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incubation temp is a 85
#21296917 - 02/19/15 04:40 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have my mycelium at about 90% for 10 1/2 pint jars, using a heat pad covered by a towel I've regulated heat with a timer. 1 hour on 1 hour off, all the buttons got pushed in on my timer somehow and it kicked on to run 24/7! the heat in my incubator got up to 85° possibly 86° jars started to sweat inside mycelim is still growing though but if inside temp is 86° with the jars growing mycelium they would be warmer right? wondering the thought everyone had on that temp? how bad it is etc no contams so far I have inoculated 10 jars and all ten are at 90% at day 14 after inoculation
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: pyro101981]
#21296926 - 02/19/15 04:48 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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do u have pics? even a heating pad on a timer isn't the best man. BRF is a bit more forgiving, but if my grains jars were crammed together @ 90% and 85f, I'm almost certain i would have bacteria.
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Another lesson learned on why we don't use heating pads.
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I just don't have a exact tutorial and how to get a fish heater in there with water it's confusing cuz I've never done it heating pad has worked fine so far till then lol
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: pyro101981]
#21299035 - 02/19/15 01:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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If your house or wherever doesn't stay around 70 and you have to, just make a TiT.
It's simple, buy a fish tank heater. 30 $ or so. Then two tubs. In the first one put a few inches on water, not enough to touch the other tub. Most fish tank heaters have suction cups on them so you can just attach it to the middle bottom of the tub. Take a 4 jars put them in the corners of the water tub then set the other tub on top of it.
Most tank heaters have a little knob you can use to set the temp.
I believe there are Tek's on here for one, but I mean its pretty simple.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: pyro101981]
#21299122 - 02/19/15 01:49 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Don't incubate at all.
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Just leave your jars at room temperature. Cubensis wants to colonize and fruit, don't ever forget that, they will do it whether you want them to or not provided they've been given a good and sterile environment to thrive in.
Whether it's 65 degrees or 79 degrees they'll still colonize, albeit slower or faster. Just wait it out. I used an incubator my first grow, now I just leave them on a shelf.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: taGyo]
#21299849 - 02/19/15 04:26 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Awsome impute guys thank you!! anyone have a picture by chance I got the idea just nice to see it
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: pyro101981]
#21301953 - 02/20/15 01:05 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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A picture of what?
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A picture of the set up for the fish tank heater to get a view rather than just words
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: pyro101981]
#21302020 - 02/20/15 01:57 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sure, but fish tank heaters are for fish tanks, not mushrooms.
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Don't incubate....period.are you growing on your porch or something? If you're growing in a house you shouldn't incubate.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: taGyo]
#21311889 - 02/22/15 07:15 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you put the heating pad on top of the box/container the jars are in it will give a more gentle heating effect. I find it helps with condensation too.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: tourrat]
#21311959 - 02/22/15 08:10 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: Don't incubate at all. 
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taGyo said:

Just leave your jars at room temperature. Cubensis wants to colonize and fruit, don't ever forget that, they will do it whether you want them to or not provided they've been given a good and sterile environment to thrive in.
Whether it's 65 degrees or 79 degrees they'll still colonize, albeit slower or faster. Just wait it out. I used an incubator my first grow, now I just leave them on a shelf.
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tourrat said: Don't incubate....period.are you growing on your porch or something? If you're growing in a house you shouldn't incubate.
What are you all talking about?
Anytime you control an environment to create the correct growing perimeters for a life form, you are INCUBATING. OP has his terminology correct.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: hamloaf] 1
#21315859 - 02/23/15 01:41 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You know what we mean hamloaf, why do you have to be like that? Noobs don't see incubating as putting a little space heater in the room to keep it at 75 degrees, they see it has putting heating pads and fish tank heaters in shit. You don't have to treat us like we're dumb for telling the OP not to do what he is doing. Did you give him any advice?
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wowimflabbergasted said: You know what we mean hamloaf, why do you have to be like that? Noobs don't see incubating as putting a little space heater in the room to keep it at 75 degrees, they see it has putting heating pads and fish tank heaters in shit. You don't have to treat us like we're dumb for telling the OP not to do what he is doing. Did you give him any advice? 
Before i started growing i read RRs notes. Isn't it best to leave jars at room temperature? And if you use a incubator you risk thermal death?
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wowimflabbergasted said: You know what we mean hamloaf, why do you have to be like that? Noobs don't see incubating as putting a little space heater in the room to keep it at 75 degrees, they see it has putting heating pads and fish tank heaters in shit. You don't have to treat us like we're dumb for telling the OP not to do what he is doing. Did you give him any advice? 
Well, I am to change all that, wowimflabbergasted, and won't be discouraged by you, or anybody who tries to convince me otherwise. Good day to you.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: TrIpPyDuDe]
#21316233 - 02/23/15 07:04 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: You know what we mean hamloaf, why do you have to be like that? Noobs don't see incubating as putting a little space heater in the room to keep it at 75 degrees, they see it has putting heating pads and fish tank heaters in shit. You don't have to treat us like we're dumb for telling the OP not to do what he is doing. Did you give him any advice? 
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wowimflabbergasted said: You know what we mean hamloaf, why do you have to be like that? Noobs don't see incubating as putting a little space heater in the room to keep it at 75 degrees, they see it has putting heating pads and fish tank heaters in shit. You don't have to treat us like we're dumb for telling the OP not to do what he is doing. Did you give him any advice? 
Before i started growing i read RRs notes. Isn't it best to leave jars at room temperature? And if you use a incubator you risk thermal death?
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Not all of us have temperature controlled, humidified rooms and if you'd read through the thread Ham you'd see that what he's doing is clearly NOT heating a room up lol.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: taGyo]
#21316242 - 02/23/15 07:09 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You are only encouraging me to come at you all harder. Good day to you too, tagyo.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: hamloaf]
#21316250 - 02/23/15 07:10 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chill bruh, I just started, I don't want all of that
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: hamloaf]
#21316253 - 02/23/15 07:11 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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THE_LOAF said:
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wowimflabbergasted said: You know what we mean hamloaf, why do you have to be like that? Noobs don't see incubating as putting a little space heater in the room to keep it at 75 degrees, they see it has putting heating pads and fish tank heaters in shit. You don't have to treat us like we're dumb for telling the OP not to do what he is doing. Did you give him any advice? 
Well, I am to change all that, wowimflabbergasted, and won't be discouraged by you, or anybody who tries to convince me otherwise. Good day to you.
I'm not incubating on a shelf, its called room temp because its the temp my room is already at  If you wanna change nomenclature around here start with casings and strains please IMO.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: hamloaf]
#21316263 - 02/23/15 07:15 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Imo higher temp higher chance for contaminants
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: spacechildo]
#21316264 - 02/23/15 07:15 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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When will you kids learn, room temperature is INCUBATION.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: hamloaf]
#21316266 - 02/23/15 07:17 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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So teach the kids Ham.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: hamloaf]
#21316268 - 02/23/15 07:19 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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THE_LOAF said: When will you kids learn, room temperature is INCUBATION. 
not in my parts of the world  incubators are used by food administrators checking mcdonalds for bacteria, chicken production to keep eggs up to temps and a whole bunch more. premature born babies put in incubators = room temp? on a shelf? 
my house isnt an incubator its a house.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: spacechildo]
#21316270 - 02/23/15 07:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: spacechildo]
#21316393 - 02/23/15 08:10 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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THE_LOAF said: When will you kids learn, room temperature is INCUBATION. 
not in my parts of the world  incubators are used by food administrators checking mcdonalds for bacteria, chicken production to keep eggs up to temps and a whole bunch more. premature born babies put in incubators = room temp? on a shelf? 
my house isnt an incubator its a house.
Lolol. You all live in incubators.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: tourrat]
#21316402 - 02/23/15 08:16 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Youre being technical.
At that point anything within anything that maintains heat is incubating. When we use the word incubating in this hobby we mean external heating source meant to maintain a desired temperature. Using your definition the jars inside our house are incubated by nature, which is true in a sense but not what we're trying to convey.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: taGyo]
#21316412 - 02/23/15 08:21 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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incubate your thanksgiving turkey @ 350F for 4 hrs  dry your clothes over the wood fueled incubator.. open a window in the sleeping chambers part of your incubator at night.
is my house still an incubator during the summer if no heat elements are on?
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: spacechildo]
#21316426 - 02/23/15 08:25 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I hate it when people argue technicalities when we all understand what was being said. Just derails the thread while we whip the youngin' back in shape.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: taGyo]
#21316446 - 02/23/15 08:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was being facetious just for the record lol. I am well aware of the issues here.:-) when I ask op if he was growing on his porch I only did so to point out that unless he was growing on his porch there was no further need to incubate.....as ham has so graciously pointed out room temperature is incubation enough...I was simply pointing out that having an incubator inside your incubator ( house) is unnecessary.... and oft times detrimental. Creating condensation and favoring anaerobic activity being a few of those detriments.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: hamloaf] 1
#21316677 - 02/23/15 09:33 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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wowimflabbergasted said: You know what we mean hamloaf, why do you have to be like that? Noobs don't see incubating as putting a little space heater in the room to keep it at 75 degrees, they see it has putting heating pads and fish tank heaters in shit. You don't have to treat us like we're dumb for telling the OP not to do what he is doing. Did you give him any advice? 
Well, I am to change all that, wowimflabbergasted, and won't be discouraged by you, or anybody who tries to convince me otherwise. Good day to you.
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THE_LOAF said: You are only encouraging me to come at you all harder. Good day to you too, tagyo.
Discouraged? I just wish you would come down out of the clouds and get your head out of your ass. **a bunch of shit I typed and deleted**...whatever all mighty hamloaf.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: taGyo]
#21316869 - 02/23/15 10:19 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: cronicr]
#21316962 - 02/23/15 10:37 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's like how we say 1 quart of spawn when it's actually 3/4 a quart, or are you going to change that too ham?
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: cronicr]
#21316972 - 02/23/15 10:39 AM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: taGyo] 1
#21323147 - 02/24/15 03:05 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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taGyo said: I hate it when people argue technicalities when we all understand what was being said.
I hate it when people using the term "room temperature" when its less characters to type out an actual range. Only 1 person actually specified a lower temperature limit here, saying if your temps are not "around 70" then consider a TiT, which is still quite vague.
Nobody else gave a lower limit, I was waiting to see if anybody would, I asked for this in a previous thread and fuck me it was like getting blood from a stone.
All you get in threads like these are snide remarks about living in igloos or being a cheapskate or some sort of fucking weirdo -rather than simply accept that people in many parts of the world prefer to live in conditions that are far from optimal for growing cubes. I add additional heat as I have had very poor results trying to grow in the temperature I am most comfortable at.
This is why I would question at what point/temperature would people consider adding additional heating -this must be done before revealing your own current temperature in your "room" you are growing in. Since the problem is if you reveal the temp first the smartarse posters might save face and just say "oh that temp is fine", no matter how low it is.
Also it is not a game of how low can you go, or what is theoretically possible, its a question of what is optimal, or not getting on the verge of ridiculous. Sure there are downsides and risks to adding additional heat, but there comes a point where the downsides of the cold outweigh them.
In the most recent thread I could find with RR commenting on incubation it was a guy in a cold country who had found a relatively warm area in his house, ontop of some sort of heater which had an average temp of 73F. RR still advised him to find a warmer spot.
In other threads I too was referring to growing in a house as theoretically incubating, this is more to try and get people to think for a minute, and not think that "room temperature" is the same as saying "3/4 of a cup" or some other definite unit/range, to try and get people to state actual temps. Imagine saying "how much rice do I add", -"well you know what you would eat for dinner, a about half that". -"how much water" about 1/10th what you would drink after a run. If you know the units why keep them secret? Don't be so presumptuous about what others find comfortable.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: blackout]
#21323164 - 02/24/15 03:08 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Incubate at whatever temp you want, i do mine at 103, just cause i like to live on the edge.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: blackout]
#21323179 - 02/24/15 03:12 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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in many trades room temp is an actual temp. 20C/68F. I would consider incubating if my room was colder than 60F/15C, but I'd rather consider heating the room it self as I wouldn't be comfortable in less than 60F
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: blackout]
#21323903 - 02/24/15 05:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just leave your jars at room temperature. Cubensis wants to colonize and fruit, don't ever forget that, they will do it whether you want them to or not provided they've been given a good and sterile environment to thrive in.
Whether it's 65 degrees or 79 degrees they'll still colonize, albeit slower or faster. Just wait it out. I used an incubator my first grow, now I just leave them on a shelf.
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wowimflabbergasted said: You know what we mean hamloaf, why do you have to be like that? Noobs don't see incubating as putting a little space heater in the room to keep it at 75 degrees, they see it has putting heating pads and fish tank heaters in shit. You don't have to treat us like we're dumb for telling the OP not to do what he is doing. Did you give him any advice? 
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taGyo said: I hate it when people argue technicalities when we all understand what was being said.
Only 1 person actually specified a lower temperature limit here, saying if your temps are not "around 70" then consider a TiT
We specified temperatures. 65-79 is great colonization temps.
My house was just 65-68 all through out and I didn't use an incubator
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: taGyo]
#21327977 - 02/25/15 01:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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We specified temperatures. 65-79 is great colonization temps.
My house was just 65-68 all through out and I didn't use an incubator 
I saw other temps were mentioned. I specifically said a lower limit, meaning a temp at which point people would recommend using an incubator or some additional heat source.
So are you saying if someones room is 64.5F you would advise using an incubator or providing additional heat? This was not 100% clear to me.
At times my grow area has been an average of 15C/59F, so I use an incubator to bring it to about 25C/77F
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: blackout]
#21328014 - 02/25/15 01:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry blackout, I usually tell people 65f is the minimum you want to go without needing additional heat. I know lower than that will still work, but that's the min. for optimal results IMO.
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Re: incubation temp is a 85 [Re: blackout]
#21328020 - 02/25/15 01:11 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're right,
It's completely, like most things in this hobby, situational. I'm lucky enough that my house doesn't drop below 65f most of the winter but it can get to right about there. If it was lower I'd be using a heater to heat myself up, which would in turn be incubating my jars.
If my temps were 59 degrees not only would I be freezing but I'd have a heater to bump it up to 70f+ as well.
I would only not advise an incubator to someone in my situation, where it's not THAT cold. It's just an unnecessary expense.
Now if you're trying to grow in 55f, then incubate your jars if you want, just make sure it's controlled. Some people just leave a heater running and the temps get to some ridiculous number and favor contams. I know, I've been there and done it.
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