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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Starter]
    #2131932 - 11/24/03 10:06 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

>Perhaps you could post some pics of your miraculous accomplishments with misting,

Sure.






And now? Is this a proof that misting is better or worse than dunking? Off course not!
I never said dunking was bad. I said it was not needed for casings. And I stay with this claim.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Anno]
    #2131947 - 11/24/03 10:18 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Anno, you?re the best. :thumbup: :grin:

What do you have to say now, STARTER ?

I wish I had a digital camera so I could do the same as Anno. Besides, if you come to Spain, PM me and I will show you my stuff (without dunking).


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2131997 - 11/24/03 10:40 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2131998 - 11/24/03 10:42 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

i think starter wanted to try and prove that he gets MORE out of dunking his casings than by misting them, so that works best for HIM.

in all seriousness, who gives a fuck, me being a newbie, i learned from this thread that it doesnt necessarily matter at all whether u dunk or mist.  Since i would grow like anno, and grow a fuckload, i would just mist :smile: and keep it as convenient as possible.

now....if i happen to dunk my casing one day and it shows superior results, then i will think back to this discussion, and smile.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: ]
    #2132183 - 11/24/03 12:19 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Anno, do you just mist until the casing is saturated after each flush?

After seeing your pictures a detailed description of your technique would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for any help.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: MycoCat]
    #2132189 - 11/24/03 12:23 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

>Anno, do you just mist until the casing is saturated after each flush?

Yes, and after that I periodicaly mist so the casing never dries out.
It should be moist all the time, but not dripping wet.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Anno]
    #2132193 - 11/24/03 12:26 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Aren't you supposed to stop misting when the casing begins to fruit? Or do you just mist around the mushrooms?


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Anno]
    #2132200 - 11/24/03 12:28 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

You are correct, that proves absolutely nothing as anecdotal evidence is just that...

Although you later qualified it, the following categorical statement- combined with the unnecessary and sarcastic "dog dunking" comment- probably caused the problems: "I can only repeat myself: a casing is sprayed with water, not dunked." Someone with Starter's skills in MANY areas of the "vegetable" (in the Aristotealean, "animal, vegetable and mineral" sense) context is going to be defensive when their experience is completely different and has been made public.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: KentuckyPWRLFTR]
    #2132207 - 11/24/03 12:32 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

A little sarcasm now and then is what makes the life sweet :wink:

As for misting once the casing begins to fruit, read http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23446


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Anno]
    #2132210 - 11/24/03 12:33 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Thank you Anno.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2132230 - 11/24/03 12:43 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I was going to post extolling the virtues of Starter but I don't care much for being an ass-kisser...Know what I mean? (Actually, I did give him some kudos)

What the hell did your post add to the discussion besides your wide-eyed wonder at Anno's bounty? Your post did nothing but needlessly slap at Starter when you weren't even involved in the discussion. If you want to compliment Anno that's one thing but the unnecessary slam on Starter is stupid.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: KentuckyPWRLFTR]
    #2132235 - 11/24/03 12:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It's been proven that both methods work. This thread has run it's course.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Magash]
    #2132241 - 11/24/03 12:49 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

True.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: KentuckyPWRLFTR]
    #2132339 - 11/24/03 01:32 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Excuse me man, are you his big brother or something ? Maybe you should read the whole thread and see how he did enter the discussion saying : "I say no to the no sayers". He posted the same thing in another thread and if you read it I?m still waiting an answer. About stupidity, maybe you?re as stupid as me cause you didn?t add something new about what we were talking about here, at least I said something involved within this thread. You?re just acting like a judge, something no one is doing besides you.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2132418 - 11/24/03 02:09 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Who are you talking to?


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2132431 - 11/24/03 02:14 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Excuse me man, are you his big brother or something ?

*No. I am his friend.*

Maybe you should read the whole thread and see how he did enter the discussion saying : "I say no to the no sayers".

*I have read the whole thread, it was through the process of reading which I discovered the assinine "slap" post that you put up.*

He posted the same thing in another thread and if you read it I?m still waiting an answer.

*I could not possibly care less about what you posted in another thread.*

About stupidity, maybe you?re as stupid as me

*Nope, no way man...*

at least I said something involved within this thread.

*No. You typed a superfluous slap at Starter.*

You?re just acting like a judge, something no one is doing besides you.

*No. I merely made an observation as to your needless slap. You can like it or not, doesn't mean shit...*


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Anno]
    #2132474 - 11/24/03 02:38 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Whatever floats your boat, sarcasm or not Anno.

Point is (if you dunk) you do so after 1st flush. Not before. And at risk of repeating, I'm talking cased grain. Can I see flushes after the 1st one thanks? After all, it's after the 1st flush where dunks are done (at risk of repeating) because they get the water sucked out of them on the 1st flush.

Bottom line, your 1st flush game-plan is the same as what I do, though I dribble with a syringe, not spray. Small difference. No dunk though. So the silly pic of "Dunk Free 100% Guaranteed" of a 1st flush tray pic is obviously more obfuscation.

I'm not here to make a scene, but getting water into post-1st flush trays (as per what I have done) works. 500 gram millet substrate gets very dry after it throws out greater than half a kg wet flush, to as high as 1030 grams wet (if I had a digital at the time i would have shown it). It sure sucks the wet stuff out of it. For the small personal grower -- dunking -- is a good way to play it to get the life giving liquid back into it and very easily too.

I'm not talking 10 or 20 trays. Obviously if you're running such numbers of trays, this won't be practical. What I speak of is for the small shroom grower and I have furnished pics that give that. But since I don't cash crop shrooms I won't be running 10 to 20 trays -- I'm a dope grower, got that Semilanceata -- I won't be growing large quantities of cubes. I grow for personal shrooms only.







Obviously Annos' take i.e. 10 to 20 trays is the cash-cropper shroom paradigm evident in the shroomery, and I have no prejudice to that.

(yes Anno, I'm aware you're in Austria and it's as legal as A.bisporus, so you can compost them as soon as grow them -- but that's not the caper for the commerical op US cubie growers.

However who would be doing grains at that level? I never suggested that. It would be obviously logical to use it as spawn, which would serve 10 to even 20 times the distance as spawn on bulk. Bulk of course would fail in a dunk, it would hold far too much water. Same again, if you were crazy enough to do cased grains in large numbers...because dunking large numbers of trays would be impractical.

It would be just as impractical too if you tried FIM or super cropping on commercial scale Cannabis grows, but absolutely ideal for the closet cultivator. I suggest walk in the other guy's moccasins and you'll see it from both ends. Small scale and dunks are fine.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: KentuckyPWRLFTR]
    #2132521 - 11/24/03 02:59 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

KentuckyPWRLFTR said:

About stupidity, maybe you?re as stupid as me

*Nope, no way man...*






Sorry man I was wrong, after reading your reply I can tell you are 3 or 4 time more stupid.


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Semilanceata]
    #2132540 - 11/24/03 03:13 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Coming from a total cretin, I can hardly take offense, but...


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Re: how do you dunk a casing? [Re: Starter]
    #2132552 - 11/24/03 03:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Nice little bud set up you have.















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