for the pub a lot has changed...
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FakePlasticSky said: Well, it's been a year and I just wanted to say hi. I took a long break because of my seriously bad experiences with LSD. I took some last week and it seems my brain reset; having such a wonderful experience playing with energy and crap like that.
Its nice because I still have 4 sheets of needlepoint on hand. My dosing is only 1.5 hits (the paper is dosed at 195 mics). I only trip like every 2 months, so I should be good until I die! Hahaha
Now my problem seems to be DMT. Anytime I smoke it, I have intensely visual and scary experiences. Then I have about a month or 2 of trouble breathing, probably because the purity of the product maybe in question. Whatever the case, the visuals are extremely nightmarish! Its like being in fun house that is just as visual if I open or close my eyes.
So anyway, how is the forum doing?
oh man trouble breathing for 1 to 2 months from dmt.
Make your own it's easy and all the cool kids are doing it.
-------------------- Things change fast, but this too shall pass Better carve it on your forehead or tattoo it on your ass Cause who can tell, when the clock strikes twelve If today’s become tomorrow or if it’s all just gone to hell
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Oral
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Welcome back!
If your DMT is causing you breathing difficulties for that long, I think you definitely need to not smoke ANY more AT ALL until you can do a recrystallization to clean up your product. It sounds like there are impurities in your DMT which could be/are extremely dangerous to put into your body.
Did you extract it yourself or buy it?
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FakePlasticSky
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Re: I'm back! [Re: Oral]
#21329835 - 02/25/15 06:57 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Oral said: Welcome back!
If your DMT is causing you breathing difficulties for that long, I think you definitely need to not smoke ANY more AT ALL until you can do a recrystallization to clean up your product. It sounds like there are impurities in your DMT which could be/are extremely dangerous to put into your body.
Did you extract it yourself or buy it?
It was extracted by myself. No one else has this problem but me. I have asthma, so it may be a factor.
My extraction method was the pickling lime, vinegar and naphtha
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FakePlasticSky
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Re: I'm back! [Re: aler]
#21329841 - 02/25/15 06:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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aler said: Good, good. Except for the pub a lot has changed...
Yeah things seem a bit different. I see my private messages are still banned...
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OnePerEyeM8
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Welcome back!
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bigbitch
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I don't like smoking/vaping dmt either op. I'm going to try it again though, as soon as I get the ultimate temp controlled setup, to properly vaporize it. I have asthma aswell, and inahling dmt kills me. I happened upon some high purity stuff, and I snort it. It's soo pretty white, and high purity. I never would snort anything of lower purity. Even the high purity stuff burns alot.
I've had some bad times off of dmt, and mainly dpt too. It was always a huge dose, when I wasn't ready for it though. I feel like it's similar to lsd (as in if you are prepared, in the correct mindstate, you will have a good trip) DMT can get really intense. Just get in that good environment/mindstate, and get ready for it!
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FakePlasticSky
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OnePerEyeM8 said: Welcome back! 
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FakePlasticSky
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bigbitch said: I don't like smoking/vaping dmt either op. I'm going to try it again though, as soon as I get the ultimate temp controlled setup, to properly vaporize it. I have asthma aswell, and inahling dmt kills me. I happened upon some high purity stuff, and I snort it. It's soo pretty white, and high purity. I never would snort anything of lower purity. Even the high purity stuff burns alot.
I've had some bad times off of dmt, and mainly dpt too. It was always a huge dose, when I wasn't ready for it though. I feel like it's similar to lsd (as in if you are prepared, in the correct mindstate, you will have a good trip) DMT can get really intense. Just get in that good environment/mindstate, and get ready for it!
Wait, you can snort DMT? I didn't know this!!!
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s240779

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DMT is catabolized in the intestines. Administration routes other than that which exposes the DMT to the MAO enzymes in the intestines work w.o the use of an MAOI.
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FakePlasticSky
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Re: I'm back! [Re: s240779]
#21331181 - 02/26/15 12:12 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Da2ra said: DMT is catabolized in the intestines. Administration routes other than that which exposes the DMT to the MAO enzymes in the intestines work w.o the use of an MAOI.
Wow maybe snorting is the way to go for me then... My lungs just don't like DMT smoke
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s240779

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And in regard to snorting it, you need to convert it to a compatible salt first. And when substances are converted to their salt versions, the dosage is different as well. Can't discuss dosage here cuz of the 'no dosage advice' rule.
Edited by s240779 (02/26/15 12:33 PM)
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bigbitch
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Re: I'm back! [Re: s240779]
#21332631 - 02/26/15 11:33 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Da2ra said: And in regard to snorting it, you need to convert it to a compatible salt first. And when substances are converted to their salt versions, the dosage is different as well.
Whoa. I didn't know this. I just tried to get the smallest, purest particles possible. I know you can't discuss dosage advice, but can you please link or tell how to convert it to a compatible salt version? If I have some dmt made in a lab, is there any chance it is already in compatible salt form? It does burn pretty bad. I've not been having any issues though, but I don't do it all the time. It still gets me there..
Edited by bigbitch (02/26/15 12:32 PM)
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bigbitch
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FakePlasticSky said: Wow maybe snorting is the way to go for me then... My lungs just don't like DMT smoke
I also wanted to say, I've never perfected ayahuasca, and I've been wanting to do pharmahuasca bad. As long as you can avoid any problems with the maoi, it sounds like the most "side effect free" way to go. Even some of the highest purity dmt, burns so bad. Now Da2ra is telling me they need to be compatable salt form too. It may be easier to just get your hands on some pharmahuasca. I've only snorted dmt once, and dpt a few times. Once I saw how well it worked for dpt recently, I was just like ohh, so now that I found pure dmt, I can snort it too!
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Bill_Oreilly
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welcome back brother
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Re: I'm back! *DELETED* [Re: s240779]
#21332680 - 02/26/15 11:48 AM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Post deleted by FakePlasticSkyReason for deletion: don't want to break rules
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Edited by FakePlasticSky (02/26/15 12:21 PM)
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Bill_Oreilly
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Email me. I want to talk to you, my friend. I would like to trade legal items.
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s240779

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bigbitch said: Whoa. I didn't know this. I just tried to get the smallest, purest particles possible. I know you can't discuss dosage advice, but can you please link or tell how to convert it to a compatible salt version? If I have some dmt made in a lab, is there any chance it is already in compatible salt form? It does burn pretty bad. I've not been having any issues though, but I don't do it all the time. It still gets me there..
Of course there's a chance. Chemists are able to do lots of things in labs. 
The "FASA" method: A summary - DMT Fumarate and Beyond
The fumarate is one of the only salts that can be successfully dehydrated. The other salts collect moisture from the atmosphere for some reason. If you're injecting DMT, you don't need to worry about getting a dry end product, though; you can make a liquid salt using a variety of chemicals, like acetic acid, and then just inject it (acetic acid plus water). But once again, one of the only versions that will successfully dehydrate is the fumarate salt, which is made with fumaric acid.
It it is too hydroscopic. I precipitated DMT HCl in acetone and cyclohexane and as soon the crystals were dried of the solvents, they turned to puddles in about a minute,
12/03/14 - koods - http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20921931#20921931
As far as I know, the reason why fumaric acid is used is because it creates one of the few salts of DMT that is not hygroscopic (absorbing water from the air). You can make DMT citrate or other salts, but getting them to dry is likely to be a problem. I made the hydrochloride using a tiny bit of DMT freebase residue I had left in the bottom of a container. I dried it with a desicant, and yet within a minute after I took it out of the container with the desicant it became wet and stuck to the container I put it in. Within an hour it looked like drops of water. And this was in a very low humidity environment. I can imagine doing this when it was humid. Other salts like the citrate or the hydrochloide are not going to be harmful or anything, but it will be hard to make use of the product.
elphologist
1/4/2010 - https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&m=104115#post104115
And in regard to the change in dose when it is converted from freebase to salt...
DMT occurs as a free base, an HCL, and a fumarate. Although the fumarate crystallizes out easily, it contains only 60% of the pure substance.
The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants. Christian Rätsch, 2005 (p. 852). Emphasis added.
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Bill_Oreilly
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Re: I'm back! [Re: s240779]
#21332853 - 02/26/15 12:31 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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im baaaacckkkkk
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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