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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
    #21319321 - 02/23/15 06:54 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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So months back I was involved in a MVA. Another drivers failure to yield caused me to hit him going 70  mph (112kph patlal). I got my MRI results and my injuries are as followed.

neck- tears, lesions, disk slipped onto my spinal cord, "obliterated" disk, nerve problems associated with my arms.

Shoulders- ostioarthrosis, type 1 acromion (fracture), numbing from the pinky fingers to the elbows.

Lower back- needing MRI, constant pain

Knees- osgood schlogers, lack of fluid, non ossifying cyst.

They want me to go back to the doctor as have a cervical  spine epidural to stop the pain in by neck and back. Also since the accident I have been getting horrible headaches/migraines that make it impossible to get out of bed.

The person that caused the wreck was employed at a large oil company and my company started acting shady so I got an attorney. My attorney is working hard for me to get my money back I've had to spend and for loss of time at work.

He said I will get any money I've spent, any time I've missed from work and pain and suffering. Since my injuries are so extensive and I have what is considered a spinal cord injury he said I can expect a settlement out of court somewhere between $200,000 and upwards of a million dollars.

That's all fine and dandy but the idea of boing in pain for the rest of my life scares the hell out of me.
I am already missing work and now it's getting harder and harder to play with my son. I hurts to toss him in the air, lift him into a tree and do the things we once did. I know it will get better but it's just hard. Thanks for listening fellow shroomers.



yikes. i wouldnt take a million for my back. dang man, that is rough. what line of work are/were you in?


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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: JesusIsLord]
    #21319435 - 02/23/15 07:25 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Definitely look into kratom OP. It works better for some people, and I could see it not being enough to completely help, but it really is a powerful tool for many purposes.

Even if it only mildly aids with your pain it has great muscle relaxing properties as well as over all mood enhancing effects.

They also have extracts of the more pain killing alkaloids if straight leaf is not enough.

Though some potent Bali kratom can be incredibly sedating and painkilling.

I totally agree about the horrible pharma cycle of $$$, that's why some places have tried banning kratom.

Because people are realizing like cannabis it has a wide range of applications and is readily available, organic, and relatively cheap.

Especially compared to overpriced toxic pills.

I wish you the best OP, and Paladin. I have known people with fibremyalgae and know firsthand it's terrible effects.

Said person ended up a hardcore heroin/ opiate addict for awhile due to her debilitating pain.

Hang in there! I hope everything works out with your settlement, and hopefully overtime things will get better.

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: musiclover420]
    #21319821 - 02/23/15 08:42 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Definitely look into kratom OP. It works better for some people, and I could see it not being enough to completely help, but it really is a powerful tool for many purposes.

Even if it only mildly aids with your pain it has great muscle relaxing properties as well as over all mood enhancing effects.

They also have extracts of the more pain killing alkaloids if straight leaf is not enough.

Though some potent Bali kratom can be incredibly sedating and painkilling.

I totally agree about the horrible pharma cycle of $$$, that's why some places have tried banning kratom.

Because people are realizing like cannabis it has a wide range of applications and is readily available, organic, and relatively cheap.

Especially compared to overpriced toxic pills.

I wish you the best OP, and Paladin. I have known people with fibremyalgae and know firsthand it's terrible effects.

Said person ended up a hardcore heroin/ opiate addict for awhile due to her debilitating pain.

Hang in there! I hope everything works out with your settlement, and hopefully overtime things will get better.

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I will defiantly do that bro. I've been wanting to try kratom for a while and I guess nows the chance!

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
    #21320002 - 02/23/15 09:21 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah, I certainly wouldn't settle your claim until you know the full extent of your injury and have actually received any recommended surgeries and undergone the followup care--typically physical therapy.  Do not let your attorney pressure you into settling before that.  I've never heard of an "obliterated disc."  You mean a dessicated disc?  Sounds that way if it "slipped into your spinal cord" as discs are part of your spinal cord anyways and comprise the buffer between vertebrae.  When the disc dessicates, it can cause the vertebrae to rub up against each other causing significant pain.  How old are you?  Osteoarthritis suggests you're probably middle age at least.  While numbing/tingling in your fingers could be suggestive of a shoulder issue, I tend to see it more due to a disc issue where the nerve is pinched exiting the spinal column in a trauma situation.  Respectfully, there is no way this dude got some lady 4.8 million for a "broken arm and other non-threatening issues."  To me, that is a major red flag.  In addition, as a matter of practice, I never ever tell someone what their settlement potential is until I have all of the medical records and the person has reached maximum medical improvement, or the best they are going to get.  To act contrary is to invite angry clients when their settlement didn't reach what you told them it would.  My understanding is that this is the practice of the better PI attorneys.  Nevertheless, it's good to have an attorney that ostensibly knows the system, as insurers will jerk you around without one.  When did your MVA occur?  Have you undergone physical therapy?  I'm a personal injury attorney.  Feel free to :pm: me with questions if you like.

Edit:  I'm not sure what your work history is like but you should be talking to your attorney about future lost income.  That is going to be the breadwinner in your case.


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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
    #21320080 - 02/23/15 09:38 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

....  :frown: :heart:

That is horrible

They give ya any meds to help the pain in the meantime


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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: All We Perceive]
    #21321168 - 02/24/15 04:53 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I'm not middle aged, I'm young. Ostriarthrosis is a degenerative joint disease typically caused by trauma. "Obliterated" disk is what the doctor used to describe my disk. He said it squished all the jelly out of it. He said for a simple slipped disk he won a lady 58000 and he said typical of my injuries 200,000-1mil. Yes the lady got 4.8 due to the other party being 100% at fault for her injuries. The money isn't my big concern, getting better is.

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
    #21321183 - 02/24/15 05:03 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Oh cool I didn't know you were a PIA!! It happened about seven months ago, a driver failed to yield the right of way at a highway intersection, he was cited for failure to yield, I went to the hospital with whiplash, sore mussels, hurt neck, went to rehab but had to stop due to workmans comp, MRI showed extensive damage, I have been going to the doctor/ getting meds regularly. I still feel like shit.

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Adden]
    #21321213 - 02/24/15 05:24 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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You're not going to get a million. Your lawyer is full of shit. No respectable personal injury lawyer will even give you a ballpark number until you've reached terminal care and he or she begins negotiations.

My MVA left me with seven herniated discs, radicular neuropathy, crushed nerves in my forearms, loss of feeling in the 3rd 4th and 5th digits bilaterally, cervical dystonia, early onset arthritis, rapid disc degeneration, a broken sternoclavicular joint, floating ribs and the list goes on.

After 18 months of physical therapy, 4 years of mental health therapy for PTSD and night terrors, over 350 trigger point injections, a half dozen epidurals, ten nerve ablation surgeries, water therapy, chiropractors, anabolic steroids to regrow muscles, list goes on and on. My muscles are so twisted it's equivalent to having a moderate to severe case of fibromyalgia on top of everything else. I've done an hour of home exercise every morning ever since it happened. I have to apply a TENS unit. The pain is so severe that hydromorphone and Fentanyl patches leave me at an average 6 or 7.

After all was said and done I walked away with $380,000 in my pocket after remaining medical bills, debt incurred and the lawyers 30%. It stole 5 years of my life and ruined my entire musculoskeletal system.

Whichever the case, get better, and be ready to overhaul your lifestyle to fit your now mangled body. It is just the way life is going to be for you now and if you fight it and dwell on how things used to be you will go crazy.

I'm still receiving trigger point injections, paralytics so I can turn my head up/down/left/right, nerve ablations, back braces, epidurals, home exercise, water therapy and soon I'll be having a pain pump installed.

Good luck. Just glad you're alive man.





How is it that a person like me who has had numerous traffic accidents and totaled more vehicles than i can count, continue to live life pain free (other than wrecking my baby and legal consequences) while people like you and him get totally busted up and fucked?  Jesus Christ i feel bad for you guys.  I shouldn't be sitting here having defied death twice by mere inches and 1-2 seconds.  Good lord this world is so fucking weird and strange.  Like Wtf?  I probably shouldn't question why but just be grateful i've been so damn lucky.

I am really sorry your guys quality of life has been affected the ways they have. Especially if ya'wl arent  responsible and victims of someone else retardation and carelessness.  Thank god I never hit anyone, i couldn't live with myself if i hurt someone so badly.  I'd feel bad every day had i done that.  :sad:


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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: sprinkles]
    #21321222 - 02/24/15 05:29 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Were you drunk?

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
    #21325480 - 02/24/15 09:47 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Oh cool I didn't know you were a PIA!! It happened about seven months ago, a driver failed to yield the right of way at a highway intersection, he was cited for failure to yield, I went to the hospital with whiplash, sore mussels, hurt neck, went to rehab but had to stop due to workmans comp, MRI showed extensive damage, I have been going to the doctor/ getting meds regularly. I still feel like shit.




Word.  Does work comp have subrogation?  If so, that is going to take a piece out of your pie.  As you go along the road, I would explore getting out of the work comp system if you haven't already as those doctors are pretty much whores.  Have you tried facet joint injections?  You could explore that as a diagnostic tool to see if a vertebral fusion might be worth it.  Fusions have mixed results but might be worth it if you can't find relief in more conservative ways.  Facet injections sometimes are an effective long-term pain reduction tool too.


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"plus they atually think jambands are good or sumthing, so they clearly know absolutely nothing about music, clearly lol" -Bassfreak

Edited by All We Perceive (02/24/15 09:48 PM)

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: All We Perceive]
    #21329532 - 02/25/15 05:44 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Word.  Does work comp have subrogation?  If so, that is going to take a piece out of your pie.  As you go along the road, I would explore getting out of the work comp system if you haven't already as those doctors are pretty much whores.  Have you tried facet joint injections?  You could explore that as a diagnostic tool to see if a vertebral fusion might be worth it.  Fusions have mixed results but might be worth it if you can't find relief in more conservative ways.  Facet injections sometimes are an effective long-term pain reduction tool too.





I went to the workmans comp doctor twice and then they set me up with physicle therapy that I went to once. I tried to go back to the doctor to refill my prescriptions and they said workmans conp was no longer covering it. Ever since that I've been doing everything on my own out of pocket.

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
    #21329702 - 02/25/15 06:28 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Save absolutely every receipt. Fill up your tank before you go to doctors and when you return home, fill it again and keep that too. If you take time off of work to keep doing all this stuff, keep a log, as this will fall under lost wages as well.

I forgot to add before that when the lawsuit or settlement is over you're going to have to sign that you'll not be using Medicaid funds for the injury in the future. So after the papers are signed at the lawyer, and a doctors office asks if it's injury related, say no as insurance will deny it.

One thing I wish I had done was kept a more detailed pain journal. How this affects your day-to-day life; harder to do house chores, harder to sleep, can't throw a baseball with your son anymore, impact on marital relations, harder to hold a pair of pliers in your left hand and use a wrench in another, things you used to do at work that you can't anymore, grocery shopping, driving your v3hicle, sitting/standing/mobility durations being shortened without increased pain, list goes on.

I stopped writing it after a year and it ended up being years of care. The attorney said that, coupled with PTSD therapy, would've gotten us a much stronger case (aka more money).

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Adden]
    #21329726 - 02/25/15 06:33 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Save absolutely every receipt. Fill up your tank before you go to doctors and when you return home, fill it again and keep that too. If you take time off of work to keep doing all this stuff, keep a log, as this will fall under lost wages as well.

I forgot to add before that when the lawsuit or settlement is over you're going to have to sign that you'll not be using Medicaid funds for the injury in the future. So after the papers are signed at the lawyer, and a doctors office asks if it's injury related, say no as insurance will deny it.

One thing I wish I had done was kept a more detailed pain journal. I stopped writing it after a year and it ended up being years of care. The attorney said that, coupled with PTSD therapy, would've gotten us a much stronger case (aka more money).




I've never seen any medicaid documentation like that.  However, medicaid is an in part state entity so it may be state to state.  One interesting tip too if you are on medicaid is to dispute some of the charges as unrelated even if you are stretching it.  Medicaid is so overworked they will rarely dispute your dispute and they will just write it off.


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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: All We Perceive]
    #21330155 - 02/25/15 07:58 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Save absolutely every receipt. Fill up your tank before you go to doctors and when you return home, fill it again and keep that too. If you take time off of work to keep doing all this stuff, keep a log, as this will fall under lost wages as well.

I forgot to add before that when the lawsuit or settlement is over you're going to have to sign that you'll not be using Medicaid funds for the injury in the future. So after the papers are signed at the lawyer, and a doctors office asks if it's injury related, say no as insurance will deny it.

One thing I wish I had done was kept a more detailed pain journal. I stopped writing it after a year and it ended up being years of care. The attorney said that, coupled with PTSD therapy, would've gotten us a much stronger case (aka more money).




I've never seen any medicaid documentation like that.  However, medicaid is an in part state entity so it may be state to state.  One interesting tip too if you are on medicaid is to dispute some of the charges as unrelated even if you are stretching it.  Medicaid is so overworked they will rarely dispute your dispute and they will just write it off.




My coworker I was with stoped going to the doctor after two weeks and said he was fine, I wasn't. He is still trying to file a claim. I think he fucked himself. I don't care either way, I just want to get better.

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
    #21330209 - 02/25/15 08:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

True, yea.  I regularly tell clients that I can't buy them new arms or legs, which kind of takes the wind out of my sails.  It's an unfortunate consequence of life that money doesn't equal happiness.  As to your friend, he will get something.  You will always get some sort of offer in an MVA situation.  Nevertheless, you must consistently treat to get something decent.


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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: All We Perceive]
    #21330227 - 02/25/15 08:11 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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True, yea.  I regularly tell clients that I can't buy them new arms or legs, which kind of takes the wind out of my sails.  It's an unfortunate consequence of life that money doesn't equal happiness.  As to your friend, he will get something.  You will always get some sort of offer in an MVA situation.  Nevertheless, you must consistently treat to get something decent.




Can you give me a good idea of how much I can expect from this?

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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: Ayahuascasoul]
    #21330249 - 02/25/15 08:17 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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True, yea.  I regularly tell clients that I can't buy them new arms or legs, which kind of takes the wind out of my sails.  It's an unfortunate consequence of life that money doesn't equal happiness.  As to your friend, he will get something.  You will always get some sort of offer in an MVA situation.  Nevertheless, you must consistently treat to get something decent.




Can you give me a good idea of how much I can expect from this?




No.  I would have to read all of your medical records through maximum medical improvement to ascertain your case weaknesses and then know the tort landscape in whatever state your injury occurred in.  In more liberal states, your claim will be worth more, in conservative states, less.  I only practice in my state so I'm only somewhat familiar with other states, mainly on the west coast.  However, if you ever want a referral to an attorney in whatever state your issue is, I can certainly refer you to someone very good via my network here.



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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: All We Perceive]
    #21330278 - 02/25/15 08:24 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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True, yea.  I regularly tell clients that I can't buy them new arms or legs, which kind of takes the wind out of my sails.  It's an unfortunate consequence of life that money doesn't equal happiness.  As to your friend, he will get something.  You will always get some sort of offer in an MVA situation.  Nevertheless, you must consistently treat to get something decent.




Can you give me a good idea of how much I can expect from this?




No.  I would have to read all of your medical records through maximum medical improvement to ascertain your case weaknesses and then know the tort landscape in whatever state your injury occurred in.  In more liberal states, your claim will be worth more, in conservative states, less.  I only practice in my state so I'm only somewhat familiar with other states, mainly on the west coast.  However, if you ever want a referral to an attorney in whatever state your issue is, I can certainly refer you to someone very good via my network here.






Well the lawyer I had was in the top 2% of personal injury lawyers in my state. He got recruited to another office. After that I got a call from the owner of the law firm and he said he would personally take care of my case...

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    #21330286 - 02/25/15 08:26 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Word.  If you're happy with the dude, stay with him.  My only advice is to be careful.  PI attorneys can be very unscrupulous.


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Re: I'm in so much pain! [Re: All We Perceive]
    #21330348 - 02/25/15 08:41 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I figured he gets paid a % of what I win so try will try and get as much as they can for me. My injuries and provable and caused 100% by the driver for that oil company. I had another lawyer tell me he doesn't normally do personal injury cases but he was excited about mine and said it was an open shut case.

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