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blindingleaf
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i mean regardless of if its true or not, spores taste like shit, and they get everywhere, so its better to pick upon veil breaking in most circumstances unless u want prints.
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That's when I pick for prints, too. They'll still sporulate.
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This is nasty too.
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blindingleaf
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ewww. i have read with oysters in warmer climates, you can get a lot of gnat problems with the spores. bugs bring mold, or spread mold thats already present. i wonder if the same could be said for cubes??
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Nativenglish said: The second question is regarding what message is sent to the other fruiting cakes, after spore drop. I have read that a spore drop signals the other cakes that it's time to stop or slow production. This was a very old thread, and I'm wondering if this still holds true?
this info is true that is why we want to pick right after the veil tares.
This is very false. I'm pretty sure in one of my threads I documented the debunking of this myth. As long as their is moisture and nutrition the mycelium will continue to produce fruit. I left one tub without picking for at least 7 flushes.
it may be false concoir wasnt a tc back then. but i havent seen any tc's debunk this myth so i still believe in it... better safe then sorry. you know what i mean.

Yeah, but Roger Rabbit was, and that's who concoir was quoting. Re-read the post.
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I don't care which TC said it. I don't like trading TC quotes like baseball cards, and they have no currency with me. If a TC wants to weigh in and say they feel one way or the other NOW, great. But things change. TCs change their mind. And we should never get caught in the trap of treating TC advice like the gospel.
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Shouldn't even treat the gospel like it's gospel; change happens, we gotta' roll .
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van der griegen said: I don't care which TC said it. I don't like trading TC quotes like baseball cards, and they have no currency with me. If a TC wants to weigh in and say they feel one way or the other NOW, great. But things change. TCs change their mind. And we should never get caught in the trap of treating TC advice like the gospel.
I trust experience that's why I trust tcs.
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Nativenglish
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van der griegen said: I don't care which TC said it. I don't like trading TC quotes like baseball cards, and they have no currency with me. If a TC wants to weigh in and say they feel one way or the other NOW, great. But things change. TCs change their mind. And we should never get caught in the trap of treating TC advice like the gospel.
Roger Rabbit, a Trusted Cultivator? I think that RR is the TC to TC's. More like a TMG.......Trusted Mushroom God. 
*but I get your point
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Okay. So what makes you think someone like SBJ or Pasty has more experience than someone like bw or hamloaf? The tag?
RR is no God and I've seen him making shit up several times. And he stayed the TC to TCs for so long because he was the one who gave and took away tags.
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TC are proven to be knowledgeable people. Tc's were also put into effect because mods are lazy and wanted/needed people to answer question when they didn't want to. back in the day we would wait for a mod to look at our post and chime in.Now they dont need to.
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Nativenglish
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RR is no God and I've seen him making shit up several times..
Dude, can I use this in my sig?
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bw86
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c'mon i love talking shit about people but c'mon they guy just left and has had a greater influence on our whole community then 99% of the people on the forums. I might not have ever watch "lets grow mushrooms" but i still might not be here if it wasn't for him.
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tbagtag
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Re: Spore Drop [Re: bw86]
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bw86 said: im sure your one project proved it...  do you know how experiments take place? 1 of anything cant prove shit...
Absolutely I do, when I'm not on a tablet I'll dig out the thread you can review my methods. After that you can make an educated snarky comment.
Others had spores drop and still have additional fruits. It did increase the time in between flushes, I want to say the last flush was 6 weeks out.
The biggest reason you really want to pick when the veil tears(besides spores taste like shit) is that only water weight is gained and no more additional actives are produced.
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Re: Spore Drop [Re: tbagtag]
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tbagtag said: Absolutely I do, when I'm not on a tablet I'll dig out the thread you can review my methods. After that you can make an educated snarky comment.

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Pastywhyte
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van der griegen said: I don't care which TC said it. I don't like trading TC quotes like baseball cards, and they have no currency with me. If a TC wants to weigh in and say they feel one way or the other NOW, great. But things change. TCs change their mind. And we should never get caught in the trap of treating TC advice like the gospel.
But I'm an atheist. . .
A fair point on changing of the mind tho. I change my viewpoints when I am given a reason to do so and I am sure any cultivator worth their salt does the same. Its all part of the learning process and no good TC or veteran cultivator is ever done learning. To be able to change your viewpoint on something makes for a better cultivator in the long run.
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blindingleaf
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To be able to change your viewpoint on something makes for a better cultivator in the long run.
QFT. to be as humble as the mushrooms we grow takes patience in and of itself. those who grow a lot know that there are so many ways to do something successfully that to dogmatically preach just one is heresy.
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Pastywhyte
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I like to think of much of it as preferences. I have my preference and I will vigorously advocate it. But that doesn't ever mean that there are not other methods. I try everything at least once otherwise I am not entitled to an opinion on it. Personally I dislike the idea of using spores to inoculate any substrate. That does not stop pf tek from still being one of the most reliable methods there is.
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blindingleaf
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yea i was thinking "preferences" is really the best way to put it.
i think people settle into the hobby for different reasons maybe. i first started growing because i loved to trip, so i went with the easiest way possible, namely CVG. but then, i got more addicted to the growing aspect, and started varying lot of stuff i do, which is where i am still at. as long as people come out on top with healthy mushrooms, and are having fun, then thats all that should matter.
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