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OfflineLagerHolm
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The effect of shrooms have changed for me?
    #21297682 - 02/19/15 09:08 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Im wondering what this is all about. I started using shrooms about three years back, first tripping every 1 or 2 weeks with two of my good friends, and it was all enjoyable, fun and enlightening. But after the first ~15 trips, to my surprise, i got one hell of a trip. I took about 2 grams, just like before, but this time i was tripping harder than ever.

It felt like it lasted forever, i was laying on the floor listening to my thoughts and seeing random snapshots from my memories, also felt like i was right on the edge from disconnecting from my body. The objects in the room started changing forms, the moving cars outside looked like they were some kind of upside-down-batmobiles. It was a really mindfucking experiece. Pretty much layed on the floor in fetal position, waited for it to end. When the effect started to come down, it got more enjoyable, but everything i looked at was still really fucked up. I was really happy when the trip was finally over.

Now, the next two trips i did alone. I was scared to take a dose like last time, so first i took about 1.6 grams, and fuck it was hell. Never felt so uncomfortable before. It was so intense i just wanted to cry, going to the bathroom all the time to piss the "poison" out of my system. It didn't work, but i was really desperate. :laugh:

It lasted like 5 or 6 hours, and this whole time i was either laying on my bed or walking in circles in my room or going to the bathroom, all the time hoping it would end. I couldn't close my eyes, because the closed eye visuals were so intense and frightening, i was scared what i would see. But keeping eyes open wasn't much better either, it was really frightening how much my world had changed, nothing was like before. I couldn't concentrate looking at one spot for longer than 1 second, i had to look everywhere all the time and it was really exhausting. It just felt like hell and boy, was i happy when it was over.

The second trip, this time i took 1.4 grams, again alone. And fucking hell, it was even worse this time. To be honest, i dont remember much what happened but i only remember it was much harder than the 1.6g trip. I couldn't listen to music, i couldn't keep my eyes closed, i couldn't stay still, i remember one point when i wasn't sure where even i were and started hearing a voice in my head, saying some words to me. I remember the last word was "Love", and at that point i calmed down a little, and the trip started to go down. After it was over, i went for a walk in the nature, and i was literally crying and laughing from happiness, i had never felt so light and clear. It was a huge thing for me when i got through the trip, because for me it was hell.

But now, after these 3 trips, i've been quite scared to try shrooms again. After these bad trips, i've taken shrooms twice, once 1g 1g (~45 minutes in between), and 1g 0.5g (also ~45 minutes in between), and both times it felt like it would go bad again, like it was just around the corner. The trips never went bad, but they were not very enjoyable either. The later 1g 0.5g trip was quite nice still, as it got really intense but not bad, even though i was a little afraid it would. But in enjoyability, it was nothing like the trips before the 3 bad trips. I've tried LSD and nbome once after the bad trips, and they were really enjoyable, but shroom trips are still

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OfflineOliverJames
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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: LagerHolm]
    #21297829 - 02/19/15 09:37 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Pretty much experienced the exact same thing man

My first number of trips were incredible, enlightening, and euphoria. I had one horrific and scarring trip, ever since then, I pretty much can't do mushrooms. I just can't shake the memory no matter how hard I try. If I take a benzo before taking shrooms, I can handle them much better though.

Nowadays I only mess with L and its analogs:shrug:

Its unfortunate that the substance has sorta been ruined for me, but I'm done trying to enjoy a substance that simply isn't enjoyable for me anymore

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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: OliverJames]
    #21297879 - 02/19/15 09:50 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Damn man, what a shame. :frown:
I've just started a grow project so I'm gonna give it a go. I really love mushies and it's quite heartbreaking to think about the possibility of never being able to enjoy them again.

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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: LagerHolm]
    #21298181 - 02/19/15 10:48 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, are these cubensis that you're taking? If so, you must have a great batch. Just try lower doses if the higher ones scatter you. Be thankful that you can get a nice trip on 1 gram...that should stretch your stash for a while.

Don't pay attention to people telling you that you have to take a higher dose... if they don't agree with you...easy does it. They almost sound like cyans or azzies by the way you are talking though.:sunny::peace:


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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #21298449 - 02/19/15 11:45 AM (9 years, 2 months ago)

After taking mushrooms for a while, the experience started to change for me too. I didn't need to take as many mushrooms to get to the same state of mind. At first it was just tripping and having a good time with them. Enjoying the visuals, laughing, and just basically having a great ass time. But then I started to having trips that really made me think. At first they were bad because I was fighting the experience and couldn't accept what was happening, what was going through my head. Then I started to listen to what the experience was telling me. It's not just for kicks and giggles.
It's much deeper and weirder than I had ever imagined before. There is a lot to learn from mushrooms. Don't take advantage and use it just like any other drug. They will open your mind and change the way you think. It will shove your fears in your face, Bring them right out of the closet. You now have to face your fears in order to let go and lose yourself in the experience. The biggest fear is that of the unknown and that is exactly where it will take you. It will take your ego away... your sense of self. Just let it happen. You literally won't know who or what you are but you don't need to. That's where the real fun begins. Separation becomes non-existent. Time and space is out of the picture. Oneness as some call it. Then you create your own reality. Whatever your thinking will become reality. Real Creation.

Follow the message of LOVE. As long as your loving you will be just fine.

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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: cubensi11]
    #21298624 - 02/19/15 12:18 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

That is really scary, the idea of not being able to trip on mushrooms again due to such a bad experience.

1.4g is nothing, I took 2.5g at a big outdoors festival party and I was in a good place. My friend took 2.5g and was a bit intimidated during the come up.
So that is nice, the bad experiences not soo much. Everyone has a different tolerance towards mushrooms. Try lower doses then? Perhaps just a single gram or even half a gram. Be in a happy place and environment and positive mindset.
Be comfortable, if you would feel more comfortable with certain people around then do that!

I've never had a bad trip before either. It sounds as if you are expecting a bad trip which is leading to one. Also I have heard from many that if you fight the trip then you will have a bad trip. Going with it and accepting it is how you should deal with a bad trip - although I have no experience there unfortunately.

I initially thought it would be a positive thread, I really hope you manage to overcome your fears and work through it and become able to enjoy mushroom trips again!
When things get really bad, just remember that it is all in your head! You're in an altered state of consciousness.


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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: PsyCLown89]
    #21298760 - 02/19/15 12:44 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah they were Cubies, Koh Samui Super Strain to be exact. I too think they must've been really, really potent mushies, because before the bad trips, i've taken up to 4 grams dry GT/Cambodia/Columbian Rust etc and had a great time. But my last trip which was just 1.5g in total, was GT if I remember correctly, was in terms of visuals, one of the top 5 intense trips i've experienced. Have i just gotten really sensitive for psilocybin, or just terrific luck with the potencies?

I have some Purple Mystic and Texas coming up, gonna start reaaal slowly with these babies. Can't even do shroom tea anymore, peaks so fast its scary, thats why i've now taken my doses in 2 parts, eaten. :laugh:

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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: LagerHolm]
    #21298895 - 02/19/15 01:06 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

You probably got more sensitive to them. I sure did after some time.

Meditation is a good way to get over the fear btw. It's especially nice to meditate on mushies. Shrooms led me to it and now I can get higher than ever just through the meditations and a light dosage or a bit of weed. and I don't need anything at all if I'm in practice and staying healthy.

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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: cubensi11]
    #21299260 - 02/19/15 02:14 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds to me as though you have a heap of anxiety built up within you and it's being released when you take mushrooms. It can only be expected as a lot of anxiety is fear of losing control. Mushrooms sure make you lose control. The key is to let control go to the mushrooms. Let them take you for the experience because you sure as hell can't fight them. Understand that you can't die from taking them and this whole experience will be over in a few hours.
Try going for a run or doing a bit of exercise before eating them. Make sure you're fully hydrated before and during your trip. Only take them when you're having a good day and are in a good mindset.
I know the exact feelings you've been having. I recently took about 7 g dried subaeruginosa and they are super strong wood lovers. I spent 3 hours naked on my bathroom floor wishing it would end struggling with each breathe. After it finished I was a new person. It was like being reborn.
I have since been learning to let go and it's brought the amazing feeling back to it.

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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: Devoswitch]
    #21299468 - 02/19/15 02:57 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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Devoswitch said:
Sounds to me as though you have a heap of anxiety built up within you and it's being released when you take mushrooms. It can only be expected as a lot of anxiety is fear of losing control. Mushrooms sure make you lose control. The key is to let control go to the mushrooms. Let them take you for the experience because you sure as hell can't fight them. Understand that you can't die from taking them and this whole experience will be over in a few hours.
Try going for a run or doing a bit of exercise before eating them. Make sure you're fully hydrated before and during your trip. Only take them when you're having a good day and are in a good mindset.
I know the exact feelings you've been having. I recently took about 7 g dried subaeruginosa and they are super strong wood lovers. I spent 3 hours naked on my bathroom floor wishing it would end struggling with each breathe. After it finished I was a new person. It was like being reborn.
I have since been learning to let go and it's brought the amazing feeling back to it.




Well this makes sense to me. Now that i think of it, the idea of going on a trip "prepared to fight" sounds stupid and that wont help make the trip any better, especially if the trip does go bad. Guess i'll just have to learn to let go, like you said. :smile:

Man, it's already 2 years since the last bad trip. Time to shake hands with it

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Re: The effect of shrooms have changed for me? [Re: LagerHolm]
    #21299671 - 02/19/15 03:39 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I've heard it said that shrooming is less like flying a rocket ship, more like being strapped to the front. What a lot of people don't realize is that you CAN control it. I've had many "bad" trips turn around and become some of my favorite trips by learning to put a leash on them from time to time, even with the sky high doses. If I find myself sinking I find something to laugh at, even a gonzo laugh at nothing. That can help re-tune the trip into a positive one. I also use heartful or happy music. Many people use Nitrous oxide (whipits) to get through that ramp up anxiety which is what usually leads to the uncomfortable experiences after the ear pop. Hope this helps.

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