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Junior Fungus
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What to do with a weak batch
#21298041 - 02/19/15 10:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I cloned a nice looking mushroom a while ago, from a strong batch, due to the fact that it fruited the fastest. Then I colonized a monotub with this clone on agar, and ended up with the weakest batch of mushrooms ever. I mean with doses of 5g, I get a smile for a few minutes, which very well may be a placebo effect. It's sad.
Now I'm wondering what to do with this bag of 100g+ of very weak shrooms. I've taken many advanced chemistry classes in university, so I'd be very comfortable doing an extraction. I looked into it and found the following method: http://www.fanaticus.com/mycoalki.htm
The method uses ethanol, which seems like a good option, since it evaporates quickly, which would minimize the degradation of actives. I feel like making tea and trying to evaporate the water would take too long and cause actives to degrade quite a bit. Any thoughts on that?
Then I thought... hold on, psilocybin isnt that soluble in alcohol, is it? We usually make tea... with water... and sure enough, the following link http://www.swgdrug.org/Monographs/PSILOCIN.pdf states that psilocybin is only "Slightly Soluble" in methanol. Granted, ethanol could be different, but I expect it to be very similar.
So, what do you do with mushrooms as weak as these?
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I would make tea, or just throw them on a pizza.......eat/drink till you are full and u will feel something......
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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: PussyFart]
#21298059 - 02/19/15 10:24 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Make a huge batch of tea and freeze it.
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Junior Fungus
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Tea huh... Maybe if I used a minimal amount of water it might get strong enough?
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wowimflabbergasted said: Make a huge batch of tea and freeze it.

Prefferably in an aluminum or steel container.
Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea.
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It'll kick your ass if you drink enough don't worry.
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Tea sounds like a good idea. Give them away to people in large amounts.
Or you could give an extraction a try.
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I'd make tea or grind them up and mix them in chocolate, which is how i buy mine locally.
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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: anarchyfan]
#21298129 - 02/19/15 10:37 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Or chocolate but that'd be a lot of chocolate if the shrooms are weak.
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Junior Fungus
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The shrooms are hard-to-imagine-shrooms-being-this-weak weak, so chocolate would give you digestive problems before a buzz. Even tea seems risky to me, but I guess it could work as long as I just don't stop drinking it over an hour or so.
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Yukon Cornelius said:
Prefferably in an aluminum or steel container.
Why metal? It's not inert like glass is. I've done it in mason jars before, is there a problem with that method?
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Psilicon
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Quote:
Yukon Cornelius said:
Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. 
Only if the water approaches saturation, which it definitely won't.
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Junior Fungus
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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
#21298232 - 02/19/15 10:56 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
van der griegen said:
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Yukon Cornelius said:
Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. 
Only if the water approaches saturation, which it definitely won't.
Yeah that's what I was thinking... unless the water is getting saturated from pulling other compounds from the mushrooms, i.e. not psilocybin, which seems possible...
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Psilicon
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Easy enough to test. Three extracts, each with a small volume of water. Quaff the third, then the second if that doesn't work, and then the first.
Quaff.
Edited by Psilicon (02/19/15 11:00 AM)
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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
#21298273 - 02/19/15 11:03 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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i say grow mushrooms off them
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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
#21298277 - 02/19/15 11:04 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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bw86 said: i say grow mushrooms off them 
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Junior Fungus
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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
#21298311 - 02/19/15 11:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quaff, how elegant of you.
I like that idea, I just might try it, for science!
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bw86 said: i say grow mushrooms off them 
Haha, I doubt that the mushrooms growing on the mushrooms would absorb its psilocybin, but one can always hope.
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bw86
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i didnt say that it would absorb anything.Just answering the question in the title.
Edited by bw86 (02/19/15 11:12 AM)
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Psilicon
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Clearly that's because you haven't reached 100 posts, because once you do you get a personal letter from all the TCs telling you the secret of Double Mushrooms.
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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
#21298328 - 02/19/15 11:15 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
#21298332 - 02/19/15 11:17 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh, shit, bee-dub. You signed up before they started sending that out. You probably also missed the letter that says, "No, the SAB thing is just a joke; we all just spray lysol in our bathroom in do our transfers in open air."
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