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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: The Lightning]
    #21299270 - 02/19/15 02:16 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

:facepalm:

oops!

here's maybe something easy but interesting...

this compound is psychoactive, in the broad definition.








maybe a short explanation of why it is considered psychoactive may be in order for a full response.


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #21299292 - 02/19/15 02:19 PM (9 years, 6 days ago)

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:facepalm:

oops!

here's maybe something easy but interesting...

this compound is psychoactive, in the broad definition.








maybe a short explanation of why it is considered psychoactive may be in order for a full response.




L-Theanine
Psychoactive due to its claimed ability to improve cognition and things like being a stress reducer.  It's considered psychoactive because of it's ability to alter how your brain functions (mood, etc)

Have 200g sitting next to me and conveniently noticed the image was similar to one I'd seen recently.


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: PenelopeMushroom]
    #21300965 - 02/19/15 08:36 PM (9 years, 5 days ago)

Theanine is correct!  its a neurotransmitter that binds to glutamate receptors - with a lower affinity and is able to pass the blood-brain barrier intact. (according to wikipedia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theanine

good catch and good job on the explanation cavefruit, any guess to the fungus pictured?

its an edible, considered by some to be choice, but i haven't eaten any (yet) to be able to offer an opinion.

btw, what do you think of taking the supplements?


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #21304719 - 02/20/15 03:29 PM (9 years, 5 days ago)

Dont worry guys Organic chem next quarter. :aweohyou::threadmonitor:


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #21307646 - 02/21/15 10:28 AM (9 years, 4 days ago)

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Theanine is correct!  its a neurotransmitter that binds to glutamate receptors - with a lower affinity and is able to pass the blood-brain barrier intact. (according to wikipedia)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theanine

good catch and good job on the explanation cavefruit, any guess to the fungus pictured?

its an edible, considered by some to be choice, but i haven't eaten any (yet) to be able to offer an opinion.

btw, what do you think of taking the supplements?





Looks like a bolete maybe? 

I like it.  Haven't really experimented enough to see whether it's placebo, but it seems to be relaxing.


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: PenelopeMushroom]
    #21308852 - 02/21/15 03:04 PM (9 years, 4 days ago)

it is a Bolete.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boletus_badius

i was at the pharmacy yesterday and forgot to look.  urgh.

cavefruit, yur up!  give us a compound and a mushroom that it is found in!


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #21308998 - 02/21/15 03:54 PM (9 years, 4 days ago)

Oh jeez, I haven't seen every reply so I hope I'm not repeating something.

An amino acid


Hopefully this picture is less of a give-away than some would be.



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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: PenelopeMushroom]
    #21309080 - 02/21/15 04:14 PM (9 years, 4 days ago)

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Oh jeez, I haven't seen every reply so I hope I'm not repeating something.





Here's an updated list of the chemicals we've explored so far:


11,11'-dideoxyverticillin A
40S small subunit
6-chloro-4-phenyl-2H-chromen-2-one
Acromelic Acid A
Aeruginascin
Aflatoxin B1
Alpha-Amanitin
Altertoxin II
Aminoacyl-tRNA (charged)
Anandamide
Anisaldehyde
Antamanide
Aquaporin
Arabitol
Arsphenamine-pentamer
Aspergillin
Astaxanthin
ATP (Adenosine triphosphate)
Atromentin
Atropine
Baeocystin
Beta-glucan
Betulinic Acid
Botcinin A
Cajanol
Carbon
Chitin
Chitinases
Ciclosporin
Citrate
Clitocine
CO2 (Carbon dioxide)
Coprine
Cordycepin
Cycloprop-2-ene Carboxylic Acid
D-Glucose (Dextrose)
Daldinal A
DOPA decarboxylase
DPPH (2,2-diphenyl-1-picrylhydrazyl)
Ergotamine
Ergothioneine
Flammutoxin
Fumaric Acid
Ganoderic Acid A
Gliotoxin
Grifolin
Griseofulvin
Gyromitrin
H2O
Haematopodin
Ibotenic Acid
Lampterol (Illudin-S)
Lignin
Linoleic acid
Lovastatin
Lucidenic Acid F
Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide
Monacolin k
Muscarine
Mycophenolic acid
NADP+
Nor-Baeocystin (Nor-Baeocystine, Norbeocystin)
Norbadione A
Orellanine
OXIRANEMETHANOL,3,3'-(1,3-BUTADIYNE-1,4-DIYL)BIS-,(2R-(2ALPHA,3BETA(2'R*,3'R*)))
Paclitaxel
Palmitic Acid (Hexadecanoic Acid)
Penicillin
Plectasin
Pleuran
Pleuromutilin
Pleuromutilin
Psilocin (Psilocine)
Psilocybin (Psilocybine)
Riboflavin
RNA Polymerase II
Seratonin
Silibinin
Sotolon
Sterigmatocystin
Strigolactones
Strontium
Strontium 90
T2 (T-2)
Taxol
Tenellin
Theanine (L-Theanine)
Tryptamine
Tryptophan
Uranium-235 and -236
Variegatic Acid
Vitamin D2
Wortmannin
Xylarone
Zymosan



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An amino acid





Hopefully this picture is less of a give-away than some would be.











Nicely posted! :sunny:


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: The Lightning]
    #21309960 - 02/21/15 06:47 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

ergothioneine
flammulina velutipes

I should have asked more clearly what the rules were sorry


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: myceliups]
    #21317966 - 02/23/15 02:11 PM (9 years, 2 days ago)

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ergothioneine
flammulina velutipes

I should have asked more clearly what the rules were sorry





Sorry for the delayed response - spot on myceliups!  :thumbup:


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: PenelopeMushroom]
    #21319323 - 02/23/15 06:54 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

Ok. My first shot. Hope it ain't super easy though it probably has been done before. But here we go.



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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: myceliups]
    #21320517 - 02/23/15 11:01 PM (9 years, 1 day ago)

how 'bout Panellus stipticus



and luciferin

except i think its the firefly form of it (i knew it looked familiarish)
or at least these folks think so:

http://www.quantum-immortal.net/physics/biolum.php

but if its been isolated from fungus, that would be neat!

also ran across one of our local guru's images in this thread which i felt deserved a few more views just cuz they're pretty awesome.

and butts always look better in fishnets somehow someway

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16032462


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #21321733 - 02/24/15 08:50 AM (9 years, 1 day ago)

haha nice. Yup thats it :thumbup:


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: myceliups]
    #21325311 - 02/24/15 09:17 PM (9 years, 20 hours ago)

alrighty

this should be pretty straightforward.....

at least starting from the fungus there shouldn't be any problems lol



this one is good for you.  in the answer, give a very brief reason why please!





here's the other hint:



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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #21328630 - 02/25/15 02:56 PM (9 years, 2 hours ago)

Cantharellus cibarius or similar and beta-carotene. Beta-carotene is important because it is a precursor to vitamin A, which is an essential nutrient that helps facilitate proper vision/ eye function. Inside your eye, when light hits vitamin A, it changes its conformation at one of the double bonds. This conformation change causes another conformation change in a special class of proteins known as opsins that bind to vitamin A molecules. This protein conformation change eventually results in the generation of an action potential aka nerve firing, allowing you to see.

tl;dr: carrots

Edit: I'm also curious how the spectra is supposed to be of help. Are you supposed to invert the numbers to get wavelength? This would tell us that the molecule absorbs light in the visible spectrum and is orange, presumably?

Please correct if something is inaccurate. Someone else can take my turn.


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: leschampignons]
    #21330545 - 02/25/15 09:25 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

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Cantharellus cibarius or similar and beta-carotene. Beta-carotene is important because it is a precursor to vitamin A, which is an essential nutrient that helps facilitate proper vision/ eye function. Inside your eye, when light hits vitamin A, it changes its conformation at one of the double bonds. This conformation change causes another conformation change in a special class of proteins known as opsins that bind to vitamin A molecules. This protein conformation change eventually results in the generation of an action potential aka nerve firing, allowing you to see.

tl;dr: carrots

Edit: I'm also curious how the spectra is supposed to be of help. Are you supposed to invert the numbers to get wavelength? This would tell us that the molecule absorbs light in the visible spectrum and is orange, presumably?

Please correct if something is inaccurate. Someone else can take my turn.




correctomundo!  and ya, i threw in the spectra (without actually vetting its accuracy i must admit) to make one think of 'colours' hopefully.

the authors of this paper do an analysis of quite a few species in their quest for beta-carotene

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/267298221_Do_Bioactive_Carotenoids_Contribute_to_the_Color_of_Edible_Mushrooms

and only found it in the Cantharellus

looks like its open for anyone who wants to toss one out there


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: RuralAnomaly]
    #21332741 - 02/26/15 12:03 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

RuralAnomaly, is that a HPLC-DAD chromatogram in your post, and if so, what are we looking at?


(Can you please break it down at the introductory level for everyone to understand?)


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: The Lightning]
    #21334241 - 02/26/15 05:33 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Here's a new guess for you guys (and gals - are there any gals out there?):









Try to get the chemical name and the scientific and common names of the fungus!


Hint: No one in America gets to find this mushroom (growing naturally outdoors), but why?


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Re: Guess The Fungal / Mushroom Chemical ! [Re: The Lightning]
    #21335149 - 02/26/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

Lentinula edodes

Pantothenic acid

This variety is not native to the states EDIT: for the reason of not having this tree Castanopsis cuspidata


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    #21335186 - 02/26/15 08:08 PM (8 years, 11 months ago)

I'd like to know more about that chromatography stat


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