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weird growth question an air exchange
    #21297070 - 02/19/15 06:18 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Hello guys I've been growing for about 4 months now. My wife wants to throw me out cause I turned our house into a greenhouse and she can never youse the stove anymore cause there's pressure cookers always running. Lol
But anyways I have a few questions. I've been doing a little experimenting and been noticing some weird stuff and would like to know if anyone has any input on it. First off my first grow was with Mexican cubensis. bulk grow, coir, wbs, verm, and gypsum. Everything went great till I put it in the green house and it started making metabolites. I thought it was mold, stupid me. I read somthing about mixing water and .3 percent peroxide to kill mold and sprayed both of my bulk grows errrr!!. Read a Lil more 2 hrs pass and I was drilling holes and flushing out the peroxide I had sprayed out the bottom off the tub. Well that went all good. She started to pin after all the abuse and did produce mushies but they were all very small, and I had alot of mushrooms growing upu side down, side ways, and every Witch way with big balls all over the place. Why? Now I'm on another grow same ingredients same way just a little more gypsum and no peroxide :smile:. Fruits are much bigger but still getting some strange growing mushrooms alot less but weird caps are stuck to stripe. stripes or stems are very fat and exploding. Is this normal? I was also wondering if a fruiting chamber had built up co2 what would happen? I also have another tub that's a golden teacher cubensis that is in my sterile room about 3/4 colonized that has a plant growing in it wtf is that all about? Is that the wbs germinating an growing after being pressure cooked for 90 min? Another thing is I have a bus bin that is pinning but is not 100 percent colonized should I fruit it. I would appreciate any answers.  Sorry for the crazyness :smile:....♧

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21297074 - 02/19/15 06:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Another quick question I forgot was I have a monotub that is colonizing. The whole top layer of the mycelium is a layer of spikes. VERY s range looking compare to all the other tubs I colonized. IS THAT cause I am doing to many grain to grain transfers?

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21297098 - 02/19/15 06:30 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

sounds like u have verticillium
blobs, and splitting stems is classic sign.  caps turning all wacky is icing on the cake.
get it out now.  do not spray it.  i am still dealing with vert issues from when i first started, not knowing what it was, and spraying it like it was healthy.  the spores are VERY sticky, and persistent.


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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21297101 - 02/19/15 06:31 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

My gf also is not a realy happy with my hobby, I feel you man :cool:
I throw the content of my tubs right away when they show any sign of a contamination.
Could you show a picture of the mushrooms and your tub?


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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21297105 - 02/19/15 06:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

also post pictures.
"layer of spikes" i dunno what that means.
its possible that if ur tub that is showing what sounds to be vert, ur other tubs could have it, especially if its from the same g2g.
vert does not show until fruits form.  it attacks primordia, and IMO, is worse than dealing with trich.


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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21297107 - 02/19/15 06:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Damb I have it in the green house with 6 other tubs for past 3 days

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21297110 - 02/19/15 06:34 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

What cause that? Should I clean whole green house an throw tubs out?

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21297122 - 02/19/15 06:37 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah wow this really sux I have alot wbs in bags ready. I'll get some pics of all the shit I got going on.

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21297131 - 02/19/15 06:41 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

just don't spray ANYTHING.
not even the tubs/trays that are not showing it yet.  its not like trich, where it can show up before fruiting.  fruits must be present for you to see it is there.
lower ur temps, down to like 60f if u can, and just blast with FAE.
is it possible u will have to toss stuff, but most important thing is do not spray anything.  it will spread shit around.
u can see it on agar if ur attentive, but i have yet to notice it in grain spawn.


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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21297175 - 02/19/15 06:57 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Myphone is dying and it will not allow me to take a picture of my stuff and I have to take off I will leave it on the charger and I will take pics in a hour. The thing is I built a greenhouse that is 10 by 5 feet in one of my bedrooms so I have my tubs in there it is only showing in one tub the green house has a built in fan with filter so I can create as much fae I want

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21297187 - 02/19/15 07:00 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

cool.  well good luck to you!
just remember, cubes can tolerate lower temps, and lower humidity MUCH better than verticillium.  even if its there, u can sometimes pull a good flush with minimal damage to ur fruits if the conditions are right.
after the tubs u have going in there, i would consider cleaning out the GH.  bleach, h202, iso, lysol, whatever u got.  don't clean it now in case there is vert on those as well, cause u will just need to clean it again.


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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: blindingleaf]
    #21297740 - 02/19/15 09:19 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Just uploaded pics but did it wrong there on my page in a folder tell me what you think

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21297748 - 02/19/15 09:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Just post em dude.



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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21299467 - 02/19/15 02:57 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Nice thanks

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21299470 - 02/19/15 02:58 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The fuck is going on in that last pic?

is that flower?


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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: taGyo]
    #21300148 - 02/19/15 05:36 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

That looks all kinds of creepy! I wouldn't even know how to harvest that.

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: taGyo]
    #21300507 - 02/19/15 06:51 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

taGyo said:
The fuck is going on in that last pic?

is that flower?




This. That shit just ain't right.

Honestly OP, I feel for ya man. I had a long run of contamination after contamination after ... you get the point.

Happens to the best of us at one point or another. Any time I fail at this hobby, I do my best to learn from it.

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: JudPie]
    #21304886 - 02/20/15 04:11 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Dude crazy right? I just found another one growing in a bus bin. Hey what do I do just keep picking these bad boys as there ready or harvest all at once there is a ton more starting to pin.

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Re: weird growth question an air exchange [Re: golden teacher1983]
    #21362477 - 03/04/15 05:47 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)


Nice pics. I think that Cladobotryum. The symptoms are very similar to Verticillium but it grows over the mushrooms. When it gets thick you can peel the mat off and the mushroom will have started rotting beneath. You can see the discoloration it causes from the metabolites it produces when it's mature although it can also turn yellowish color, and the spore structures below.


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