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Dealing with bad-trippers
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I know it's not their fault, I know it's an accident and you have to help, but sometimes it just pisses me off.

To shorten the story, I gave my girlfriend half a pot cookie, she ate a full one last Friday, same batch, she was fine last Friday. This Friday before she ate, she was telling me a story about girl who drank a tiny bit of alcohol last night, a very small amount and ended up puking a bunch and having her boyfriend take care of her for three hours, she was laughing, kind of ridiculing her. I listened to the story, didn't really make any comments. Anyways I was drinking a bit, I wanted to eat the half cookie and have her drink because I figured it'd just be better.

Anyways about half an hour later she was telling me how weak it was, how she wasn't even feeling anything and that she probly wouldn't.

I had to comfort her for the next two hours, she was tripping pretty bad, and she said she really didnt like it, I had to watch her sleep for the next three.

I know I can't be mad at her or anything, but I think the lack of respect she gave to the drug and to other people is just ridiculous, if you disrespect a drug it will kick your ass! I don't her that after she commented on the cookie's weakness, I said don't underestimate it.

I know it's not her fault, but the lack of respect really got to me. If she had eaten a full one, that would be understandable, but it's not like this is a HUGE amount that she really wasn't used to. I didn't get a thank you or anything and she insisted I stay. I just had better things to do tonight.

Just sort of ranting, I honestly think the lack of respect she gave is the reason she had a bad trip.

Any similiar situations?

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: HeavenlyBlue]
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I agree that in at least some situations a lack of respect for a drug would cause a bad trip. Of course there can be other reasons for bad tripping, but that's probably a significant one, and likely a factor in your girlfriend's bad time.

At the same time I know people who've disrespected far more powerful drugs (acid in particular) and have had good times.

I bad tripped from eating pot once, but that was the first time I did it, I was alone at home, by the time it kicked in I had about an hour until my mom got home, and I had no idea it was going to be as strong as it was. It was more of an experiment than anything.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: NiamhNyx]
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I had that happen i was at a party and i was talking to a guy about legal high i had some HBWR and he offer to buy some. Why not i thought so i told him about the stuff what it does and such.
Well he took 2 seeds 20 min later he took 3 more. Later on i met up with him about 1 hour latter he told me he wanted his money back!
I said No. At this point he was mad and drinking. I did not want this so i said just wait if nothing happens ill give you the money back.
Later i found him on the ground laying on his side throwing up.

Well the guy was young, not so bright and just wanted to get fucked up. The total oposite from me when i take drugs. There are some thing you cant tell them and hope they understand.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: HeavenlyBlue]
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tripping off of pot?


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: motaman]
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motaman said:
tripping off of pot?



It's possible.

My sister cannot handle pot at all. She becomes overly emotional and contemplative. She let's everything bother her and it freaks her out.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: sirreal]
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Yes. The cannabis Spirit can kick your ass if disrespect is shown. The spirit can also show you many great things if respect is shown. Good luck meeting the spirit. Later.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: medicinebag]
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i had one bad trip in all my experiences and it humiliated me that some of my friends had to endure my cries for help during this time. im sure its very irritating to have to sit there and help someone cope with thier own reality as you are with yours at the time, but good friends stick together and are there for one another even through such tough situations.
i had to be a guide to 2 people this last weekend after they took some mush and i was on a very small bit of it, but non the less i was there for them without hesitation. i dont see it as them bringing me down, but me being accepted into thier reality and helping them see they arent alone. learn from others and chalk it all up as experience instead of a bad time.
i only wish my friends would have told me on that one trip that i was "here" and i was "ok" instead of asking for the number to my moms work, so they could call her(luckily i spouted out jibberish to them, so she never showed up or it would have been way worst). i also wish they werent inviting all thier friends to my place to smoke herb in my backyard while i was out of it the whole time. they are good people regardless, but i would have been there 100% of the time guiding "me" through it all instead of letting me journey to hell and back. its alright though, cause its make me reflect more on certain things that are important and dismiss those that are of no concern to "life".

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tripping off pot is a placebo-effect. people freakout over the smallest things. sure pot can be strong depending on the strain, how its grown, people reacting to it, etc.... but by no means does it make you trip(maybe it does or maybe thats just the mush i took with it? haha).

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: energy_ball_within]
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> tripping off pot is a placebo-effect.

Bzzt... incorrect.  Try eating a gram or two of strong hash and then tell us about placebo effect with respect to tripping on cannabis.  :grin:

Large doses of cannabis will cause you to trip... and it isn't fun.  Depending upon how much you eat, the trip/hell can last for several days.  This is much different than the paranoia that sometimes comes from smoking.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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oh ive eaten many grams of some dank. been good too, but i never once tripped.

when you say trip and high. they are two different things. i would never compare weed in anyway ingested or smoked as causing a trip. instead it might have similarities, but theres no tripping involved.

oh and i wouldnt waste hash just to eat it. its rare round here, so id rather smoke it up. i would waste a couple grams here and there of some nugs, but even then its a stretch. id rather get some schwag even know it sucks and bake a batch of good ol brownies.

Edited by energy_ball_within (11/24/03 06:17 AM)

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: energy_ball_within]
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I am a bad tripper. On mush, it is rare for me not to paranoi-freakout. so i dont do it much anymore.

If I take any kind of a break from weed, like a week or two, and then come back to it, especially by hitting a bong pretty hard, I definately trip. It's a very similar paranoi-ic freakout. My heart a-thumps and my mind a-races.

And if I am around ppl I don't want to be around, or doing something I dont want to be doing, I am UNABLE to grin and bear it, as they say. It's like when my mom sees a bird. Have you ever seen a Maury Povich show where they bring on those ppl who need to deal with their phobias? THats how I can get sometimes.

And I hate that. plz help.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: recalcitrant]
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> On mush, it is rare for me not to paranoi-freakout. so i dont do it much anymore.

If it doesn't sit well, don't do it.  :smile:

> And I hate that. plz help

If you're gonna do it, you have to view it like weight lifting or training for a sport.  Start with an ultralow dosage... maybe 0.5g dry.  Take it when you are ready and kick back and listen to some music, or do something that you really enjoy by yourself.  Repeat this every few weeks, until you no longer get worried before taking a 0.5g dosage.

Once you can handle the 0.5, bump it up to 1.0g dry.  Again, do things that you like and enjoy.  Trip alone (with a sitter) or with other people that you enjoy being around.  Don't venture away from your safe area that you are used to tripping in.  You are trying to learn how to enjoy the trip, which takes time and practice.

Each time you get comfortable with a dosage, up the dosage another half gram.  If you ever get to an uncomfortable dosage, then back off the next time.  Don't push yourself... slow is the key.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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you CAN trip off pot

on 4/20 of my senior year in hs I went to a party where all they had to eat was pot brownies, I was young and stupid, so when the munchies came around and all we had to eat was brownies..... well in the end I had about 7 STRONG brownies. I was tripping, no question about it.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Turd]
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So...when you people claim to "trip" off of pot you are having a psychedelic-like experience?! I have eaten good mid-grade pot before and got HIGH as hell, it was a lot better high then smoking it, but I just can't imagine full blown hallucinations from somthing like marijuana, I'll have to try sometime.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Cubieman420]
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It is totally possible to trip on THC.
I have many times. Never from straight bud, but from highly refined oil, or honey oil. I quit puffin for 2 weeks, smoked a large bowl of some nice golden brown oil, then tripped off my ass for about an hour. I got really high at first, then it just kept going up like shrooms do.
I walked outside and the whole world looked like it does in "A waking life". I halucinated for about an hour then i was very stoned/burnout the rest of the day.
Ive smoked just a little honey oil and had pixilation and tracers before also.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Luv_The_Cyans]
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This one is to people who know they are bad trippers. If its your first time and you ate too much, well that happens and i have no problem with that. This is for the people who have tripped 5-10imes and always have a bad time. If you know you are going to have a bad time then dont do them at all, you will just bring down the whole trip level of the group.
I've got a few friends like this that tag along every once in a while and they just make it so much worse. I'll be tripping, loving life, having a great time and along comes X. X is paranoid, X wants to go home and wants everyone to go with him. You re-assure X that nothing is wrong and 10 minutes later he comes to you asking where you are, what you are doing, why you are, and when will you be headed home. X wants the whole group to do exaclty what he wants to do. He'll go from one to the other inturuppting your trip and trying to take you home so he can watch cartoons with you. And when you say no to X you feel bad, bringing down your trip. I have experienced this a few times. It is not fun. It didnt ruin my trips, but wasting half a trip explaining things over and over again is not fun.
If you are X then stay away. If you want to do shrooms, do em alone or with someone willing to take care of you. Dont ruin many other ppls trips.(especially if you know you have done it before)
Shrooms arent for everyone


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Luv_The_Cyans]
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I dunno man, I am a fairly seasoned smoker. I've never heard of anyone tripping from marijuana. And I've consumed over an ounce of hydro in one setting. All it did was make me fall asleep. What do you consider a trip? Seeing visuals? Because if you stare hard enough at anything you will see visuals, its called day dreaming.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Diemos]
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Diemos said:
I dunno man, I am a fairly seasoned smoker. I've never heard of anyone tripping from marijuana. And I've consumed over an ounce of hydro in one setting. All it did was make me fall asleep. What do you consider a trip? Seeing visuals? Because if you stare hard enough at anything you will see visuals, its called day dreaming.




exactly.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: energy_ball_within]
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I never tripped off weed.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Luv_The_Cyans]
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Luv_The_Cyans said:
And when you say no to X you feel bad, bringing down your trip.


Hahhhaehehe!  Nice  :thumbup:


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: energy_ball_within]
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Isn't pot classified as a psychedelic? anyway, I've encoutered so many people like that before, some were even my own friends. I just try to talk some sense into them, make them realize that maybe their distorted view of the world at that moment is conjured up in their heads and that the pot is just acting as a catalyst by making you high enough to not give a fuck what anyone else says about what you think. At this point they're so fuckin' confused it doesn't even matter anymore :grin:


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: soochi]
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> Isn't pot classified as a psychedelic?

It is, and I used to always think this was just another lie created by the war on drugs. However, after eating a large quantity of hash, I changed my mind. I don't know about others, but I have tripped from cannabis. I have never tripped on it from smoking, only when I ate an insane quantity. I wouldn't call the experience fun. In an odd sort of way it reminded me of an upper level DXM trip.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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tell me this seuss. do you think you would trip or become more paranoid on herb if you didnt know what tripping was like?

i think it boils down to the fact that most who feel this odd trip from herb is more or less a mind trick brought on by all the other drugs they have taken and now herb could take on such a similarity. i mean does one flat out trip on herb if one never really experienced a trip before? i have felt this trippy feeling from herb, but simply dismiss it, cause i know my anxiety, drugs in use, and my mind play a big role in how i percieve this drug affecting me. now when i smoked herb by itself when i was younger about 9 yrs ago before i tried any psychodelic i never would have claimed to be tripping just high of weed.

then again everyone isnt similar in the way they think/feel/see/etc. chemicals reacte different for others and reaction to drugs are different. no one drug is the same to one person as it is to another. maybe similarities and maybe this is were im wrong in my statement. maybe im ignorant for not beleiving people might possibly trip off herb. ive had this same debate with friends in the past, but we never actually came up with one answer....

it went something like this. "it could make you trip. no it cant!"

if you trip of herb, well then lucky you!

(oh yeah forgot to mention after a trip days later to a week or more i will feel like im trippin again if i smoke some nugs which i always do anyhow, but thats the only time i feel like i am "tripping" on herb. other times its just the placebo-effect that i dismiss. gotta love that afterglow mush gives ya.)

Edited by energy_ball_within (11/25/03 08:05 AM)

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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Quote:
  In an odd sort of way it reminded me of an upper level DXM trip. 



Yeah, me too. Real trippy.

Although, I think that an upper level dxm trip is fun. Well, except for the part in the middle when I feel like I am being scrutinized by God himself. That part is just to intense to be called fun. :nut: 


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: energy_ball_within]
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> tell me this seuss. do you think you would trip or become more paranoid on herb if you didnt know what tripping was like?


I honestly believe cannabis has two levels.  The first level is what most people experience when smoking.  New users often get paranoid, or hear voices over their shoulder, etc.  After a while, you get used to the effects and these negative aspects tend to vanish.  When most new smokers talk about tripping on cannabis, I beleive this is what they are refering to.

But there is another level that cannabis can take one to.  If you take a lot of the drug, a person begins to trip.  I'm not talking about the paranoia or any of the other effects that new users get... more like reality melting away, confusion, perception changes, etc.  Of all the various drugs I have tried, the effects remind me most of an upper level DXM trip.  I don't think this is my mind confusing itself into some sort of drug induced long lasting flashback, but rather a direct effect of the large dosage of cannabis that has been consumed.  Of course, I could be wrong as well...  :smile:

I have never been able to smoke myself to the trippy level with cannabis... I always tend to pass out instead, or get too heavy to bother smoking any more.  Eating large quantities is an entirely different story, however. 


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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large...like what, an eigth? I am going to have to confirm this for myself....


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Cubieman420]
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> large...like what, an eigth?

Donno... when I tried it, I ate just over a gram of hash in Amsterdam. I have no idea what that would relate to in oz of bud.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> large...like what, an eigth?

Donno... when I tried it, I ate just over a gram of hash in Amsterdam. I have no idea what that would relate to in oz of bud.


An eighth is an eighth, I believe. That would be about a third of an eighth.



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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: sirreal]
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> An eighth is an eighth,

But there is a lot more THC in an eighth of hash than in an eighth of bud... just like a glass of wine isn't near as strong as a glass of everclear.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> An eighth is an eighth,

But there is a lot more THC in an eighth of hash than in an eighth of bud... just like a glass of wine isn't near as strong as a glass of everclear.



Oops!

I thought he was asking about an eighth of hash.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: sirreal]
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> Oops!  I thought he was asking about an eighth of hash.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that makes those mistakes...  :grin:

So, how much good bud would you need to equate to a gram of hash?


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: sirreal]
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ive eaten a good 3 brownies about 3x3 in size and made with an oz of some schwag and it kicked my ass, but still no trip just really stoned and i felt like a damn rock. ive also ingested grams of nug from time to time within cannabutter on various foods. the whole eating thing just doesnt affect me as much as smoking. the only time i could see myself literally tripping on herb is when i am meditating under the influence of it, but then again i am trying to tap into various parts of my mind, so maybe its just my mind playing tricks on me. i prefer smoking over eating, cause i really dont wanna do anything after easting herb. im just lazy as hell after eating herb. i never tried straight up hash(keef) with food, but i cant see it do anything more than what i have experienced already in past attempts.

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[Seuss said:
> large...like what, an eigth?

Donno... when I tried it, I ate just over a gram of hash in Amsterdam. I have no idea what that would relate to in oz of bud.]

1 oz = 28 grams, but thats stems, seeds(if its schwag), bud. so im not sure considering hash is all keef.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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A Hashish Overdose
from The Natural Mind
by Andrew Weil
p. 50-51



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In 1968, when I was studying marihuana in Boston, I deliberately consumed an overdose (6 grams) of potent hashish in order to experience this reaction. I took it orally, under observation, and kept notes as long as I was able. The effects of the drug were felt within forty minutes and were pleasant but strong for about a half-hour. Thereafter, things became quite confusing. I could not understand what was said to me, felt physically sick, and soon was unfit to do anything but lie in bed and wait for morning. Auditory hallucinations were prominent, especially threatening voices that rose in volume to a crescendo, the faded out. For about twelve hours I remained in a stage of consciousness between sleeping and waking, marked by vivid nightmares. Lucid intervals were rare; for much of the time I did not know where I was, even thinking I was six years old and sick from measles. By morning, most of the worst symptoms had disappeared, but I had a powerful hangover that left me prostrate for another twenty-four hours. I would not willingly repeat the experience.






I found this on erowid. Pretty interesting.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Seuss]
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I remember eating a couple browines one time that kicked my ass pretty good. I might have had some visual distortion but I don't really remember, I just was so stoned I could barely walk.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: gdman]
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Quote:

things became quite confusing. I could not understand what was said to me, felt physically sick, and soon was unfit to do anything but lie in bed and wait for morning. Auditory hallucinations were prominent, especially threatening voices that rose in volume to a crescendo, the faded out. For about twelve hours I remained in a stage of consciousness between sleeping and waking, marked by vivid nightmares. Lucid intervals were rare;




The bolded sections are similiar to what I experienced... hence my likening of it to a high level DXM trip. I don't remember any voices, but I wasn't in much of a mental state to remember anything...


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: gdman]
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http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_spirit6.shtml

I like a lot of this guy's opinions. Marijuana has more potential than a lot of people think, it all depends on your goals.

If I haven't smoked for awhile and I hit a hookah or something like that, I am going to trip. Usually I also feel like I'm vibrating the whole time, and it does suck if you're not doing whatever you'd rather be doing at the time.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Smaug]
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I ate 2 hash brownies and iI felt evry molecule in my body vibrating..

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Bhairabas]
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suess: me too, almost exactly. Also I had a similar experience one night when I tried to go to sleep on the end of a mushroom trip. I fell asleep with my eyes open, and all my dreams took place as if the wall I was staring at was a floor (as if I was looking down). I was watching people walk around on my wall, it was strange.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: energy_ball_within]
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You can trip from smoking Herb. It depends on the strain of grass. A sativa is more trippy than an indica. Sativas like Thais and Africans are more hallucinagenic because they contain are extremely high in THC and THCV with little or no CBD or CBN. I remember the first time I was introduced to Quality Reefer. I can honestly say I saw tracers like as if I had taken a quarter hit of acid. When the quality is so fuckin above par, and your only use to smoking schwag the experiece can be considered, Trippy. Later.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: medicinebag]
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Interesting link, Smaug... I'm letting it sink in right now.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Alan Stone]
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when i was voulenteering in vancouver, i met a kid in brittania park who had a tray full of muffins, he was giving them away and offered me one. i was all "mmm, they smell good, and still warm. hey man, are they special?" he was all "well let me put it this way" and opened one up, it was green inside.
i was like "cool" i took it home and sat down on the couch with my house-mates, i ate it (i was NOT permitted to do drugs, it would get me kicked out and shipped home, however i secretly did TONS of shit)
i diddnt notice anything except itwas the most delicious and moist muffin ive ever had. i started playing guitar, now when I play guitar on pot, i become one with the music. immagine my surprise when afterabout an hour i start becomming one with the music. I though cool, im a bit high, one of my project mates a few months prior had gien me piles of fruitcake with hash butter and i felt nothing so i was surprised to feel anything at all.
a few minutes later i was feeling downright stoned. i realized i couldnt be caught that stoned so i went to bed, nobody would say anything because i had been in comman company for oer an hour and haddnt smoked pot.
by the time i got downstairs i could hardly stand up and i started to hear things, like somebody frigginh with a radio tuner in my brain, the place was going totally sideways and i was feeling a bit beyond comfort.
i got into bed and the room spun into confusion, i think i blacked out a few times, i was higher than i can remember ever being, i was looking at the top bunk (from the bottom) and hallucinated tbat it was a door, to a convinience store, a screen door, i was inside looking through the screen to the outside, i could hear children outside chanting "scardy cat scardy cat"
i thought, holy shit! this is really fucking out there man.

moral of the story, always except strange muffins from strangers in vancouer


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Mitchnast]
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Must of been alot of something or other in those muffins mitch.

My girlfriend often trips bad, which isn't the best for me. She speaks her thoughts in a monotone voice, over reacts to all occurrences, and absouletley freaks out when she gets the slightest bit uncomfortable. This is on 1.5 g of cubies.

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I hate it when people go into a situation assuming they can control all the variables and end up getting disrespected by the drug. I try to control my trips to an extent but leave a a wide enough margin to disassociate myself with reality, this has always rendered incredibly spiritual experiences for myself and close friends who approach these situations similarily.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: daft]
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i posted earlier that i never tripped on just bud....i take it back.
I have this strain called Texeda Timewarp. Its grows in the pacific northwest(BC BUD YEYE) by many people, but this particular batch is from an old man whos been growing it for over 20 years. This shizzat is the bomb. I bin smokin it since harvest, but the last time i picked up it was all really nicely cured. One decent bowl(.25gms) and i was high before i exhaled. Within about 20 mins i had minor tracers and visual distortion...almost like a small dose of shrooms. I get the same thing when i smoke this shit outa the hooka. If anyone ever gets a chance to obtain some of this GET YOUR HANDS ON IT. Ive smoked hash that didnt get me that high.


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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: Luv_The_Cyans]
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I just think that you have to show the bad-trippers what tripping is really all about. Once they understand what mushrooms are for, then they will become good tripping buddies.

Me and my friend have both been to the same places, and one time we tripped with a few girls (all experienced) and one friend that had only tripped once before, and by the way he talked about shrooms, it was obvious he had had a bad trip the first time, and was very anxious before munching.
He is one of my best friends, but he's not a good tripping buddy because he's not willing to let himself "go" in the world of shrooms. I think he could have had a better trip if we weren't such a big group, and if I could have had a nice talk with him while tripping.

I tripped with two friends, one being the one i always trip with, and the other having done shrooms a couple times and never really liked them, he said "mushrooms make you all depressed and shit". We tripped, and because he was around my other friend and I, he learned what mushshrooms can be all about and had a great trip. We talked alot during the trip and the way the mushrooms bring people together are what changed his outlook on life, and shrooms.

I just think that anybody can love shrooms just as I do if they learn to "let go" of the current world you are in now, and just go to another place for a while and bring back a few good things.

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Re: Dealing with bad-trippers [Re: HeavenlyBlue]
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A friend of mine tripped with some vague "aquantances" and they abandoned her downtown on her first trip, she was completely lost, as familiar as the city had seemed before. What they did was pretty low... but still, I don't think people should be doing any drug let alone a psychadellic with people you don't trust. Mushrooms themselves aren't harmful, it's only the environment that can be harmful. Plus, I find them much more enjoyable with people you enjoy spending time with.


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