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OfflineMixomatosis
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The computer's place in spirituality
    #2129801 - 11/23/03 01:15 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

All right, time to force everybody to rationalize their time spent in front of their computers!

You're all talking about "paths" all the time and how you're on a "journey" and some claim this website facilitates their "growth" or something. Well, that's nice, but don't you think we'd all be better off doing something else? Seriously, you think those yogis some people were talking about spend much time on their computers?

I'm afraid these boxes separate us from the world and although the odd nifty idea may be posted you can't convince me that your region is so devoid of intelligent, cool people that you have to find half-real ones on the internet. If this is the case then I reccomend you go travelling and find somewhere else to be.

Anyway, I'm sure you've all had these thoughts before. So whaddya say? Would you like to spend less time here, more time connecting with the rest of the world.. the "real" world? Maybe some of you disagree and think this is actually a healthy thing to do? That would surprise me but whatever.

As for myself, I'm fucking around. The TV stopped talking back a long time ago. I'd call my relationship with this website addiction more than anything else although it is a place to practice writing ideas down and it can be fun to have people around to dismantle, which is a skill, I suppose. Soon I'll leave without my computer so I won't have the chance to be on the internet much. This will be healthy.


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2129806 - 11/23/03 01:19 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

The internet is the future of human communication, so no, I don't think its a waste of time to be involved in it.

The internet is all about sharing information, just like relationships in normal life are. The quality of your time spent on the internet depends on what you do with that time. I find that the internet is an amazing catalyst for research and an invaluable tool in my search for knowledge.


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: chunder]
    #2129812 - 11/23/03 01:27 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

yes.. that's what we call denial. Go feed your starving cats.


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2129814 - 11/23/03 01:27 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

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Mixomatosis said:

I'm afraid these boxes separate us from the world and although the odd nifty idea may be posted you can't convince me that your region is so devoid of intelligent, cool people that you have to find half-real ones on the internet. If this is the case then I reccomend you go travelling and find somewhere else to be.
 




    That'd be me.  I live in Northern Oklahoma.  Yeah. Not exactly a thriving cosmopolitan/metropolis.  I happen to live in a desert of ignorance with an occasional oasis, here and there.  I find some of the Personalities here, intriging.  I haven't spent my entire life here, however. I kinda grew up in Texas, at least 3-4 months a year spent in Houston.  Just trying to get out of school, for the upteenth time.  So, I am one person that is looking for a conversation that doesn't involve the weather, or wheat.  :lol:later.  :lol: 


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: medicinebag]
    #2129817 - 11/23/03 01:30 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

ok.. now chunder to go back to your points, my hilarious comments you've all come to know and love me for aside, this is more about the computer/internet's roles in our spiritual growth which I assume we're all interested in as that's what this forum is about. How does the computer fit on that level?


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2129824 - 11/23/03 01:42 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Right now I'm pretty much at the beginning of my spirituality. I need to learn a lot before actually going out into the real world to explore spirituality there. I've stopped watching tv and porn, so hopefully that will aid in my quest.


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2129835 - 11/23/03 01:54 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

First, the assumption that because someone posts here they spend all their time here and not elsewhere is flawed in many ways. My guess is it would come from a person who does spend all their time here and as such may be unable to imagine not doing so.

I think that the internet (and computers in general) is currently causing and will continue to cause a surge in the average level of intelligence on this planet. The internet provides instant communication at very little cost to virtually anyone.

On top of that, the sheer volume of information on the internet is truely mind-boggling. It probably rivals that of the entire collection of books in largest single library in the world (whichever that may be) - if it hasen't passed this mark already.

For anyone who things that the internet is 90% garbage: you don't know how to Search properly. Learn to do so. It only appears to be 90% bullshit because that 90% you're seeing is being pushed at you mostly by profiteering jerks. The actual information content of this advertising is very low. Learn to ignore the ads. Learn to look beyond the ads. The information is out there.

There is no possible way I could have amassed the information I have in my years on this planet without the use of a computer and the existence of the internet.  :smirk:


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2129846 - 11/23/03 02:03 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Check out this thread.

The abundance and easy access to thousands of years worth of information is a new development in the human evolution. 500 years ago information only traveled as fast as humans...now its almost instantaneous, and global.

There are still millions of people without access to this well of information, of course, but they will still be affected by its ramifications. The increase of connectivity among academic circles, scientists, philosophers, artists, regular citizens, humans in general, will have profound effects on the way our world works. The effects will trickle down to all levels of society, and they will also trickle UP!

Its already happening, advances in technology, especially computers and related tech, are occurring faster and faster.

The Internet is a culturally shared intelligence, with which we can communicate at will. These communications may not be accurate all the time, nor will they neccessarily help us in our search for truth, but the fact that the communication, the INFORMATION, is available for us to tap into is a huge deal.

Knowledge is everything, for it brings about the opportunity to augment one's clarity of perspective. And in this world of mirrors and reflections, perspective is the one idea that its absolutely vital to possess a firm understanding of.

/end ramble

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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: trendal]
    #2129849 - 11/23/03 02:04 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

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trendal said:


There is no possible way I could have amassed the information I have in my years on this planet without the use of a computer and the existence of the internet.  :smirk: 




Exactly, how many of us learned to grow from the internet?   


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: medicinebag]
    #2129856 - 11/23/03 02:07 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Give it another 10 years or so...

The "internet generation" is still only starting to become visible to the world...give it another 10 years or so :wink:


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: trendal]
    #2129943 - 11/23/03 03:13 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

yes.. the internet is God.. but anyway, back to the subject


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2130042 - 11/23/03 05:21 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

i spend time here an there. I visit few places on the net, so my internet time is limited.

when I'm doing nothing else, I do this...talk...communicate...cross ideas with people....connect with other's thoughts so I can learn.


I've learned much more from people on this bulletin board than I have learned from people (besides my professors) at college. here the seperation and not wanting to talk to each other is very limited compared to the "real" world.

when you see someone in the flesh, it's easier to judge them by their clothes/look, the way they talk etc..instead by their ideas, which is what's conveyed moreso on the net.


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: kaiowas]
    #2130141 - 11/23/03 09:25 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

In simplistic terms, I knew absolutely nothing about mushrooms when I first heard about them. And, of course, there would be probably no one that I would ever be able to find in my area that would have enough information about them for me to get a deep understanding of them. Not to mention it is not so easy to go around asking people about them.

Well, my friend found Erowid and then found the Shroomery. We spent many a weekend nights waiting for our best friend to get off of work while we read trip report after trip report. We read everything we could.

It didn't take long to realize that we could actually grow them ourselves. Considering that we would be lucky if anyone even said anything about being able to get them, and of course, someone saying that they could get them or even that they WILL have them brought about a 5% chance of them actually getting them, which brings a 1% chance of US getting them.

After growing my own and finally getting some commercial ones, I had finally had first hand experience with them. After so long of mushrooms and marijuna and thinking about thoughts, a great number of them from this information source, I had built some understandings and had a new way to look at the world.

And what better way to share these ideas with others, while they share theirs, so that all involved can learn more and get a deeper understanding of what Life is.

This is a communication network that connects basically everyone and not only that, but no one actually deals with the people on here if they don't want to. There is no face to face, personal interaction here. However, the ideas themselves spread.

The computer's place in spirituality? Fairly obvious. The spread of ideas related to spirituality. It isn't that hard to see.
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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: Mixomatosis]
    #2130148 - 11/23/03 09:36 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

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Mixomatosis said:
yes.. the internet is God..





Could be.


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: sirreal]
    #2130149 - 11/23/03 09:36 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

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sirreal said:
Could be.




However, it is more likely that I am God.
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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2130153 - 11/23/03 09:42 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

The idea of an all knowing God is represented more accurately by something like the internet, I would think.

A vast network of information that gives access to a greater conciousness is representative of God in my mind.



You can still be the son of god though. :tongue: 


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: sirreal]
    #2130156 - 11/23/03 09:45 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

Oh, you want an ALL-KNOWING God? Well, I see where I'M not wanted. *kicks can, starts walking away, stops and looks back momentarily to look for some sign of being wanted, then walks into the mist*
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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2130157 - 11/23/03 09:47 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

kepp on walking!!!!


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: kaiowas]
    #2130161 - 11/23/03 09:52 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

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kaiowas said:
kepp on walking!!!! 




I'll drag you with me, don't you know. I have someone I want you to meet! :devil:
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Re: The computer's place in spirituality [Re: fireworks_god]
    #2130166 - 11/23/03 09:54 AM (13 years, 19 days ago)

*sigh* off into the holographic fog I go

*waves goodbye*



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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie


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