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InvisiblePrisoner#1
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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1300487 - 02/11/03 03:58 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Lemme take a pic of my kitchen....I do my experementing there...its bad...I have a window unit for heat, dusty as hell...unwashed dishes...everyday....a doberman and some little mutt....mice, ferrets....Contam City....but I've had 3 jars out of 50 cantam....bad part is I own a flow hood....a Lab model....I just keep it in the lab....thats where I work, n experements, it costs too much.....

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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #1302912 - 02/12/03 01:47 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Well I did have a problem with it It kills spores!!! Im gonna keep on following in roadkill's footsteps.


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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: resin]
    #1309063 - 02/15/03 12:11 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

u got access to that sort of shit in prison?  :tongue: :tongue:


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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: deprave]
    #1309320 - 02/15/03 05:00 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

WTF?^^^^???


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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: deprave]
    #1309666 - 02/15/03 09:11 AM (21 years, 6 days ago)

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u got access to that sort of shit in prison?  :tongue: :tongue: 




You can get anything you want in prison....you just gotta pay the price....hopefuly its just a pack of smokes....thank god I'm not there now....
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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: MicronMagick]
    #1311225 - 02/16/03 06:47 AM (21 years, 5 days ago)

I've been using the oven TEK since I started growing mushrooms with a 5%-10% contam rate at the most. I decided to try out 60 jars without it to see what the difference would be. I used 6 different strains in 6 syringes made at different times all exactly as I always have with no problems. cleaned and Lysoled my bathroom completely and even saran wrapped the toilet and the sink and tub drains. put the jars inside the room and the sprayed the air with bleach solution and let it settle for 15 minutes. Sprayed the air again with bleach while i was in there with a filter mask on and let it settle for another 5 minutes as I set up my alchohol lamp and the area i was going to work on. I wore only boxers and the filter mask and sprayed myself liberally with lysol ( not as fun as it sounds. Damn cold). Working carefully and heating the syringe red hot between each jar I innoculated all of them.

Out of 60 Jars I got 52 contams ranging from lipstick to cobweb to trich. I'm goin back to my oven.

This post in no way is meant to undermine or underestimate anyone's skills or knowledge of growing mushrooms it's just to state what happened to me. Although I know the oven TEK is far from fool proof I had a good thing going there and feel that for me it seems to work fine.


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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1311654 - 02/16/03 10:45 AM (21 years, 5 days ago)

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I've been using the oven TEK since I started growing mushrooms with a 5%-10% contam rate at the most. I decided to try out 60 jars without it to see what the difference would be. I used 6 different strains in 6 syringes made at different times all exactly as I always have with no problems. cleaned and Lysoled my bathroom completely and even saran wrapped the toilet and the sink and tub drains. put the jars inside the room and the sprayed the air with bleach solution and let it settle for 15 minutes. Sprayed the air again with bleach while i was in there with a filter mask on and let it settle for another 5 minutes as I set up my alchohol lamp and the area i was going to work on. I wore only boxers and  the filter mask and sprayed myself liberally with lysol ( not as fun as it sounds. Damn cold). Working carefully and heating the syringe red hot between each jar I innoculated all of them.

    Out of 60 Jars I got 52 contams ranging from lipstick to cobweb to trich. I'm goin back to my oven.

    This post in no way is meant to undermine or underestimate anyone's skills or knowledge of growing mushrooms it's just to state what happened to me. Although I know the oven TEK is far from fool proof I had a good thing going  there and feel that for me it seems to work fine. 




sounds like your bathroom is way nastier than your kitchen.... or maybe it's your filthy ass boxers  :tongue: hahah, j/k...


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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: GratefulDread]
    #1311918 - 02/16/03 12:41 PM (21 years, 5 days ago)

Everyone's, tactics, procedures & air quality differs. What works for some, will not for others, because of differing circumstance & variables.

I had a high contam % rate using the oven tek. Then made a quasi/clean room & the results were far better than the oven tek, working inside it -- in open calm air. Best results - overall - are reached working in front of a flow hood.

Here are pictures of about 200 quart jars, with a few syringe innoc'ed & the majority G2G, all done under quasi/clean room conditions & the contam rate was under 1%. Internal filter material is "tyvek" & the lids & jar tops are covered with double coffe filters, held down with a thick rubber band.

Some days are just like that. Stick with whatever works for you.


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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: Funger]
    #2113618 - 11/16/03 10:44 PM (20 years, 3 months ago)

Why is the gorilla's posts getting deleted? and wtf is a glovebox?


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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: The_LosT_SouL]
    #2130101 - 11/23/03 05:34 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: Anno]
    #2130404 - 11/23/03 11:40 AM (20 years, 2 months ago)

How do you keep the front of a flowhood clean? Turning it on will dislodge nasties but not all at once it may take like an hour for some of the nastie on the filter to break away.

I would like to here what some of yall do to mantain your flowhood.

Its funny, I hear some people promote using gloveboxes with a facemask and computer fan and then I hear the same people knocking the use of an oven. Both suck. I think a sanatized still air enviroment is best when a ulpa box or hood is unavailable.
Its not a good idea to blow partially filtered air across your work.

Like what was said earlier, alot of people would have success inocing pf jars with a clean syringe from a vendor whether they use a crappy filter, oven or nothing at all but when they start g2g and agar they will find that the methods that theyve been sticking to and telling everyone are so great dont even work.


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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: SixTango]
    #2130454 - 11/23/03 12:09 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

Well I did the same thing as Tango. I made a small clean room by using one of these. Just a Martha Stewart closet thingy. For the clean room I got the double size one (39 bucks, 24 for the one in the pic). The thing holds a desk, chair and all working supplies.



Hooked up a air filter to it and boom. I can do my work in the front yard if I want.



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Re: Who started the Rumor [Re: mickywilliams2]
    #2130460 - 11/23/03 12:15 PM (20 years, 2 months ago)

>How do you keep the front of a flowhood clean? Turning it on will>
>dislodge nasties but not all at once it may take like an hour for some of
>the nastie on the filter to break away.

If you are paranoid about it, you could attach a screen to it after work, so no dust can settle on it.

I never did it, I let the hood run for 5 minutes and then do my work, never had problems this way.


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