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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Stonehenge] * 2
    #21308938 - 02/21/15 03:33 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

03' invasion was a big deal.  Half saw it as spilling blood for 9/11 didn't really care where it happened, half saw it as aggressive imperialism unwanted and unneeded.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21308953 - 02/21/15 03:36 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Stonehenge said:
I see you are weaseling and backtracking already. You said first:

>The public was not divided in 2003 either.

Now you say

>It was very much in support of it.

Not the same thing at all. Show that the country was not divided in '03 on the issue or admit you lied.



I suppose there were two or three people who thought it was a bad idea.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #21308954 - 02/21/15 03:37 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

:llamastare:


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #21308958 - 02/21/15 03:39 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Almost every poll conducted by YouGov since the Iraq War in 2003 has shown the majority of British public opinion to be against it. However, in the United States there was greater support for the war with a majority of 69% of people believing that the war was being handled well by George W. Bush and his administration, as opposed to in the later half of the 2000s with 54% of people in the United States believing in 2008 that it was the wrong decision to go to war up 32% since a poll in 2003.[1][2]




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_opinion_on_the_Iraq_War


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: zappaisgod] * 2
    #21308959 - 02/21/15 03:40 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

http://www.gallup.com/poll/8038/seventytwo-percent-americans-support-war-against-iraq.aspx

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Seventy-Two Percent of Americans Support War Against Iraq

Bush approval up 13 points to 71%




That is not what I would call a divided electorate.  But Stonehenge can if he likes.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21308964 - 02/21/15 03:41 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

It was poplar before it was unpopular.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21309105 - 02/21/15 04:25 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
Quote:

Stonehenge said:
I see you are weaseling and backtracking already. You said first:

>The public was not divided in 2003 either.

Now you say

>It was very much in support of it.

Not the same thing at all. Show that the country was not divided in '03 on the issue or admit you lied.



I suppose there were two or three people who thought it was a bad idea.




This is the dumbest thing Ive read all day.

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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #21309579 - 02/21/15 04:57 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I posted a link.  If you think a three to one consensus is evidence of a divide then you are, yet again, :flowstone:


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
    #21309671 - 02/21/15 05:24 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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Stonehenge said:
I see you are weaseling and backtracking already. You said first:

>The public was not divided in 2003 either.

Now you say

>It was very much in support of it.

Not the same thing at all. Show that the country was not divided in '03 on the issue or admit you lied.



I suppose there were two or three people who thought it was a bad idea.




This is the dumbest thing Ive read all day.




He is good for that.

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>If you think a three to one consensus is evidence of a divide...

You need to go back to school and learn the definition of words. But most of us realize you know you are wrong and you just enjoy lying.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21313579 - 02/22/15 03:23 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

The US aint nazi germany but its not "good" either.

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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: i like cow poo]
    #21313865 - 02/22/15 05:01 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

US needs a squatting movement :awedance:

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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: i like cow poo]
    #21317869 - 02/23/15 01:53 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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i like cow poo said:
The US aint nazi germany but its not "good" either.





We are doing evil things, things the people don't want but our leaders insist on. What the hell do we care about isis? Let the nutjobs kill each other off, they do a good job of it without our help. Our tax dollars get poured down the drain to the tune of trillions of $$. That money could have fixed our infrastructure which is aged and crumbling. We need new roads, bridges, dams, etc etc. More people are out of work than since the great depression and do not believe the cooked figures from the lying administration.

Even zappa has quietly conceded by slinking away with his tail between his legs.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Does]
    #21317922 - 02/23/15 02:03 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Herbologist said:
Da ber da der der der






the lack of substance in your post is quite telling





What on earth do you mean?

That's an exact quote from all the Libtards in this thread.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21318008 - 02/23/15 02:15 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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i like cow poo said:
The US aint nazi germany but its not "good" either.





We are doing evil things, things the people don't want but our leaders insist on. What the hell do we care about isis? Let the nutjobs kill each other off, they do a good job of it without our help. Our tax dollars get poured down the drain to the tune of trillions of $$. That money could have fixed our infrastructure which is aged and crumbling. We need new roads, bridges, dams, etc etc. More people are out of work than since the great depression and do not believe the cooked figures from the lying administration.

Even zappa has quietly conceded by slinking away with his tail between his legs.




What are you babbling about now?  Trillions of dollars to what, exactly?  What do we care about ISIS?  That they are murderous scum intent on taking over the whole world through violent means to impose their sixth century retardate on everyone.  Are you a Paulbot isolationist retard?  Or a jihadist?  Or just stunningly ignorant?  I'm just asking.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21318193 - 02/23/15 02:48 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

The beast has stirred:

>Trillions of dollars to what, exactly?

A good question. We have gotten no benefit from it ourselves, all that has happened is tons of materials, goods, troops, etc have vanished into a snake pit over there in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and elsewhere. For what exactly, indeed?

>What do we care about ISIS?  That they are murderous scum intent on taking over the whole world through violent means

They aren't attacking us or our allies. End of story. Let the nutjobs kill each other without our help. Saudi Arabia, Jordan and others are taking over the job. No need for uncle obumble to waste more of our resources and lives for nothing. Only the die hard chicken hawks like you are in favor of war.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21318208 - 02/23/15 02:51 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't read all the discussion that has happened since the OP, but considering the execution of Operation Paperclip; the original assertion isn't too far off.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21318214 - 02/23/15 02:52 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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The beast has stirred:

>Trillions of dollars to what, exactly?

A good question. We have gotten no benefit from it ourselves, all that has happened is tons of materials, goods, troops, etc have vanished into a snake pit over there in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and elsewhere. For what exactly, indeed?

>What do we care about ISIS?  That they are murderous scum intent on taking over the whole world through violent means

They aren't attacking us or our allies. End of story. Let the nutjobs kill each other without our help. Saudi Arabia, Jordan and others are taking over the job. No need for uncle obumble to waste more of our resources and lives for nothing. Only the die hard chicken hawks like you are in favor of war.





ISIS isnt attacking us or our allies?  Do you just make all this stuff up?


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21318258 - 02/23/15 02:59 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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The beast has stirred:

>Trillions of dollars to what, exactly?

A good question. We have gotten no benefit from it ourselves, all that has happened is tons of materials, goods, troops, etc have vanished into a snake pit over there in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, and elsewhere. For what exactly, indeed?




What trillions?
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>What do we care about ISIS?  That they are murderous scum intent on taking over the whole world through violent means

They aren't attacking us or our allies. End of story. Let the nutjobs kill each other without our help. Saudi Arabia, Jordan and others are taking over the job. No need for uncle obumble to waste more of our resources and lives for nothing. Only the die hard chicken hawks like you are in favor of war.




I do not think killing scum everywhere to be a waste of resources.  I'm not in favor of war.  ISIS is.  Well if that's what they want that's what they should get.  It will also tend to discourage future adventurers, something that chickens like you tend to ignore.


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: zappaisgod]
    #21318452 - 02/23/15 03:35 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Chicken? Really?

Unless you've recently signed up for the marines, and I haven't heard about it yet, how exactly is your position any less "chicken" than his?


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Re: The US is the Nazi Germany of our time [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #21318456 - 02/23/15 03:36 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Chicken? Really?

Unless you've recently signed up for the marines, and I haven't heard about it yet, how exactly is your position any less "chicken" than his?




He called me a chicken hawk so I called him a chicken.  I am willing to make tough policy decision and he is willing to hide and get 9/11s.  Piss off.


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