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OfflineJunior Fungus
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What to do with a weak batch
    #21298041 - 02/19/15 10:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I cloned a nice looking mushroom a while ago, from a strong batch, due to the fact that it fruited the fastest. Then I colonized a monotub with this clone on agar, and ended up with the weakest batch of mushrooms ever. I mean with doses of 5g, I get a smile for a few minutes, which very well may be a placebo effect. It's sad.

Now I'm wondering what to do with this bag of 100g+ of very weak shrooms. I've taken many advanced chemistry classes in university, so I'd be very comfortable doing an extraction. I looked into it and found the following method: http://www.fanaticus.com/mycoalki.htm

The method uses ethanol, which seems like a good option, since it evaporates quickly, which would minimize the degradation of actives. I feel like making tea and trying to evaporate the water would take too long and cause actives to degrade quite a bit. Any thoughts on that?

Then I thought... hold on, psilocybin isnt that soluble in alcohol, is it? We usually make tea... with water... and sure enough, the following link http://www.swgdrug.org/Monographs/PSILOCIN.pdf states that psilocybin is only "Slightly Soluble" in methanol. Granted, ethanol could be different, but I expect it to be very similar.

So, what do you do with mushrooms as weak as these?


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298054 - 02/19/15 10:23 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I would make tea, or just throw them on a pizza.......eat/drink till you are full and u will feel something......

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: PussyFart]
    #21298059 - 02/19/15 10:24 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Make a huge batch of tea and freeze it.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21298088 - 02/19/15 10:29 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Tea huh... Maybe if I used a minimal amount of water it might get strong enough?


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21298093 - 02/19/15 10:30 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Make a huge batch of tea and freeze it.



:whathesaid:

Prefferably in an aluminum or steel container.

Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. :rainbowdrink:


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298094 - 02/19/15 10:30 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

It'll kick your ass if you drink enough don't worry.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21298110 - 02/19/15 10:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Tea sounds like a good idea. Give them away to people in large amounts.

Or you could give an extraction a try.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21298112 - 02/19/15 10:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I'd make tea or grind them up and mix them in chocolate, which is how i buy mine locally.

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: anarchyfan]
    #21298129 - 02/19/15 10:37 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Or chocolate but that'd be a lot of chocolate if the shrooms are weak.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #21298203 - 02/19/15 10:52 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The shrooms are hard-to-imagine-shrooms-being-this-weak weak, so chocolate would give you digestive problems before a buzz. Even tea seems risky to me, but I guess it could work as long as I just don't stop drinking it over an hour or so.

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Prefferably in an aluminum or steel container.





Why metal? It's not inert like glass is. I've done it in mason jars before, is there a problem with that method?


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Yukon Cornelius]
    #21298213 - 02/19/15 10:54 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. :rainbowdrink:




Only if the water approaches saturation, which it definitely won't.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
    #21298232 - 02/19/15 10:56 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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van der griegen said:
Quote:

Yukon Cornelius said:

Minimal water will just lead to an inefficient extraction, just drink more tea. :rainbowdrink:




Only if the water approaches saturation, which it definitely won't.




Yeah that's what I was thinking... unless the water is getting saturated from pulling other compounds from the mushrooms, i.e. not psilocybin, which seems possible...


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298254 - 02/19/15 11:00 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Easy enough to test.  Three extracts, each with a small volume of water.  Quaff the third, then the second if that doesn't work, and then the first.

Quaff.  :awesomenod:


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
    #21298273 - 02/19/15 11:03 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

i say grow mushrooms off them :yesnod:

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
    #21298277 - 02/19/15 11:04 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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i say grow mushrooms off them :yesnod:




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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
    #21298311 - 02/19/15 11:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Quaff, how elegant of you.

I like that idea, I just might try it, for science! :havesomescience: 

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i say grow mushrooms off them :yesnod:




Haha, I doubt that the mushrooms growing on the mushrooms would absorb its psilocybin, but one can always hope.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298314 - 02/19/15 11:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

i didnt say that it would absorb anything.Just answering the question in the title.

Edited by bw86 (02/19/15 11:12 AM)

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Junior Fungus]
    #21298319 - 02/19/15 11:13 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Clearly that's because you haven't reached 100 posts, because once you do you get a personal letter from all the TCs telling you the secret of Double Mushrooms.


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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: Psilicon]
    #21298328 - 02/19/15 11:15 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:yesnod::nonono::uhoh::notsureif:

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Re: What to do with a weak batch [Re: bw86]
    #21298332 - 02/19/15 11:17 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, shit, bee-dub.  You signed up before they started sending that out.  You probably also missed the letter that says, "No, the SAB thing is just a joke; we all just spray lysol in our bathroom in do our transfers in open air."


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