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Edmunter
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Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ?
#21314762 - 02/22/15 08:05 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just trying to clear something up. Ive always thought this was a good test but an ive now been told its not
To shake or not?
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: Edmunter]
#21314871 - 02/22/15 08:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's a test. it will tell you if it's fucked, but it won't tell you you're 100% safe.
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21315128 - 02/22/15 09:21 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right on man. Im no T C but I have never spawned any rye that looked or smelled questionable and Ive had plenty of trich.
Its pretty good at hiding. It usually waits till fruiting to show itself IME
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: mushpunx]
#21315302 - 02/22/15 10:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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it's usually bacteria that inhibits recovery after a shake. trich is white and most have a hard time distinguishing it recovers too with the shake and so will the cube mycelium.
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21315321 - 02/22/15 10:08 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: it's usually bacteria that inhibits recovery after a shake. trich is white and most have a hard time distinguishing it recovers too with the shake and so will the cube mycelium.
I actually didnt know that. I knew it was good at hiding though. Ive never had bacteria, at least not bad enough to cause a problem. So shake tests, smell tests rarely show contams for me cause I mostly get trich.
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: mushpunx]
#21328096 - 02/25/15 01:21 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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What does trich look like in a grain jar?
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: taGyo]
#21328135 - 02/25/15 01:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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taGyo said: What does trich look like in a grain jar?

Green, when youre lucky enough to see it haha. Otherwise its blended in like camo
Maybe more experienced hands can pick it out but Im not able to detect it in spawn unless its green
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: mushpunx]
#21328142 - 02/25/15 01:28 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You just made me nervous as fuck about this sketch jar I had.
Guess I'm gonna spawn it on its own .
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: taGyo]
#21328159 - 02/25/15 01:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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what the hell is a contamination tcs?
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: bw86]
#21328163 - 02/25/15 01:32 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Apparently only TCs know anything about contams,
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: taGyo]
#21328199 - 02/25/15 01:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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taGyo said: What does trich look like in a grain jar?

Not sure if trich, but mold in one of my grain jars last year.
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#21328214 - 02/25/15 01:40 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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The green or the black?
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: taGyo]
#21328260 - 02/25/15 01:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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green
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
#21328392 - 02/25/15 02:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Gross.
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: taGyo]
#21328961 - 02/25/15 03:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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i thought tcs was the contamintion and he was testing to see if he had it i guess i read that to quick
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: taGyo]
#21329398 - 02/25/15 05:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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taGyo said: What does trich look like in a grain jar?

100% certain this is Trich. It's hard to detect because it can colonize the grains that are also colonized by mushroom mycelium but all you'll see is the mushroom mycelium.
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: Edmunter]
#21329471 - 02/25/15 05:31 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edmunter said: Just trying to clear something up. Ive always thought this was a good test but an ive now been told its not
To shake or not?
it can help it can also prove nothing, i always rely on my eyes and whiffer.
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: cronicr]
#21329694 - 02/25/15 06:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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So do you do it Cron?
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: Edmunter]
#21329803 - 02/25/15 06:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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haven't had to...i can normaly twll if something isn't right but i have had my share of contams get by me lol
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Re: Is the shake test a good test for contamination TCs ? [Re: cronicr]
#21329839 - 02/25/15 06:58 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've had trich-contaminated jars show reluctance recovering, and full-on sporulation in the jar once. I'll grant that it's rare, though, and probably limited only to jars with polyfill lids that allow too much GE and also apparently trichoderma spores.
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