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RuralAnomaly
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: The Lightning]
#21299270 - 02/19/15 02:16 PM (9 years, 6 days ago) |
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oops!
here's maybe something easy but interesting...
this compound is psychoactive, in the broad definition.



maybe a short explanation of why it is considered psychoactive may be in order for a full response.
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PenelopeMushroom
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#21299292 - 02/19/15 02:19 PM (9 years, 6 days ago) |
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RuralAnomaly said:

oops!
here's maybe something easy but interesting...
this compound is psychoactive, in the broad definition.



maybe a short explanation of why it is considered psychoactive may be in order for a full response.
L-Theanine Psychoactive due to its claimed ability to improve cognition and things like being a stress reducer. It's considered psychoactive because of it's ability to alter how your brain functions (mood, etc)
Have 200g sitting next to me and conveniently noticed the image was similar to one I'd seen recently.
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RuralAnomaly
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Theanine is correct! its a neurotransmitter that binds to glutamate receptors - with a lower affinity and is able to pass the blood-brain barrier intact. (according to wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theanine
good catch and good job on the explanation cavefruit, any guess to the fungus pictured?
its an edible, considered by some to be choice, but i haven't eaten any (yet) to be able to offer an opinion.
btw, what do you think of taking the supplements?
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#21304719 - 02/20/15 03:29 PM (9 years, 5 days ago) |
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Dont worry guys Organic chem next quarter. 
-------------------- ~~~~~~***Psilocybin Mushrooms***~~~~~~ _________A Practical Guide To Psilocybin Mushrooms_________ "Think about the species, not your scale". -NeoSporen "Mr. Joust, I see you don't actually partake in the psilocin, but it looks like it may partake in you!" -Gojira
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#21307646 - 02/21/15 10:28 AM (9 years, 4 days ago) |
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RuralAnomaly said: Theanine is correct! its a neurotransmitter that binds to glutamate receptors - with a lower affinity and is able to pass the blood-brain barrier intact. (according to wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theanine
good catch and good job on the explanation cavefruit, any guess to the fungus pictured?
its an edible, considered by some to be choice, but i haven't eaten any (yet) to be able to offer an opinion.
btw, what do you think of taking the supplements?
Looks like a bolete maybe?
I like it. Haven't really experimented enough to see whether it's placebo, but it seems to be relaxing.
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RuralAnomaly
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it is a Bolete.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boletus_badius
i was at the pharmacy yesterday and forgot to look. urgh.
cavefruit, yur up! give us a compound and a mushroom that it is found in!
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#21308998 - 02/21/15 03:54 PM (9 years, 4 days ago) |
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Oh jeez, I haven't seen every reply so I hope I'm not repeating something.
An amino acid

Hopefully this picture is less of a give-away than some would be.
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The Lightning
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cavefruit said: Oh jeez, I haven't seen every reply so I hope I'm not repeating something.
Here's an updated list of the chemicals we've explored so far:
11,11'-dideoxyverticillin A 40S small subunit 6-chloro-4-phenyl-2H-chromen-2-one Acromelic Acid A Aeruginascin Aflatoxin B1 Alpha-Amanitin Altertoxin II Aminoacyl-tRNA (charged) Anandamide Anisaldehyde Antamanide Aquaporin Arabitol Arsphenamine-pentamer Aspergillin Astaxanthin ATP (Adenosine triphosphate) Atromentin Atropine Baeocystin Beta-glucan Betulinic Acid Botcinin A Cajanol Carbon Chitin Chitinases Ciclosporin Citrate Clitocine CO2 (Carbon dioxide) Coprine Cordycepin Cycloprop-2-ene Carboxylic Acid D-Glucose (Dextrose) Daldinal A DOPA decarboxylase DPPH (2,2-diphenyl-1-picrylhydrazyl) Ergotamine Ergothioneine Flammutoxin Fumaric Acid Ganoderic Acid A Gliotoxin Grifolin Griseofulvin Gyromitrin H2O Haematopodin Ibotenic Acid Lampterol (Illudin-S) Lignin Linoleic acid Lovastatin Lucidenic Acid F Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide Monacolin k Muscarine Mycophenolic acid NADP+ Nor-Baeocystin (Nor-Baeocystine, Norbeocystin) Norbadione A Orellanine OXIRANEMETHANOL,3,3'-(1,3-BUTADIYNE-1,4-DIYL)BIS-,(2R-(2ALPHA,3BETA(2'R*,3'R*))) Paclitaxel Palmitic Acid (Hexadecanoic Acid) Penicillin Plectasin Pleuran Pleuromutilin Pleuromutilin Psilocin (Psilocine) Psilocybin (Psilocybine) Riboflavin RNA Polymerase II Seratonin Silibinin Sotolon Sterigmatocystin Strigolactones Strontium Strontium 90 T2 (T-2) Taxol Tenellin Theanine (L-Theanine) Tryptamine Tryptophan Uranium-235 and -236 Variegatic Acid Vitamin D2 Wortmannin Xylarone Zymosan
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An amino acid

Hopefully this picture is less of a give-away than some would be.

Nicely posted!
Edited by The Lightning (02/21/15 04:16 PM)
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: The Lightning]
#21309960 - 02/21/15 06:47 PM (9 years, 3 days ago) |
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ergothioneine flammulina velutipes
I should have asked more clearly what the rules were sorry
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: myceliups]
#21317966 - 02/23/15 02:11 PM (9 years, 2 days ago) |
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myceliups said: ergothioneine flammulina velutipes
I should have asked more clearly what the rules were sorry
Sorry for the delayed response - spot on myceliups!
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Ok. My first shot. Hope it ain't super easy though it probably has been done before. But here we go.
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: myceliups]
#21320517 - 02/23/15 11:01 PM (9 years, 1 day ago) |
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how 'bout Panellus stipticus

and luciferin
except i think its the firefly form of it (i knew it looked familiarish) or at least these folks think so:
http://www.quantum-immortal.net/physics/biolum.php
but if its been isolated from fungus, that would be neat!
also ran across one of our local guru's images in this thread which i felt deserved a few more views just cuz they're pretty awesome.
and butts always look better in fishnets somehow someway
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16032462
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#21321733 - 02/24/15 08:50 AM (9 years, 1 day ago) |
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haha nice. Yup thats it
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RuralAnomaly
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: myceliups]
#21325311 - 02/24/15 09:17 PM (9 years, 20 hours ago) |
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alrighty
this should be pretty straightforward.....
at least starting from the fungus there shouldn't be any problems lol

this one is good for you. in the answer, give a very brief reason why please!


here's the other hint:
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#21328630 - 02/25/15 02:56 PM (9 years, 2 hours ago) |
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Cantharellus cibarius or similar and beta-carotene. Beta-carotene is important because it is a precursor to vitamin A, which is an essential nutrient that helps facilitate proper vision/ eye function. Inside your eye, when light hits vitamin A, it changes its conformation at one of the double bonds. This conformation change causes another conformation change in a special class of proteins known as opsins that bind to vitamin A molecules. This protein conformation change eventually results in the generation of an action potential aka nerve firing, allowing you to see.
tl;dr: carrots
Edit: I'm also curious how the spectra is supposed to be of help. Are you supposed to invert the numbers to get wavelength? This would tell us that the molecule absorbs light in the visible spectrum and is orange, presumably?
Please correct if something is inaccurate. Someone else can take my turn.
Edited by leschampignons (02/25/15 02:58 PM)
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: leschampignons]
#21330545 - 02/25/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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leschampignons said: Cantharellus cibarius or similar and beta-carotene. Beta-carotene is important because it is a precursor to vitamin A, which is an essential nutrient that helps facilitate proper vision/ eye function. Inside your eye, when light hits vitamin A, it changes its conformation at one of the double bonds. This conformation change causes another conformation change in a special class of proteins known as opsins that bind to vitamin A molecules. This protein conformation change eventually results in the generation of an action potential aka nerve firing, allowing you to see.
tl;dr: carrots
Edit: I'm also curious how the spectra is supposed to be of help. Are you supposed to invert the numbers to get wavelength? This would tell us that the molecule absorbs light in the visible spectrum and is orange, presumably?
Please correct if something is inaccurate. Someone else can take my turn.
correctomundo! and ya, i threw in the spectra (without actually vetting its accuracy i must admit) to make one think of 'colours' hopefully.
the authors of this paper do an analysis of quite a few species in their quest for beta-carotene
http://www.researchgate.net/publication/267298221_Do_Bioactive_Carotenoids_Contribute_to_the_Color_of_Edible_Mushrooms
and only found it in the Cantharellus
looks like its open for anyone who wants to toss one out there
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
#21332741 - 02/26/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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RuralAnomaly, is that a HPLC-DAD chromatogram in your post, and if so, what are we looking at?
(Can you please break it down at the introductory level for everyone to understand?)
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: The Lightning]
#21334241 - 02/26/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here's a new guess for you guys (and gals - are there any gals out there?):

Try to get the chemical name and the scientific and common names of the fungus!
Hint: No one in America gets to find this mushroom (growing naturally outdoors), but why?
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: The Lightning]
#21335149 - 02/26/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lentinula edodes
Pantothenic acid
This variety is not native to the states EDIT: for the reason of not having this tree Castanopsis cuspidata
Edited by myceliups (02/26/15 08:04 PM)
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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: myceliups]
#21335186 - 02/26/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd like to know more about that chromatography stat
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