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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #21219732 - 02/03/15 07:03 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

:whathesaid:

I see it.

Here are some pics of what you're looking for OP:

Trichoderma On Casing Layer:



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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: taGyo]
    #21223106 - 02/03/15 08:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks guys, I'll keep my eye out for trich. That spot you're referring to was some of the previous casing. I couldn't scrape it all off without damaging the myc so there is about a 1/8" of the previous casing underneath the coir. Everything looks healthy to me! At the rate it's coming through the casing, I think I'll be fruiting Friday or Saturday. I'll keep you posted!!

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
    #21241880 - 02/07/15 11:45 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Fruited today. Though a bit stressful as it was my first time getting a monotub ready, I'm feeling pretty good about the grow. I did have a scare, though - as soon as I pulled the tin foil off the sub, I saw these little white bubbly patches of myc. At first I felt they were trich and something was horribly wrong. I got very depressed for about 10 seconds.

Then I looked closer. I'm hoping you'll confirm my conclusion - I think they're the beginnings of hyphal knots. I went back and did some research on hyphal knots and my hope slowly grew confident. Let me know if you guys agree that I should feel good. The smell is great, nothing otherwise seems off.

Also, let me know if you think I should have gone to fruit sooner. As always, thanks a bunch for your help.


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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
    #21243100 - 02/08/15 10:30 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Those do look like knots to me, and the spot that had looked trichy seems to have filled in with good-looking cubensis myc. In fact, it looks like they might be the same spot.  You have a really nice-looking sub.  Congrats, man.  :thumbup:


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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: Psilicon]
    #21243346 - 02/08/15 11:45 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Just subtsrate, you don't have trich,

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: taGyo]
    #21283709 - 02/16/15 04:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Thought I'd give an update and solicit comments / advice from veteran growers. Overall I would say things are going well, though obviously a full canopy would be ideal. Is a full canopy (if you get one) more common for 2nd flushes, or does it happen with the first if it's going to happen?

Also, I'm having trouble discerning if there is consensus on how to pick flushes from a monotub: should I pick them all at once even if some are small and the veils aren't broken, or should I pick them on a mushroom by mushroom case, as the veil breaks/is about to break?


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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
    #21283722 - 02/16/15 04:07 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Pick them as they mature, when the veils show up or when they tare. I always pick at the tare.

The way that looks I wouldn't expect a full canopy, seems like the myc didn't fully colonize everything. Your second flush could, however, produce more fruits then your first.


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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: taGyo]
    #21283915 - 02/16/15 04:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Fully canopies are often due to the mercy of genetics. Isolates, clones and really limited genetics can really help. If your sub is loaded with strains then all you can do is provide the best conditions possible and hope that most of the strains will fruit at the same time.

With most ms subs I see the first flush blend right into the second often needing to harvest for several days. Given this is your first run with bulk and you cased as well, you should be happy methinks. Especially given ya cased it with cement at first :lmafo:

I will say that it looks a bit dry in there. I suggest you stuff the bottom poly tighter and mist it when you see the coir casing get lighter.

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: taGyo]
    #21283997 - 02/16/15 04:42 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks as always taGyo and Pastywhyte.

Re: genetics, good to know.

Re: casing with cement at first :confused:, I totally agree. Pretty glad, considering it's my first attempt. I've learned a lot. Still hoping to get 50g or so dried, we'll see.

Re: looking a bit dry, I agree. I misted and will stuff the poly a bit tighter.

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
    #21284124 - 02/16/15 05:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

My first attempt went horribly wrong.

Did 10 PF cakes, ordered five premade, one made it out and produced two pitiful fruits.

My first bulk I pulled 5 oz, tripped twice fresh and they were great, then I improperly dried them and lost the rest of the flush.

All a learning experience,

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: taGyo]
    #21285624 - 02/16/15 09:39 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Out of curiosity, how did you improperly dry them?

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
    #21290454 - 02/17/15 08:07 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Update: Looks like I'm going to pull ~180 grams wet from the first flush. This is my biggest one so far. Woot!


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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
    #21290970 - 02/17/15 09:34 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Nice going!

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: Dingaling]
    #21319851 - 02/23/15 08:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Thought I'd give a final update. First flush I managed to pull ~250g wet, second flush is looking more like 100g. In addition to the monotub I also had some PF tek cakes going. The mushrooms that came from those cakes were FAR stumpier (see the fist image below). What causes the difference? Strain is the same - B+.

Just wanted to say thank you to those who gave me advice in this thread. As my first bulk grow I made some serious mistakes, but thanks to you all I managed to still yield a decent(ish) harvest. This only encourages me to refine my skills.

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
    #21320351 - 02/23/15 10:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Congrats on your first bulk grow and welcome to mush cult,

:cheers:

You did a great job,

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Learning is the most important part. How are you drying those cubes?


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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: taGyo]
    #21329453 - 02/25/15 05:28 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks!!

Two days under a fan, then a few days in a sealed jar with desiccant packs. Once cracker dry, I put the jar in my freezer. I'm unsure about the freezer part, let me know if that's a bad idea.

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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
    #21329461 - 02/25/15 05:30 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

No, if they're cracker dry then the freezer is fine. :thumbup:


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