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What to do with a weak batch
    #21298041 - 02/19/15 10:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I cloned a nice looking mushroom a while ago, from a strong batch, due to the fact that it fruited the fastest. Then I colonized a monotub with this clone on agar, and ended up with the weakest batch of mushrooms ever. I mean with doses of 5g, I get a smile for a few minutes, which very well may be a placebo effect. It's sad.

Now I'm wondering what to do with this bag of 100g+ of very weak shrooms. I've taken many advanced chemistry classes in university, so I'd be very comfortable doing an extraction. I looked into it and found the following method: http://www.fanaticus.com/mycoalki.htm

The method uses ethanol, which seems like a good option, since it evaporates quickly, which would minimize the degradation of actives. I feel like making tea and trying to evaporate the water would take too long and cause actives to degrade quite a bit. Any thoughts on that?

Then I thought... hold on, psilocybin isnt that soluble in alcohol, is it? We usually make tea... with water... and sure enough, the following link http://www.swgdrug.org/Monographs/PSILOCIN.pdf states that psilocybin is only "Slightly Soluble" in methanol. Granted, ethanol could be different, but I expect it to be very similar.

So, what do you do with mushrooms as weak as these?


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298054 - 02/19/15 10:23 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I would make tea, or just throw them on a pizza.......eat/drink till you are full and u will feel something......

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: PussyFart]
    #21298059 - 02/19/15 10:24 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Make a huge batch of tea and freeze it.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21298088 - 02/19/15 10:29 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Tea huh... Maybe if I used a minimal amount of water it might get strong enough?


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21298093 - 02/19/15 10:30 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Make a huge batch of tea and freeze it.



:whathesaid:

Prefferably in an aluminum or steel container.

Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. :rainbowdrink:


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298094 - 02/19/15 10:30 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

It'll kick your ass if you drink enough don't worry.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21298110 - 02/19/15 10:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Tea sounds like a good idea. Give them away to people in large amounts.

Or you could give an extraction a try.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21298112 - 02/19/15 10:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I'd make tea or grind them up and mix them in chocolate, which is how i buy mine locally.

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: anarchyfan]
    #21298129 - 02/19/15 10:37 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Or chocolate but that'd be a lot of chocolate if the shrooms are weak.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #21298203 - 02/19/15 10:52 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The shrooms are hard-to-imagine-shrooms-being-this-weak weak, so chocolate would give you digestive problems before a buzz. Even tea seems risky to me, but I guess it could work as long as I just don't stop drinking it over an hour or so.

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Prefferably in an aluminum or steel container.





Why metal? It's not inert like glass is. I've done it in mason jars before, is there a problem with that method?


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #21298213 - 02/19/15 10:54 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. :rainbowdrink:




Only if the water approaches saturation, which it definitely won't.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
    #21298232 - 02/19/15 10:56 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. :rainbowdrink:




Only if the water approaches saturation, which it definitely won't.




Yeah that's what I was thinking... unless the water is getting saturated from pulling other compounds from the mushrooms, i.e. not psilocybin, which seems possible...


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298254 - 02/19/15 11:00 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Easy enough to test.  Three extracts, each with a small volume of water.  Quaff the third, then the second if that doesn't work, and then the first.

Quaff.  :awesomenod:


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
    #21298273 - 02/19/15 11:03 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

i say grow mushrooms off them :yesnod:

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
    #21298277 - 02/19/15 11:04 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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i say grow mushrooms off them :yesnod:




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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
    #21298311 - 02/19/15 11:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Quaff, how elegant of you.

I like that idea, I just might try it, for science! :havesomescience: 

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i say grow mushrooms off them :yesnod:




Haha, I doubt that the mushrooms growing on the mushrooms would absorb its psilocybin, but one can always hope.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298314 - 02/19/15 11:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

i didnt say that it would absorb anything.Just answering the question in the title.

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298319 - 02/19/15 11:13 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Clearly that's because you haven't reached 100 posts, because once you do you get a personal letter from all the TCs telling you the secret of Double Mushrooms.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
    #21298328 - 02/19/15 11:15 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:yesnod::nonono::uhoh::notsureif:

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
    #21298332 - 02/19/15 11:17 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, shit, bee-dub.  You signed up before they started sending that out.  You probably also missed the letter that says, "No, the SAB thing is just a joke; we all just spray lysol in our bathroom in do our transfers in open air."


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
    #21298366 - 02/19/15 11:25 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

That's it, make fun of my post count  :whatever:


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21299032 - 02/19/15 01:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Lemon tek a large amount into some tea. Store the tea.

Drink a lot.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21299163 - 02/19/15 01:56 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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Prefferably in an aluminum or steel container.





Why metal? It's not inert like glass is. I've done it in mason jars before, is there a problem with that method?




Metal will keep out light, even brown glass only blocks 90%.

Light is the enemy of aqueous psilocybin containing solutions.

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Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. :rainbowdrink:




Only if the water approaches saturation, which it definitely won't.




Yeah that's what I was thinking... unless the water is getting saturated from pulling other compounds from the mushrooms, i.e. not psilocybin, which seems possible...




Well the point is it won't have sufficient contact with the surface area of your powderized mush, therefore leading to inefficient extraction of the alkaloids contained therein.

With any extraction multiple dilute extractions lead to a higher yield. It's why you do multiple pulls with mescaline and dmt extractions.


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